Yeah, because why would you want a recipie's instructions on a screen in the kitchen or to see the 5 day forecast in the living room or be able to scroll through those types of things? Yep, only a total moron would want that. Dude, you've obviously never used these before. SMH.Here's a scoop. Apple never intended to make a HomePod with a ridiculous screen in it as Apple would never be that stupid.
Honestly, even with the lower price, the ATV is still overpriced and a microphone should be in it and not just the remote. Kind of like the Amazon cube.I dont need it to be a home cinema personally, I’d even be fine with lower quality speaker than the hp mini, I just want the mic and siri response integrated properly into my atv![]()
This should be a pretty light R&D investment. We're talking about slapping a touch screen on a speaker - with some software to surface visual results (which Siri allegedly can do already but sucks at) but this is Apple. They'll try to charge $500 for something that is a half-assed less functional iPad that does less than the often on sale for $50 Echo Show or Google Nest with the brain damaged Siri at the helm.Infinite R&D spend isn't good either. Just ask Xerox.
All this supposed cost cutting yet customers won’t see any of it.
Apple would be a $5T company if it weren’t for these pesky expensive customers wanting stuff.
People who truly care about APPLE, as a culture, a community, should be really concerned. By my count, Apple hasn’t shipped anything innovative since the AirPods Pro, and even they’re now stagnant. The only other “innovative” tech was Apple Silicon, and even that is now on a rocky, delayed path. OS development is a literal sh it show. Going back before the AirPods, Apple hasn’t done anything “new” since the original HomePod, and that’s even a stretch. (Since competitors had been doing smart speakers much more affordably (Amazon) or more broadly (Sonos).) 5 years of garbage MacBooks, and the iMac chassis hasn’t significantly changed in 15 years… Tim Cook has been a disaster; makes money, but little else.
(Before you downvote me or start typing out a snarky post to refute me, just think on one perfect example: 40 years ago, the auto industry—led by the nascent, hungry Japanese manufacturers—learned how part interchangeability could significantly drive down costs while also significantly ramping updatability. Reusing something as simple as a great door handle design was “innovative” and drove the Japanese car revolution. Apple can’t even see fit to interchange motherboards between the Mac mini and iMac, or iPhone and iPad, in order to effectively ship yearly bumps. Ever. Even the batteries have changed year-over-year in similar devices. And Cook is supposed to be a “supply chain expert”. Uh huh. Apple has burnt $BILLIONS on re-tooling, and most of their products end up in landfills within 5 years. This isn’t a good thing. There is ZERO REASON Apple should be unable to release an entire ecosystem of “HomePod” devices at this point. With their eyes closed. But… instead… we got a re-hashed, over-priced HomePod based on a concept that nobody wanted the first time around. Their failure of creativity at scale is stunning.)
Software can be bad, without preferring someone else's software that is worse. Maybe study about Logic would help. Although it was the most hated class when I went to school. It seems nobody really understands logic today.Wait - whose OS would you rather have than Apple's on your devices?
Since this is just a rumor, I have to wonder if it's really "a HomePod with a screen" or if that's just someone's interpretation based on limited info. And then they pile on some half-baked rendering that may have zero to do with the actual thing (if it even exists).I’m just not sure why I would want a HomePod with a screen. So I could see as well as hear Siri’s sub-par responses? FaceTime sure but who wants a FaceTime camera that stays plugged into a wall outlet and you can’t move?
A HomePod depicting a FaceTime call as in this mock does not seem practical one bit for numerous reasons.
I don't think a flat HomePod would work well.Apple should bring back Jony Ive
They should just delay 2024 altogether and make a 2023S.Agreed! Apple should just take 2023 off and catch up with the delayed timing and resume operations next year in 2024 😂
I can’t believe you have down votes on this. Must be the bean counters. 😄I find this odd: cut R&D to help save costs now; ignore what revenues could come from the results of said cost cutting.
I’m not going to comment on the huge stash of cash Apple has as I don’t know their expenses or other allocations for that money. Cutting R&D, however, is nearly always bad.
Or…analysts like Gurman and Cho have absolutely no mechanism to hold them accountable for their tea leaves reading. They can go from “delayed” to “cancelled” on any product they want and because there’s no way to check their work no one can call them for it.I think this is a fake scent trail to throw off competitive research, and not a real product in the pipeline.
Of course it is...
Everything good is delayed. M3 chip and OLED iPads from Gurmans Timeline
I said it before lol, but I’ll say it again.
Why can’t something be delayed internally? If Apple planned to release it this year and can’t/won’t, then it’s still a delay even though it wasn’t announced publicly.
These rumors are oftentimes founded and aren’t pulled out of thin air. Not every single delay article or product rumor is fake…
So in your opinion Apple can't multitask, like add emoji and fix bugs because the same person is doing both?We already saw some with them removing the SIM slot in the US.
I *hope* but kind of doubt that they will scale back on junk like this and focus on making their core products better. They are clearly too distracted lately.
Innovation as shown here in MR is a sliding personal scale. One persons innovation is another persons meh and one persons meh is another persons innovation.Apple would be a $5T company if it weren’t for these pesky expensive customers wanting stuff.
People who truly care about APPLE, as a culture, a community, should be really concerned. By my count, Apple hasn’t shipped anything innovative since the AirPods Pro, and even they’re now stagnant. The only other “innovative” tech was Apple Silicon, and even that is now on a rocky, delayed path. OS development is a literal sh it show. Going back before the AirPods, Apple hasn’t done anything “new” since the original HomePod, and that’s even a stretch. (Since competitors had been doing smart speakers much more affordably (Amazon) or more broadly (Sonos).) 5 years of garbage MacBooks, and the iMac chassis hasn’t significantly changed in 15 years… Tim Cook has been a disaster; makes money, but little else.
(Before you downvote me or start typing out a snarky post to refute me, just think on one perfect example: 40 years ago, the auto industry—led by the nascent, hungry Japanese manufacturers—learned how part interchangeability could significantly drive down costs while also significantly ramping updatability. Reusing something as simple as a great door handle design was “innovative” and drove the Japanese car revolution. Apple can’t even see fit to interchange motherboards between the Mac mini and iMac, or iPhone and iPad, in order to effectively ship yearly bumps. Ever. Even the batteries have changed year-over-year in similar devices. And Cook is supposed to be a “supply chain expert”. Uh huh. Apple has burnt $BILLIONS on re-tooling, and most of their products end up in landfills within 5 years. This isn’t a good thing. There is ZERO REASON Apple should be unable to release an entire ecosystem of “HomePod” devices at this point. With their eyes closed. But… instead… we got a re-hashed, over-priced HomePod based on a concept that nobody wanted the first time around. Their failure of creativity at scale is stunning.)
exactly. there never was a TV - not one that was going to be mass produced and anyways.Instead we saw Apple TV services that are growing all the time
MacRumors.com
Honestly, even with the lower price, the ATV is still overpriced and a microphone should be in it and not just the remote. Kind of like the Amazon cube.