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I could see apple bring back Touch ID with the high end phones as a feature.

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Firetruck red sounds hardcorely awesome, but isnt that almost product red?
 
Where do you live? On Mars? A few weeks? This is going on for a year? Common sense and care for everyone around you made you where a mask? You do not need a mandate for that? Nobody mandates that you have to wear a parachute before you step off a plane, you just do! Shooting virus everywhere without care or mind in public is the same then shooting bullets in a supermarket, even if you do not hit anyone, you will be put down and rightly so.

Australia the risk here is tiny, if there was a mandate I will wear one. If the government that had guided us through this so we’ll say it isn’t essential I won’t.
 
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Apple can get rid of the notch without putting any optical-capacitive or ultrasonic sensor under the screen. It's like the first generation of smartphones without a front-facing camera.

Apple can produce a notchless and notch version of the iPhone X-12 which will end the controversy about harming the screen design for over 4 years.

It's a WIN-WIN for everyone.
How do you know for a fact apple can get rid of the notch without creating bigger chins or foreheads that would be even more controversial?
 
I truly look forward to seeing how well your post ages in a few months

I'm sure you'll remind me and I'll be celebrating right there with you but don't gloat until it comes true or we'll both look like butt holes together when someone looks back on this board in a few months.

The internet is a weird place. You and I each have product desires but bicker over who is right and wrong for some future satisfaction for a product we both want. There has been mountains of pundits hedging against TouchID that I find it incredibly irrational to think Apple would take a feature that is no longer 'premium' as it's only in the base iPad, base iPhone and soon won't be on the premium MacBook Pro thanks to miniaturization of FaceID making its way to apple's premium laptops and you and I will still be here on a forum waiting for TouchID to happen.

well, you will because I've emotionally moved on from it ever happening but will gladly celebrate with you when it does.

May the victor get Touch ID along with the loser who also gets touchID and we both win :) let's just be apple customers and not fight with each other. We're all human, I don't get any satisfaction from you being wrong.
 
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Face ID is a hassle right now and perhaps finger print should be a silent frictionless fallback....ala it automatically shows finger print on the screen in the event Face ID can’t open the phone immediately....
 
It’ll unlock, for me, if I’m wearing a mask incorrectly and not covering my nose which wholly defeats the purpose of said mask. I just switched to using a 4 digit pin but it would be sweet if this years iPhone had both Touch ID and face id
I wear mine correctly at all times when I am out, I never have it under my nose.
 
In regards to the PWM flicker, I reckon at the very worst case, you won't have to wait too much longer for a phone with MiniLED. Possibly next year on the Pro Max??? So whatever you've got now, if you can hold out until next year I'd say that's your best bet.
I have a 2016 SE. The problem isn't the display type, but the manner that Apple implements the screen dimming. Your computer screen probably flashes LEDs on and off over 1000 times per second to simulate dimming. A desktop monitor might do 10,000 times per second, or even use DC dimming which doesn't flash the LEDs at all. The iPhone 12 mini has the lowest flicker rate of around 272 times per second, which causes eye strain for me. That's not a feature of an OLED or IPS display, it's just the manner which Apple chooses to implement it. While I hope that I can get a 13 mini with a screen that doesn't irritate my eyes, miniLED by itself isn't a fix. :\
 
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I have a 2016 SE. The problem isn't the display type, but the manner that Apple implements the screen dimming. Your computer screen probably flashes LEDs on and off over 1000 times per second to simulate dimming. A desktop monitor might do 10,000 times per second, or even use DC dimming which doesn't flash the LEDs at all. The iPhone 12 mini has the lowest flicker rate of around 272 times per second, which causes eye strain for me. That's not a feature of an OLED or IPS display, it's just the manner which Apple chooses to implement it. While I hope that I can get a 13 mini with a screen that doesn't irritate my eyes, miniLED by itself isn't a fix. :\
Thanks for the info. Just it seemed the flicker issue arose with OLED.
Sorry to hear that's an issue for you. I think you could be in trouble then, especially considering there won't be a 13 mini! haha. 😆
 
hassle? Not really, pretty simple actually
It’s a hassle when you wake up in the morning in bed,when wearing certain sunglasses,certain hats,masks and at certain angles..that’s why.
touch ID is definitely easier to use.
 
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TouchID worked well like that because there was physical feedback as to where the home button was. The convenience of Apple's under screen will be affected by how large of a hit target TouchID-2 has. I think we've already seen an example of under screen Touch-ID with what is on the MacBook keyboards; it doesn't seem to have capacitive/physical aspect to its functionality so the main difference is that its keyboard screen doesn't display anything.
I guess it will depends on how much surface area the under screen reader scans. If it does something like the bottom third, functionally it will be the same.
 
So a company like Apple doesn't have the reflexes to make last minute changes? As if they haven't done last minute changes , never, in the past? Interesting.
Clearly, you don't understand how long it takes to test, implement and scale. Apple has changed things in the past, but pretty sure, that they didn't look into their magic 8 ball and see that a pandemic would hit. I mean they had a hard enough time with their supply chain getting parts at the beginning of the pandemic. They can't just scrap what they had and go from FaceID to a much more error-prone (and more expensive) under-screen FP sensor in the course of a couple months....
 
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