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I could see apple bring back Touch ID with the high end phones as a feature.

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Only thing I'd change or add would be Jet Black to the colour list, never warmed up to the Space Grey on the later iPhones. I had Space Grey on my 5S and that was great as it was a finish to the actual metal now it's just grey paint or what ever they use behind the glass.
 
Will they bring Touch ID back before or after they bring back headphone jacks? 😅
If Apple had any courage, they would bring back the headphone jack to the Pro models with a high end DAC chip to drive your headphones. This would be a genuine ‘Pro’ feature in my opinion. The Pro Max model in particular would have enough room to accommodate said jack. Of course it will never happen as then no one would buy the Airpods pro/max.
 
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If Apple had any courage, they would bring back the headphone jack to the Pro models with a high end DAC chip to drive your headphones. This would be a genuine ‘Pro’ feature in my opinion. The Pro Max model in particular would have enough room to accommodate said jack. Of course it will never happen as then no one would buy the Airpods pro/max.

Especially now that LG known for their phones with built-in DAC is bowing out of the phone market so we need someone to step up.
 
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Stop trying to make TouchID happen

(Btw, I'd love it return but it's not going to)
Why not? They’re still making new hardware with TouchID right now, the new iPad Air has it in the power button, the newest SE still uses it, and that’s not even getting into the reader on every laptop now. Why wouldnt they bring it back to the normal phone if they have a good solution that lets them keep the large display, either adopting the iPad Air’s new reader ot an under-screen reader as mentioned here? Especially given COV19 and mask use neutering FaceID
 
You can wait another 5 years for all of that.
You think there are still phones in 5 years? I envision something like universal communication devices like in the expanse with 6G worldwide coverage or one level down something like Apple glasses or contact lenses. If there are still phones, I will still use my 12mini. Only way to upgrade to the next mini would be touch ID or a retina scan because masks are here to stay.
The mini is just great!
 
Good opportunity for Apple to address customer needs in the time of a pandemic by giving us both Touch ID as well as Face ID
Wearing a mask has defeated the function of Face ID and entering a passcode is annoying
Adding Touch ID is not a frill or bell and whistle it’s a necessity
Lastly the technology is available we see it in Android phones so basically there’s no excuse for Apple not doing this
 
Kind of odd as I always lamented the death of the fp sensor on iPhones, but since switching to a Fold 2 I really prefer the fp sensor on the power button. It feels much quicker one handed and much more secure so I don't feel like I'm going to drop it. On the Fold 2 it's also pretty much instantaneous. Also means less fingerprints and junk on my phone.
 
Let’s face it this is coming not just due to the pandemic. This has been in development for years. I also don’t get the whole mask thing I mean where are people going where they need to use their phone when they have their mask on? Shops? Walking in the street?
Unfortunately, a lot of people are highly addicted to their phone (and social media). They can't seem to do anything without pulling out their phone.
 
Let’s face it this is coming not just due to the pandemic. This has been in development for years. I also don’t get the whole mask thing I mean where are people going where they need to use their phone when they have their mask on? Shops? Walking in the street?

I don’t think it has been coming for years, rumours aren’t always true.
I’m not sure I’ve only had to wear a mask for a couple of weeks thankfully. It is a bit of a pain in the supermarket when my phone keeps locking and I have to type the code in to to see the shopping list.
 
i'm in the minority, but since i got the iPhone X, i'll been using passcode instead of face id. really hope for touch id to come back in some way
 
Mini with Touch ID and without top notch = my
As soon as Touch is available on the mini, I am ready to upgrade

No Touch, no upgrade until my SE2020 dies

Same here, actually I still on the 5S, I'm looking for brand new 1st gen SE until the Mini gets touch id.
 
“alongside Face ID as a secondary biometric option”
Once implemented Touch ID will be the primary biometric option again for most of users.
There are only few situations where Face ID can surpass Touch ID in convenience and speed.
Apple has all degrees in marketing and introduced Face ID with his habitual fanfare with the iPhone X more as a technical breakthrough than the real most practical biometric option.
 
Really looking forward to 2021 MBP, iPhone, Watch lineup. Been saving my Apple Store gift card for 2021.
 
No way APPLE IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT OPTICAL-CAPACITIVE TOUCHID SENSOR on iPhone 13 or iPhone 20.

Every year, you will be buying a new iPhone with notch screen from 2017 until 2037.

You can thank Tim Cook for such an abysmal leadership prior to launching iPhone X at the 10th anniversary of iPhone.

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I don’t think it has been coming for years, rumours aren’t always true.
I’m not sure I’ve only had to wear a mask for a couple of weeks thankfully. It is a bit of a pain in the supermarket when my phone keeps locking and I have to type the code in to to see the shopping list.
Where do you live? On Mars? A few weeks? This is going on for a year? Common sense and care for everyone around you made you where a mask? You do not need a mandate for that? Nobody mandates that you have to wear a parachute before you step off a plane, you just do! Shooting virus everywhere without care or mind in public is the same then shooting bullets in a supermarket, even if you do not hit anyone, you will be put down and rightly so.
 
I think the problem is Apple basically designed iPhones to be put in a case, they expect everything except for the screen and cameras to be completely covered. A fingerprint sensor on the side button would be a major inconvenience to making cases.
I would rephrase that slightly. Apple doesn't design iPhones such that they should (or have to) be put into a case but such that they can easily be put into a case (and most cases don't give direct access to the buttons by way of having 'button extenders'). Of course, until the latest iPad Air, iPad design was equally well suited for cases as iPhone design was. So I am not sure what special affordances Apple has made in its iPhone design until now to accommodate cases beyond not adding a fingerprint sensor to the power button or the back.

But then many Android phones have fingerprint sensors either on the side or the back and the case manufacturers just account for that by not covering those areas (something of course complicated by the large number of differently shaped Android phones).
 
No way APPLE IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT OPTICAL-CAPACITIVE TOUCHID SENSOR on iPhone 13 or iPhone 20.

Every year, you will be buying a new iPhone with notch screen from 2017 until 2037.

You can thank Tim Cook for such an abysmal leadership prior to launching iPhone X at the 10th anniversary of iPhone.
Nah, we can thank Tim Cook for making it possible to easily identify people that fall into the category of "a person who pays such attention to detail that it becomes an obsession and may be an annoyance to others" by their over-the-top complaints about the notch.

Of course, there are other indicators to identify this group, like the usage of all caps and bold text.
 
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Face ID sucks when wearing a mask. It would be much easier to have both features. I think Apple shot itself on the foot since the pandemic made Face ID useless.
That depends on whether your occupation allows you to largely work from home or not. If you can work from home, FaceID is very far from useless. And even if you cannot work from home, not all your waking hours will be taken up by work (and a public transport commute plus grocery shopping).
 
I just momentarily hold my breath and lower my mask to validate. Not a big deal for me.
I do the same. It is just difficult to enforce a mandate to hold your breath while you pull down your mask (though even if people don't hold their breath, if the mask removal is limited to situations where you keep a good distance to others, the risk increase is minimal).
 
For those with 4 or 6 PINS on their iPhone, I am curious if they realize that their PIN number is also their APPLE ID Password. Anyone who sees them typing their PIN and gets access to their phone - or stealing it - can easily change their Apple ID password.
Settings -> User Name -> Password and Security -> Change Password.

Apple sells customer experience and unfortunately on planet earth of 2020-2021 and probably 2022 face ID isn't good customer experience. Everything some Apple fans describe (like typing pins etc) contradicts the reason of why some of us choose Apple devices. I don't even want to think about some professions where we are required to wear a mask, or Asian countries where a mask was a thing anyway.

And one final thing, some of us already have perfectly fine working watches.. It's a bit annoying reading here on the forum that the solution is to buy more stuff, like an Apple watch in order to use Apple Pay 🤦‍♂️
 
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For those with 4 or 6 PINS on their iPhone, I am curious if they realize that their PIN number is also their APPLE ID Password. Anyone who sees them typing their PIN and gets access to their phone - or stealing it - can easily change their Apple ID password.
Settings -> User Name -> Password and Security -> Change Password.

Apple sells customer experience and unfortunately on planet earth of 2020-2021 and probably 2022 face ID isn't good customer experience. Everything some Apple fans describe (like typing pins etc) contradicts the reason of why some of us choose Apple devices. I don't even want to think about some professions where we are required to wear a mask, or Asian countries where a mask was a thing anyway.
I don't know how one would end up with the iPhone lock code being the same as the AppleID password. My AppleID password predates the existence of iPhones by several years by virtue of starting out as my iTunes Store account password (and yes, I have changed it over the years to a more complex one). When I got my first iPhone, the passcode was something to choose during setup, not something inherited from the AppleID account. Maybe if one mistook the prompt to select an iPhone passcode as a prompt to enter one's AppleID password, one could end up with both being the same.

And I don't know what you are suggesting Apple should have done. When it became clear that masks were here to stay for a while (maybe April 2020), the iPhone 12 design was locked-in already.
 
Why not? They’re still making new hardware with TouchID right now, the new iPad Air has it in the power button, the newest SE still uses it, and that’s not even getting into the reader on every laptop now. Why wouldnt they bring it back to the normal phone if they have a good solution that lets them keep the large display, either adopting the iPad Air’s new reader ot an under-screen reader as mentioned here? Especially given COV19 and mask use neutering FaceID

This has been covered a lot in the past 4 years and while touchID seems to never want to die, FaceID is the future, Apple has stuck to their guns on this with the 10-class phones not having it for 4 years. I just don't think they'll bring it back.

but I have to be clear, I"d like to see it back, there are some people who miss it.
 
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