Apple's iAds Slowly Begin to Appear, Led by Nissan Leaf
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Yes don't spoil all the fun that comes from watching commercials for everyone. Hello? The ads 'ARE' the spoiler. You should buy two iPads, one to play Angry Birds on (lol) and the other to watch commercials on. You SJ groupies need some sunshine.
txr0ckabilly
macrumors 6502
I've downloaded a few apps that are supposed to have iAds and I can't even see a banner. I just wanted to see how well they work. I can see the blank spot in the app where I'm guessing an iAd would be placed, but there isn't even a blank box visible.
somebody posted a link to an article earlier in this thread that said something about syncing with itunes and that loads the adds on your phone according to location, age, selection of apps, etc. so i don't think downloading the app on your phone over the air is going to produce the adds.
that way your not downloading an app plus an iAd. makes sense, i don't know how true it is though.
here's the quote:
organerito
macrumors 6502
Is that you, mister Jobs? Ads with emotion
, as you said it, I mean as Steve Jobs did.Some people need to get laid or something.
Lone Deranger
macrumors 68000
To all those saying iAds will only feature in non-paid apps I have this to say:
Let's see if a few years from now if the majority of paid apps will still be ad free. I'm quite confident they won't be. Little by little morals and values will erode, developers will realize they can make more by both charging for an app and include iAds. A few bold developers will start this trend, then others will follow and ads will become more and more frequent to the point where they are the norm.
As other, longer established forms of media indicate, paying for your media does not guarantee you ad-free content by any means.
Get a cable subscription and you're still bombarded every 12 minutes by 4-5 minutes worth of commercials. Buy a magazine and half of the pages are advertisements. Go to the movies and you have to endure 10 minutes of commercials before the film you came to see actually starts.
This whole ad business is one of Apple's worst ideas. Getting an ad thrown in your face when all you want to do is access the features of an app, cacks a big disruptive turd on the smooth user experience that Apple has so carefully crafted over the years. It's a blight on iOS as far as I'm concerned.
If I want to know about a certain product, I'll look around for it. I don't want to be confronted by it through no choice of my own, no matter how targeted to my likes the iAd system can deliver it.
Let's see if a few years from now if the majority of paid apps will still be ad free. I'm quite confident they won't be. Little by little morals and values will erode, developers will realize they can make more by both charging for an app and include iAds. A few bold developers will start this trend, then others will follow and ads will become more and more frequent to the point where they are the norm.
As other, longer established forms of media indicate, paying for your media does not guarantee you ad-free content by any means.
Get a cable subscription and you're still bombarded every 12 minutes by 4-5 minutes worth of commercials. Buy a magazine and half of the pages are advertisements. Go to the movies and you have to endure 10 minutes of commercials before the film you came to see actually starts.
This whole ad business is one of Apple's worst ideas. Getting an ad thrown in your face when all you want to do is access the features of an app, cacks a big disruptive turd on the smooth user experience that Apple has so carefully crafted over the years. It's a blight on iOS as far as I'm concerned.
If I want to know about a certain product, I'll look around for it. I don't want to be confronted by it through no choice of my own, no matter how targeted to my likes the iAd system can deliver it.
txr0ckabilly
macrumors 6502
Master Chief
macrumors 6502a
Don't underestimate this...
Free applications might go away – in the near future – for people who opt-out of this iAd network, but also enables developers to reduce their prices for paid applications, or cash in quicker.
Free applications might go away – in the near future – for people who opt-out of this iAd network, but also enables developers to reduce their prices for paid applications, or cash in quicker.
TheJuggla17
macrumors newbie
I downloaded the free application specifically to see the iAd. I must say I hate ads but they way they are being implemented on iOS devices I'm really impressed. Not only do they run really smooth but you can close them!
Very impressive Apple.
Very impressive Apple.
Porco
macrumors 68040
My problem with iAds is that Apple does things like this stylishly and well. Strange problem huh? Well I don't want developers to be attracted to an ad-based model. If they had to offer a paid-for ad-free version then great, but I don't want Apple making such a great ad system that developers decide to forgo paid-for apps altogether.
I would rather that the ads sucked, they didn't work, and developers just gave away feature-limited demo versions for free and let people decide if they think a paid version is worth it for them without shown ads.
If ads are good, and consumers like them, we get more ads. I would rather a low number of poor ads (because they are not so effective) than loads of pretty and effective ads that end up in almost every free app - that is what I really don't want, and what I think Apple risks happening, by being too good at what they do!
I would also just rather Apple weren't spending time and money on ads as a business. I have no doubt they will make a lot of money from it, I don't want that. I want Apple to make money from making great hardware and software, not ways to increase the incentive to make more ads in the world.
I want developers to make money off their apps, I'd just rather they do so by making great apps people want to pay for, or will buy based on the quality of previous apps (free or limited / 'lite' demos or otherwise) instead of making money by running shiny pretty ads.
I would rather that the ads sucked, they didn't work, and developers just gave away feature-limited demo versions for free and let people decide if they think a paid version is worth it for them without shown ads.
If ads are good, and consumers like them, we get more ads. I would rather a low number of poor ads (because they are not so effective) than loads of pretty and effective ads that end up in almost every free app - that is what I really don't want, and what I think Apple risks happening, by being too good at what they do!
I would also just rather Apple weren't spending time and money on ads as a business. I have no doubt they will make a lot of money from it, I don't want that. I want Apple to make money from making great hardware and software, not ways to increase the incentive to make more ads in the world.
I want developers to make money off their apps, I'd just rather they do so by making great apps people want to pay for, or will buy based on the quality of previous apps (free or limited / 'lite' demos or otherwise) instead of making money by running shiny pretty ads.
CalebF
macrumors regular
At least pornographers are getting the last laugh. They're ditching FLASH for HTML5!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/porn-industry-ditches-fla_n_629313.html
So much to us having "freedom from porn", as Steve calls it.
Hopefully there's a way around iAds. I might have to give these pronographers a call. They know their way around Steve's rules... I mean, "freedoms". I guess we now have "freedom from NOT viewing ads" now.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/30/porn-industry-ditches-fla_n_629313.html
So much to us having "freedom from porn", as Steve calls it.
Hopefully there's a way around iAds. I might have to give these pronographers a call. They know their way around Steve's rules... I mean, "freedoms". I guess we now have "freedom from NOT viewing ads" now.
rish
macrumors 6502
iAds
The thing about people is that if something is entertaining as well attempting engage them in a product then its a win win scenario. There's surely nothing wrong with that is there. I would understand your dismissiveness if say a retinal scan that was done and ads were fired at you for products based on your purchasing profile. Thats something I'd be very concerned about.
The fact that Apple not only has some of you accepting this...but excited about it and welcoming it with open arms...might just be the most goddamn pathetic thing I've seen in an age. Talk about Stockholm Syndrome.
These are ADS! Why are you people happy...about ADS?! Just because Jobs says these are swell, Apple got you acting like trained circus seals, just mindlessly clapping away.
The thing about people is that if something is entertaining as well attempting engage them in a product then its a win win scenario. There's surely nothing wrong with that is there. I would understand your dismissiveness if say a retinal scan that was done and ads were fired at you for products based on your purchasing profile. Thats something I'd be very concerned about.
BC2009
macrumors 68020
You like free apps? So do I. That is how this benefits you. Software developers don't exist to produce free apps for the masses for fun. They need to put food on their tables too. The reason network television is free is because of advertising -- same goes for radio.
The annoying thing about mobile ads is that on the rare occasions you see an ad you are interested in that you don't want to click on it to jump to the browser and leave your app. Now you can stay right within your app and view that ad if you want.
If you don't want ads, then there is usually a paid version of the same app with the paid version being ad free (like Tiptitude has two versions).
So providing an easy ways for developers to make money on ads is a great thing because it means more free apps without developers having to setup with Google or Admob to do their advertising and monetize their apps. It decreases the barriers for developers which means more free apps in the app store.
I don't think you will see many paid apps doing iAd (at least not in the paid version). What _is_ annoying is apps that you pay for that still give you advertising. Kinda like paying for Cable or Satellite TV and still having to watch commercials on ESPN and USA and TNT channels. But then again, even with that, I'm sure Cable would cost more if those cable channels did not subsidize with advertising, so I guess some apps may be doing the same thing. It just feels wrong to buy something and have to put up with ads.
ThomasJL
macrumors 68020
iAds: Proof that fanboys will happily eat any crap from Apple.
The high enthusiasm shown for iAds really speaks volumes on how sheepish Apple fanboys are. Why would anyone in their right mind want advertising on any device? Doesn't it take away from the speed of usage to close those advertisements?
Advertisements are a nuisance, and that is why most premium services and devices are advertisement-free. But fanboys actually believe that advertisements are a selling point!
Let me guess: Apple wasn't satisfied with the absurd premium they charge (the highest in the industry), as well as the kickbacks from monthly carrier charges, so they decided to included advertising. Gee, thanks, $teve.
The high enthusiasm shown for iAds really speaks volumes on how sheepish Apple fanboys are. Why would anyone in their right mind want advertising on any device? Doesn't it take away from the speed of usage to close those advertisements?
Advertisements are a nuisance, and that is why most premium services and devices are advertisement-free. But fanboys actually believe that advertisements are a selling point!
Let me guess: Apple wasn't satisfied with the absurd premium they charge (the highest in the industry), as well as the kickbacks from monthly carrier charges, so they decided to included advertising. Gee, thanks, $teve.
No, and no. People are excited because these ads are cool. It's like being excited about a new funny Geico caveman commercial or the E-Trade commercials. If you like a Geico caveman commercial or an E-Trade commercial are you a sheep?
It only takes away from the speed usage to close the advertisement if you open them in the first place.
Little Giant
macrumors newbie
Rotten foul b-rats
It is truly disgusting to see just how many rotten foul b-rats are posting here. If you gave them golden plates with rose peddles, they would bitch moan and crap on it.
Pathetic whiners, return your iPhones, I am glad I am not Steve Jobs and have to see my work being wasted on these pathetic of space and human trash that uses Apple products.
It is truly disgusting to see just how many rotten foul b-rats are posting here. If you gave them golden plates with rose peddles, they would bitch moan and crap on it.
Pathetic whiners, return your iPhones, I am glad I am not Steve Jobs and have to see my work being wasted on these pathetic of space and human trash that uses Apple products.
BC2009
macrumors 68020
Educate yourself. The ad starts as a standard banner that you can easily ignore. You can tap it to get the full page action and UNLIKE other ads, if you tapped it by accident and don't want to see it, you just hit that little X at the top-left and poof it is gone back to its default "banner" state.
There is nothing bad about this -- its just a better way to do mobile ads for the developers and the users.
Now if only software developers would be slaves to the masses and just produce good software for free. Where is Richard Stallman when you need him?
liquidsuns
macrumors 6502
Lets see; highly interactive, well-designed ads that don't kick you out of your app VS static hyperlink ads that drop you from you app....both are activated by clicking on banners....hmmmm.....yep, iAd is a bad thing....
Humans are getting stupider by the moment.
Humans are getting stupider by the moment.
organerito
macrumors 6502
It is truly disgusting to see just how many rotten foul b-rats are posting here. If you gave them golden plates with rose peddles, they would bitch moan and crap on it.
Pathetic whiners, return your iPhones, I am glad I am not Steve Jobs and have to see my work being wasted on these pathetic of space and human trash that uses Apple products.
Someone needs a little love
I could care less for the iAds. perhaps, I will check one one day.
MacKeeperFanMod
macrumors regular
Maybe worth doing is not so intrusive. I understand that this is part of their income: but such advertising on television, we have the right to miss, but here we are obliged to view the advertising. So what is good?
Solid Raven
macrumors member
Not trying to troll here or something but I really wonder what all the fuss is about. I mean, they're still ads, right? Who cares...? Am I missing something?
I can see how devs might appreciate this though, but everything else seems more like some far-fetched fanboyism. No offense though, I'm kind of a mac guy myself, but still...
I can see how devs might appreciate this though, but everything else seems more like some far-fetched fanboyism. No offense though, I'm kind of a mac guy myself, but still...
stevensr123
macrumors 6502
Ads are cool? I think you just proved his point.
