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Apple's iPad Battery Replacement Program Forgoes New Battery, Replaces iPad

Btom said:
Replace the unit, when the battery is dead?? Whatever happen th the "green" Apple?

Another reason NOT to buy iPad. It is simply disgusting.

Tom B.
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You trolls aren't even trying anymore. :(

Refurb.

Further, iPads are arsenic free, mercury-free, and PVC/BFR-free. And the aluminum and glass are highly recyclable.

Any other BS complaints you can dream up?

markcres said:
The fact that you get a replacement unit as part of the battery replacement is irrelevant - it will still be an identical unit - all you have gained is a new battery.

To me, the outrageous part of all this is the $99 fee. The battery itself probably costs $10 (to Apple)... and they pay some poor Asian minimum wage to fit it in about a minute (with the correct jig and tools) as part of their refurb... so basically they harvest you for about $78 clear profit to get a new battery. Why not design the iPad so we can replace the battery ourselves - and charge us a fair price for the battery like $40 or so.?

People are so excited.. "ooh I get a new iPad for only $99".. but you are handing over your old iPad that you paid hundreds of dollars for.

Apple never tire of exploiting its customers and finding new ways to define greed !!
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:rolleyes:

Your iPad battery will last around 5 years under normal use, genius, and thereafter it will still hold 80% charge for a while. That's 1000 recharge cycles, plus battery life at 80% charge thereafter. Same battery lifespan you find in a current Macbook Pro. By the time you hit the forums to complain for real you'll have a new device. And besides, Apple is not known to have any problems with their non-removable batteries.
 
*LTD* said:
Further, iPads are arsenic free, mercury-free, and PVC/BFR-free. And the aluminum and glass are highly recyclable.

Any other BS complaints you can dream up?
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So because it's recyclable it's OK to needlessly throw away what will be hundreds of thousands of iPads' worth of materials? And if the plan is to sell them as refurbs, why not just replace the battery? A refurb means new boxes, packaging, accessories, books/manuals, etc. whereas an iPad with its battery replaced can go back to its owner in a padded cardboard box.

Any other BS rebuttals you can dream up?
 
Well, thats because it aint an Mac, it runs iPhone/iPod OS so.... Apple threats the iPad like an iPod/iPhone and swaps the device. That way they also make sure the battery ends up well.
 
6-0 Prolene said:
So because it's recyclable it's OK to needlessly throw away what will be hundreds of thousands of iPads' worth of materials?
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Yes. That's why it's called RECYCLING.

Your iPad battery will last around 5 years under normal use, and thereafter it will still hold 80% charge for a while. That's 1000 recharge cycles, plus battery life at 80% charge thereafter (for a while.) Same battery lifespan you find in a current Macbook Pro. By the time you hit the forums to complain for real you'll have a new device. And besides, Apple is not known to have any problems with their non-removable batteries.

Same way Apple treats iPhones and iPods.
 
Eidorian said:
At least not yet on the iPad.
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Yup. Nothing wrong with Apple's non-removable batteries for years now, but NOW it'll change. All of a sudden, Apple expects to make a boatload of money off replacements of prematurely-failed iPads and experience Dell-like levels of customer satisfaction. :rolleyes:
 
*LTD* said:
Yup. Nothing wrong with Apple's non-removable batteries for years now, but NOW it'll change. All of a sudden, Apple expects to make a boatload of money off replacements of prematurely-failed iPads and experience Dell-like levels of customer satisfaction. :rolleyes:
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I don't believe Apple is a charity or that replacing out of warranty batteries makes them one either.

Otherwise stranger things have happened with batteries and Apple isn't exempt from it.
 
6-0 Prolene said:
So because it's recyclable it's OK to needlessly throw away what will be hundreds of thousands of iPads' worth of materials? And if the plan is to sell them as refurbs, why not just replace the battery? A refurb means new boxes, packaging, accessories, books/manuals, etc. whereas an iPad with its battery replaced can go back to its owner in a padded cardboard box.

Any other BS rebuttals you can dream up?
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Not sure how it works with other devices but, my refurbished iPhone just came in a simple and plain box (totally recyclable box) with no manuals or accessories. It wasn't the shiny nice looking new boxes for sure.

And, like others said, that's better than most of us throwing away an old battery in the trash. Again, the refurb box didn't seem any less green than the box/packaging I suppose you'd be getting for a replacement battery.

To me, it seems like this system has been working just fine (#1 in customer satisfaction/service for years) for Apple and for most of the users.
 
*LTD* said:
Yes. That's why it's called RECYCLING.
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Recycling doesnt need energy, fuel etc? Or you you think Jobs as Harry Potter making everything with magic? The whole thing with non replacable batteries is that they elliminate battery competion and cheaper prices. Too simple.
 
thisday said:
Recycling doesnt need energy, fuel etc? Or you you think Jobs as Harry Potter making everything with magic? The whole thing with non replacable batteries is that they elliminate battery competion and cheaper prices. Too simple.
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So recycling is actually bad?
 
thisday said:
Recycling doesnt need energy, fuel etc? Or you you think Jobs as Harry Potter making everything with magic? The whole thing with non replacable batteries is that they elliminate battery competion and cheaper prices. Too simple.
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So it's more about customers being cheap than Apple being greedy...

If they charged $30 for a new battery, the same people would be complaining it should be $5. It's amazing to me how people nitpick about anything just to be able to have a complaint.
 
*LTD* said:
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Your iPad battery will last around 5 years under normal use, genius, and thereafter it will still hold 80% charge for a while. That's 1000 recharge cycles, plus battery life at 80% charge thereafter. Same battery lifespan you find in a current Macbook Pro. By the time you hit the forums to complain for real you'll have a new device. And besides, Apple is not known to have any problems with their non-removable batteries.
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If this [five years claim] was to be true, then why don't they give us 3 years of warranty [on the battery]? Because it won't last for 3 years?
 
MMX said:
So recycling is actually bad?
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No, it's trolls trying to find *something* - anything, to hold against Apple because they didn't get a big honking tablet with a full version of OS X loaded onto it. Or a camera.
 
Master Chief said:
If this [five years claim] was to be true, then why don't they give us 3 years of warranty [on the battery]? Because it won't last for 3 years?
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Macbooks come with a 1-year warranty. Virtually all Apple products are covered by a 1-year Limited Warranty.

Additionally, no one warranties batteries for three years!
 
Eidorian said:
It depends on what you recycle.
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No it doesn't. That's the reality. We have wasted to much for to long and it's not an option know, it's the only way to go. I'm glad Apple is making steps this direction. Unibody clean design makes sense. Easy to repair, easy to recycle, feels better while holding and is sturdier.
 
fkntotalkaos said:
You guys kill me... I would love to know who voted negative on this. I have had 3 MBP out of warranty, and Apple has replaced the power supply in each of these free of charge, fed ex, over night, and did not even take a credit card number. Most of you would complain over anything. I had a Dell once, crap was under warranty and they didn't even fix it.
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I have to agree with the sentiment here--as a soon-to-be switcher who found MacForums due to research on MBPs, the stories that I've read about customer service simply stagger me.

Having done more research than is healthy at this point (starting with the now near-mythical refresh of the MBP), I am considering pairing an iMac with an iPad to get both power and incidental portability, since 95% of my work is done at my home office. I have other portables if I need a more fully-functioning laptop. So for me, an iPad battery replacement policy that just requires me to clean off my iPad and nets me a brand new-seeming unit is no great drama. One less thing to worry about!
 
MMX said:
Who gives such warranties?
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Who introduced a revolutionary battery with smart load logic? Apple did. Long before anyone else did. Just like the iPod back in 2001 and the aluminum casing for the Mac Books. And the list goes on and on...

So Apple should have waited for other companies to be first?
 
Master Chief said:
Who introduced a revolutionary battery with smart load logic? Apple did. Long before anyone else did. Just like the iPod back in 2001 and the aluminum casing for the Mac Books. And the list goes on and on...

So Apple should have waited for other companies to be first?
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WTH are you talking about??
 
thisday said:
Recycling doesnt need energy, fuel etc? Or you you think Jobs as Harry Potter making everything with magic? The whole thing with non replacable batteries is that they elliminate battery competion and cheaper prices. Too simple.
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I don't get it.

So now there's a problem with recycling cuz it uses energy?? Are we starting a debate over whether a refurb system is more green than a non-refurb system? Although, I still think Apple's method is more green, it's probably safer to say that no one really knows. So, any comments on Apple not being green cuz of refurbs, really don't have much basis. At least we know there are areas that they are trying, which is good enough for the average joe.

Apple made a decision to make the batteries non-replaceable with a reason. Whether it be more profit on Apple's end, to make a seamless device, more space efficient battery size, design philosophy or whatever. Clearly, there are advantages to that decision, and many who buy Apple products do so cuz said advantages happen to meet their needs.

Heck, I can complain that making a device with a user replaceable battery require extra parts, extra design thoughts/mechanisms to make it user friendly to open/close, and perhaps screws, which all require additional energy.
 
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