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Not even necessarily high-end cameras -- just any camera with a lens capable of a physically larger aperture. Buy the cheapest used Canon Rebel or whatever dSLR you can find, open the lens up to f1.8 or whatever it's capable of, and you've already got something with way more flexibility and light-gathering ability than the best iPhone camera. The iPhone is going to win over a low-end/outdated dSLR in image processing and maybe even sensor pixel count -- but it can't compete on optics because the lens is just too small.

iPhones have incredible cameras for their size, but comparisons to dSLRs and good mirrorless cameras are totally apples-to-oranges (pun intended, sorry).

You are aware the aperture on the iPhone is f1.8, which is pretty dang good. You aren't going to get that in any kit lens, you're going to have to spend some money on a new lens. Granted you can pick up f1.8 50mm lenses for pretty dang cheap, but you know the old adage you get what you pay for.
 
The thing about true portrait photography is that while the background is blurred, the foreground/subject is supposed to be tack sharp. An iPhone just isn't...
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You are aware the aperture on the iPhone is f1.8, which is pretty dang good. You aren't going to get that in any kit lens, you're going to have to spend some money on a new lens. Granted you can pick up f1.8 50mm lenses for pretty dang cheap, but you know the old adage you get what you pay for.

You know nothing about photography. F/1.8 on an iphone over a tiny tiny sensor doesn't mean anything. It's more like f/16 on a crop sensor, if anything.
 
Those cameras have the same focal distance, not like the iPhone 7 effect.

The results are what counts, the tricks Huawei used have been tried over and over again in the compact camera segment, and always leave a lot to be desired.
Have you even read what I wrote? Please read it again.

So... you're one of those types, that look at the iPhone and say "it's just another smartphone", the iPod and say "it's just another MP3 player", the iPad "it's just another TabletPC", the TouchID "it's just another fingerprint sensor".

Enough said.

Don't know why you're on a forum about Apple.
I don't uncritically glorify everything Apple does. Some things that company does are great, and many things just okay. This one is by far no revolution. It's pretty a pretty old hat.
 
That's actually pretty neat. Mimicking posh cameras with effects. Granted it's not for me, I still prefer the fun of an SLR camera but I imagine it'll be good enough for most.
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Given that real bokeh is effected by the design of the lens, especially the blades on the aperture diaphragm, I wonder if Apple will develop of signature 'look' or allow you to select different bokehs?
If Apple don't I'm sure there'll be a photo app to support that.
 
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you want to learn more about manual optics and the bokeh effect, check out Reeve's website:

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Oh, I understand how to do it. I've actually got an old film camera that will do it optically. I just hate the way it looks.
 
There you go - get a smartphone that "mimic" a high-end DSLR, eat Mcdonalds and pack your bag with crayons as art supplies and you set. Next stop, mimic ville - home of the lowest common denominator.

Or just have some self respect and get an A99 II, eat at Bouley and learn how to paint with Oils :rolleyes:

Now that we done with all this iOS/mobile garbage can we get back to MACs/OSX? Not sure how many more "Pro" labeled crap that "mimic" something else we need to live past before getting an actual creative tool from Apple.

Probably you should discard the Mac and OSX, since it is used to mimic the typewriter, the Moviola, optical film printing tables, reel-to-reel music recording studios - amongst other old technologies.

Looking at pictures of Bouley on the web - it looks awful, a cheap disney-esque representation of a European restaurant. Please don't eat there, please move to France and eat only at Thoumieux or L'Astrance.
Furthermore Your digital Sony camera is just mimicking a "real 35mm SLR", and I expect many of us didn't realize that "learning to paint in oils" was the official definition of "having self respect".

How far back do you want to go to escape the mimicry and lowest common denominator ?
You could request Apple to design a pro app for your specific needs. It would 3D print some tools from the stone age, and create daily schedules for you to go about the worthy business of hunting & gathering - an honest day's work before all this modern stuff happened and polluted everything.
 
I must apologize to Samsung and other non-iPhone users that are reading this article and commenting:

- I'm so sorry that last years A9 processor was already faster than your devices.
- I'm so sorry that Apple had to slap you in the face by making the A10 even faster, while consuming less power and adding in a superb image processor to boot.
- I'm so sorry that this image processor coupled with two cameras is giving the iPhone capabilities that all the others can't achieve (even other dual camera phones). Like real-time previews of the portrait mode (while others assemble their shots on the phone and after a delay give you the actual "adjusted" picture).
- I'm so sorry that Apple added DCI-P3 ability to the iPhone and gave it the most accurate display in the world (something Android simply cannot do because they don't support color management) which allows you to see how good those pictures you just took actually look.
- I'm so sorry that in durability and water tests the iPhone 7 has come out on top over phones like the S7 or Note 7.
- I'm so sorry your platform is riddled with malware and you have to wait to get security updates (if you even get them).
- I'm so sorry that your 1 year old $800 phone has to wait months to get Nougat (if you get it at all).

So I can understand where you're coming from. This is just so much to take in and you're having trouble processing all of it, so you have to come and dump on any article about yet another feature the latest iPhone has.
 
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Is there a way to turn it off what if i dont want the blur background??????? please tell me theres a way to shut it off
Yes, don't use the portrait mode that they mention. You can just tap the 1X button that will then use the telephoto lens (shows 2X on the screen).
 
I'd quite like to try this, but I'm not getting a bloody iPhad (I ized the word Phablet). I wish they wouldn't correlate high end with biggest :(
 
Re bokeh effect: I'm not sure what is new and what isn't but I remember them saying in the presentation that the live preview is a first.
 
You are aware the aperture on the iPhone is f1.8, which is pretty dang good. You aren't going to get that in any kit lens, you're going to have to spend some money on a new lens. Granted you can pick up f1.8 50mm lenses for pretty dang cheap, but you know the old adage you get what you pay for.
Yes its an f1.8 lens which will gather the same amount of light as a full frame f1.8 prime lens. But when you are comparing the lens for DOF the iPhone 2nd camera has an equivalent aperture of around f16
 
I can't wait to give this a try.

Actually I can wait, because I have to. I don't have an iPhone 7+ yet. I didn't try to pre-order (other priorities that night), so I'll be waiting until the stock in the stores is reliable and I can walk in and get the one I want.

I am looking forward to it though.

Do tell us more about your schedules in more excruciating detail.
 
You are aware the aperture on the iPhone is f1.8, which is pretty dang good. You aren't going to get that in any kit lens, you're going to have to spend some money on a new lens. Granted you can pick up f1.8 50mm lenses for pretty dang cheap, but you know the old adage you get what you pay for.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Sensor on iphone 7 has crop factor of over 7, so f1.8 is actually 13ish compared to FF camera. Also the 28mm focal length is actually about 4mm.

That said, the nifty fifty is pretty good for its price.
 
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Very neat, but I already felt like the mode switcher was getting crowded on my 6+ with:

  1. Time-Lapse
  2. Slo-Mo
  3. Video
  4. Photo
  5. Square
  6. Pano

I think Apple should figure out another UI for swapping between all these modes. Maybe bring back the straight forward toggle between photo and video from iOS 3, and then make Time-Lapse and Slo-Mo be sub-modes for Video, and have Square, Pano, and Portrait be sub-modes for Photo?

They could definitely get rid of Square and swap in Portrait at the same spot. The whole reason square was even created was because of Instagram, but now Instagram will allow any aspect ratio and isn't exclusively square photos, and plus you can always crop to a square rather easily after the fact.
 
Very neat, but I already felt like the mode switcher was getting crowded on my 6+ with:

  1. Time-Lapse
  2. Slo-Mo
  3. Video
  4. Photo
  5. Square
  6. Pano

I think Apple should figure out another UI for swapping between all these modes. Maybe bring back the straight forward toggle between photo and video from iOS 3, and then make Time-Lapse and Slo-Mo be sub-modes for Video, and have Square, Pano, and Portrait be sub-modes for Photo?

Or, in the settings, they should allow us to customize the amount of options we want to have visible on the camera app. For example, I only use photo, video and rarely slo-mo, so 3 of them are just pointless to me and make me swipe unnecessary.

Same thing for the Control Centre, I only use the wifi and bluetooth switch. The other 3 are just sitting there, wasting space. And now theres also Night Shift, which I also don't use and it's taking up even more space.

I still find it strange Apple hasn't opened up these customizable features to let us have more control to what we want and don't want to see on our phones.
 
Please update the article with the following information:

Update: On additional inquiry, Apple clarified for me that it is in fact not gaussian effect but instead a custom disc blur. This is a blur with a more defined, circular shape than gaussian blur. So if you’re one of the few that was hankering to know exactly what kind of blur was applied here, now you know.​
 
Yes its an f1.8 lens which will gather the same amount of light as a full frame f1.8 prime lens. But when you are comparing the lens for DOF the iPhone 2nd camera has an equivalent aperture of around f16

If you are comparing the same focal length equivalent, they do not gather same amount of light. The f stop is the opening size relative to the focal length of the lens. So the actual opening on iphone would be around 2.22 mm.. whereas the opening for 28mm f1.8 on a FF body would be 23.33mm.
 
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Portrait mode is nice and all but what about...

D A R K M O D E? Amirite?

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I'm installing this now.
 
If you are comparing the same focal length equivalent, they do not gather same amount of light. The f stop is the opening size relative to the focal length of the lens. So the actual opening on iphone would be around 2.22 mm.. whereas the opening for 28mm f1.8 on a FF body would be 23.33mm.
An f1.8 FF lens or the F1.8 iPhone lens gather the same amount of light relative to there sensor size. the centre 2.22 mm of the FF lens would technically receive the same amount of light as the iPhones 2.22mm. Obviously the FF sensor is much bigger and over its area would receive more TOTAL light.
 
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They gather the same amount of light relative to there sensor size. the centre 2.22 mm of the FF lens would technically receive the same amount of light as the iPhones 2.22mm. Obviously the FF sensor is much bigger and over its area would receive more total light.

Yes, that's why I said if you are comparing FF equivalent, which Apple markets (and all other cellphone companies for that matter) 4mm focal length as 28mm.
 
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