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Not 100% accurate. Typically if you write software for the devices you need to own the latest and greatest. For instance, I can't do any LIDAR work without the new iPad.

So?
I'm a software developer too. I can't do any work with self-driving cars because I don't own one.
The solution: I get over it and work on something else.
 
I thought removing the headphone socket from some devices was stupid when they did it... and I still do. Good luck to anyone who enjoys their Airpods though.
 
Finally got around to buying the second generation AirPods. It was a constant chore to keep them in my ear when driving. I tried the Beats over ear device and returned it as being uncomfortable and not very good sound. So I jumped on the AirPods Pro. Still have issues keeping them my ears, but the noise cancelling is wonderful. I liked the Bose Sound Sport earbuds, but they lacked Siri capability and had short battery life.
 
I never got this to work with my AirPods, neither did my fiance. For us, trying to switch was an exercise in frustration. I guess it only works well in the Apple ecosystem.

?? you are expecting apple's features to work on android devices? why do you think apple implements these software features on their devices?

makes no sense at all
 
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Most users would adjust their habits after a few times having the cables messed up though. At least the ones with the thinking ahead brain.
properly winding up the wire before putting away is a painful task.

i put on/take off my AirPods over 10 times a day. i would never do that with wired headphones because it’s just too much work.
 
?? you are expecting apple's features to work on android devices? why do you think apple implements these software features on their devices?

makes no sense at all
I haven’t owned an Android device in a long time, so no. I have an Apple through household, from the 2019 Mac Pro to the HomePod.
 
Just like you shouldn’t use a mobile phone when you want to take pictures as most dedicated cameras offer better image quality?
As long as one can hear differences in quality between different headphones they are perfectly fine for audiophile listening, aren’t they? Nobody buys dedicated audio players as an alternative anyway.
Which is why engineers need to focus on how to make wireless headphones sound better instead of how to make a 100 years old port fit on thin devices that are only going to get thinner in the future. Wireless is the future and that is where they need to improve and since Apple ditched the 3.5 port, the quality of wireless speakers definitely got better.

And about photography, this is why I would happily live with slightly lower quality photos if I can have an iPhone without a camera bump. That won't happen though.
 
Nearly 2 decades after the iPod, AirPods have taken their place in popular culture and I’d like to see them take their place in functionality as well.

Miniaturization of the technology in the iPod has gotten to a point where including a memory chip for storage would enable AirPods to function as a standalone “mp3 player”.

Have Apple Music compile a collection of a user’s top 1000 songs plus a collection of For You songs you’d like and store them on a 16GB chip built in to AirPods and updated every time you’re near your iPhone, allowing you to go for a run without your phone while still having 1,000 songs in your pocke... ears.

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Nearly 2 decades after the iPod, AirPods have taken their place in popular culture and I’d like to see them take their place in functionality as well.

Miniaturization of the technology in the iPod has gotten to a point where including a memory chip for storage would enable AirPods to function as a standalone “mp3 player”.

Have Apple Music compile a collection of a user’s top 1000 songs plus a collection of For You songs you’d like and store them on a 16GB chip built in to AirPods and updated every time you’re near your iPhone, allowing you to go for a run without your phone while still having 1,000 songs in your pocke... ears.

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I don't think there's enough room just yet.

But you can sort of get there with a Watch + AirPods combo.
 
I don’t get why they are so special compared to other headphones and earphones out there. Can someone enlighten me?

After a problem is solved, people so quickly forget how bad they were before and take the new status quo for granted.

Do you recall how bad the Bluetooth headphone experience was before? Pairing, connecting, dropped connections, digital artifacts in the audio, poor battery performance, inconvenient charging methods...

That was all resolved all at once in one product. AirPods just work, they pair effortlessly, connect automatically as soon as you put them in your ears, pause when you pull one out, resume when you put it back in, they sound great, battery lasts to a point where you don’t really think about it and charging is ingeniously tied into how you store them.

This is easy to take for granted but a short while ago, none of this worked this way. That’s what Apple typically brings to the table. They make things seem stupidly obvious in retrospect.
 
I am one of the poor creatures who have oddly-shaped earholes, in one ear, so I can't wear them for more that 5 minutes. The left on falls out. However, I hope they come up with a solution for me, in the Air Pods Pro line with noise cancelling. Tried them in the store but it didn't quite work, and I tried it with two different-sized earpieces. Still no.

Why do I like them? Well, have you tried other Bluetooth headphones? Disgraceful. You often have to erase them, then pair them on the desired iPad or iPhone or TV or whatever. Here, turn the thing on next to your device and you see a picture of the Air Pods, and you press a Pair button and it's done. Or change what sound you want. Take out one Air Pod, it stops, but you can hear it in the other ear. The sound in the first AirPods was pretty crappy. The AirPods Pro? Ten times better. And they're small.

Presently using the new Powerbeats 4. Good sound, much better than before, and they stay in my ears with the hook design. And the same easy pairing.
 
Lord, here we are again. "If you don't like every single thing about this product that I like, take your marbles and go to someone else's home!"

Also you're framed this as a false comparison. No one "wants" wires. Of course no one "wants" wires. What some of us do want are the advantages that come with the disadvantages of things that have wires. This has been explained ad nauseam, and it renders false comparisons like yours meaningless.


So much snark! People who use wired headphones may care about bitrate, or they may care about other things — again, which have been covered in this thread and you're conveniently ignoring. Also, who are you or I or anyone to tell other people how they should and shouldn't use their products? (Answer: we aren't.)

And for the record, I hate my AirPods Pro for working out. I've tried both sizes in my ears, and they don't stay in for me. I'm not the only with this problem either.
Wtf are you talking about? This WHOLE thread has been about people bitching about not having more wires! You’re not fooling anyone with that BS so let’s just shut that down right now. You want more wires? Fine. But the overwhelming majority of us have spoken, and your wish for an outdated experience will get you left behind, while the rest of us enjoy the advancement of our experience.

I’ve been following your posts in this thread and, of all the hills for you to waste your time dying on, this is sure an interesting choice. Did AirPods hurt you? Like did they run away with your significant other or something? Kidding aside, if you fall into the slim minority of people who can’t make do with the included tips, then you can get custom tips made, there are variety packs with many more sizes and shapes, you can simply choose a different brand of wireless earbuds altogether, etc. And all of those alternatives I mentioned can be bought for as little as a few dollars. That being said, I just don’t understand this thinking you all seem to have that AirPods are literally the only option for your wireless audio needs?

Anyway, the offer still stands: go get a crappy Android phone if this is so important to you 🤷‍♂️👋
 
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I feel that most Bluetooth headphones ‘just work’.
I’m not sure what type of Bluetooth headphones you’re using, but the majority of them do not just work. you have to pair, and hold a button, then when you want to move to your phone from your computer, you have to unpair it, and repair it. Then when you want to go back you have to unpair from one thing, and repair it to the other, and it’s just a huge pairing unpairing nightmare. meanwhile, AirPods just connect to all of your devices at once. Once you’re paired to your phone, all you have to do is click the airplay icon on any other device, and click it. That’s it.
"Why would you attach a wire?"

Because it sounds better, and choices are a good thing unless you're the company trying to force everyone down one specific path.
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"Why would you attach a wire?"

Because it sounds better, and choices are a good thing unless you're the company trying to force everyone down one specific path.
While I would agree with you for high-quality headphones, the differences in the headphones that come with an iPhone and AirPods is not at all. If it’s wired or Bluetooth when it comes to the Apple headphones, they sound identical.
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Let's not confuse trapping people into one type of product and then marketing the heck out of your version of it with "being right."
No, they were right. Now everyone has wireless headphones, and no phones have headphone jacks. For convenience, wireless is just better in every way. Now obviously if you’re doing some high-quality audio editing, then you should get yourself a good pair of wired headphones. But for the average person who just uses headphones to listen to MP3s and YouTube videos, wireless will always be more convenient. And convenience is more important than quality
 
Right because you never have to spend time untangling the cord on regular headphones. Guess I should have read further. Okay can you leave your phone charging in a separate room and change the song with wired headphones? Have you ever had your phone be tugged by the wires and fall because of the wires while doing something?

Can you do the dishes and change music easily with wired phones? The bluetooth range on these things is phenomenal the best they have ever made. But seriously they have great range. No corded pair of phones without Siri support have this advantage.

I leave my phone charging on an iHome playing music - it’s my house, why should I have to wear headphones?
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Using that argument might as well just use the built in speaker...don’t have to plug anything in.

True - that is much more convenient. The boost in sound quality and/or volume (and maybe privacy) makes it worth plugging it into a speaker or headphones, but I can imagine there’s people perfectly content with just the built-in speaker.
 
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When you look at the AirPods, it’s not necessarily that it’s compatible to the iPhone that Makes it popular, it’s also Apple has diversified the AirPods where there’s a ‘price point’ segment for everyone. And the quality of the AirPods has really shown there longevity even with first GENs still performing since they released in December 2016.

The simplicity of the pairing, the battery life and the ease of charging capabilities, really makes this product simplistic, but popular enough where the AirPods have an appropriate fit for the larger majority.
 
Imagine that! You strip people of their ability to use one type of product and instead force them to use another type of product.

Then you introduce a version of that second product priced at $139 and up. You market it aggressively to people who already own at least one of your products, knowing full well that many of them care a lot about the brand and its cachet. It's a good product, but with gross margins around 60%, it's absurdly profitable.

And that new product does well! I say again – imagine that!

Full disclosure: I own a pair of AirPods Pro myself.
You were forced? Lmao! What a joke. You weren’t forced to buy the products without the headphone jack or the headphones. You chose to buy these items.
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Because wired earphones can run indefinitely, don't require batteries and are 100X simpler
But but people still chose the wireles headphones despite Apple selling wired headphones and giving them away with each iPhone purchase.

I love how everyone is so delusional and so consumeristic and consumption driven that they can’t even own the fact they were not forced into anything. They chose to buy these Airpods and iPhones with lightening connectors on the headphone jack. LMAO! Own your decision and stop pretending to be a victim here.
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I feel that most Bluetooth headphones ‘just work’.
Maybe now but when AirPods initially came out they didn’t just work. I owned bluetooth headphones by all the manufacturers at the time AirPods were announced. In some cases it took me days to get these items connected and multiple tries and the sound was worse than just regular earPods.
 
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I’ve owned AirPods and they aren’t anything special.

Is it the fact that it’s Apple-branded? Are we in a post world where anything Apple releases is automatically awesome?
Honestly, the sound quality is very good, and I’d say the best at the price point the entry level AirPods are at. They stay in your ear surprisingly well for most people. The ability to use them by taps or via Siri is quite good. They are compact and can fit in pretty much any pocket, including inside jacket pockets. The battery life is very reasonable.

I bought mine because I kept losing my urBeats. I decided to try them due to the find my iPhone tracking they have via Bluetooth. I bought them at a time when I was still dubious about how you look without them, having wireless EarPods was quite new. The quality of them won me over and now it is normal to see people wearing them.
A few people have asked for my view on them and I’ve said they are surprisingly good, even for an Apple product. Those people have all bought a pair and not regretted it.
I certainly haven’t regretted buying mine.
 
Wtf are you talking about? This WHOLE thread has been about people bitching about not having more wires! You’re not fooling anyone with that BS so let’s just shut that down right now. You want more wires?

No one is bitching about having more wires. The fact that you're choosing to mischaracterize it so absurdly speaks volumes.

I’ve been following your posts in this thread and, of all the hills for you to waste your time dying on, this is sure an interesting choice. Did AirPods hurt you? Like did they run away with your significant other or something?
If you'd been watching my posts in this thread, you'd have seen right there in the very first post that I own a pair of AirPods Pro.

That being said, I just don’t understand this thinking you all seem to have that AirPods are literally the only option for your wireless audio needs?

No one has said or even implied that "AirPods are literally the only option for [our] wireless audio needs."

Well, that was easy. Next?

You were forced? Lmao! What a joke. You weren’t forced to buy the products without the headphone jack or the headphones. You chose to buy these items.
This has been explained countless in times in this thread, and the lack of reading is growing tiresome. By buying the product, yes, people are at that point "forced." No one has alleged anyone was forced to buy the whole product. The entire point is that people choose to buy the whole product after evaluating the tradeoffs. Just because one of those tradeoffs suuuuuucks doesn't mean it's insignificant.

I love how everyone is so delusional and so consumeristic and consumption driven that they can’t even own the fact they were not forced into anything. They chose to buy these Airpods and iPhones with lightening connectors on the headphone jack. LMAO! Own your decision and stop pretending to be a victim here.
Ahhh, insults. I'll leave this here for you:
 
I'm sticking with my Sony's great Bass and noise canceling at least till Apple improves the Bass in airpods
 
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