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guess I am not the only one:
Bigger Battery and better camera instead of thinner!!!!!!!!!

Get your own battery pack phone case if you do care that much about it, but, please please please don't deprive off our option of having a device COMPATIBLY fit in pockets.
 
How am I making the point unclear? Your point was clear cut,

The clear cut point was that volume had three dimensions, and a larger screen allowed for thinner devices with an increased volume available for the battery. How did you miss it? 2-3 others quoted that part, clearly they saw the point of the post.

I asked a clear cut question for you to provide the source

You knew if wasn't true, and thus it was an exaggeration, yet rhetorically asked the question anyway. I responded in kind.

if you didn't really mean your point?

Point is above.

Why write it down exactly like you did? If you only meant it was a major factor, why not say "it was a major reason". But instead you said it was the " whole" reason.

First wording that came to mind, and the shortest. I do consider it a primary motivating factor, not just a "major" one, but again I can't pull a companies internal records to look for the proof you want. I did think about the possibility of confusion afterwards, but felt that any reasonable person could recognize the exaggeration and artistic license used.

I don't buy 2 examples of early LTE phones with small screens as evidence that the only reason Android phones got bigger was due to accommodate bigger batteries, I'm not saying it wasn't a factor.

I wasn't using them as evidence of that claim. I was using them as evidence of my primary point regarding battery volume and backing up the statement that the first LTE phones had poor battery life. Proof of motivating factors behind screen sizes is evidence that's impossible to obtain. See above.

Many Android phones were already larger than iPhone at the time and were still getting larger, without LTE chips.

Is this where I ask you for your sources? (I'm kidding) A large phone was in the low 4" range at the time. Now a "normal" phone is high 4's and a large one is 5.7" to 6". The two I included were selected because they were the first two LTE enabled phones in North America, and don't have time to go beyond that. If you want to do an exhaustive inventory of screen sizes, release dates, and cellular technologies, knock yourself out. You'll probably find a spike in screen sizes (with some outliers of course) where I'm suggesting there is though.

Since this ridiculousness has continued on for so long, I'll admit "whole" was a poor word choice. I do wonder if saying "a major factor" would have changed anything though. You could still ask for a source on that, as I suspect you would on any statement that could be considered a knock against Android.

Once again, my point was volume, and the jump in Android screen sizes was an illustrative example. Not something intended for deep scrutiny.
 
Here's the point:_______

Is it blank? I guess you MISSED IT.

Is it the same point that had them make the iMac even thinner and now nearly impossible to work on? Because I missed that one too :(
 

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Is this where I ask you for your sources? (I'm kidding) A large phone was in the low 4" range at the time. Now a "normal" phone is high 4's and a large one is 5.7" to 6". The two I included were selected because they were the first two LTE enabled phones in North America, and don't have time to go beyond that. If you want to do an exhaustive inventory of screen sizes, release dates, and cellular technologies, knock yourself out. You'll probably find a spike in screen sizes (with some outliers of course) where I'm

Since this ridiculousness has continued on for so long, I'll admit "whole" was a poor word choice. I do wonder if saying "a major factor" would have changed anything though. You could still ask for a source on that, as I suspect you would on any statement that could be considered a knock against Android.

I don't think Android phones could have jumped right from the early 3.x and low 4 inch models right up to 5 inches. Before 2011 android screen weren't 720p yet, so 5 inch screens would have looked horrendous, so in 2010 screens generally hung around 4.3. Combined with making such jumps is shocking to the public, you saw the public ridiculing the 5.3 inch Galaxy note got when it launched in late 11, now phones like the G2 are 5.2 and are happily owned by the general public and not even considered "phablet". With bezels being as big as they were many people dug their heels when phones were 4.7ish like the S3, nowadays companies have managed to fit a 5 inch display into an almost same size frame. Changes like this needed to be gradual I think.

Even large screen phones managed to have poor battery life, even without LTE, it was entirely handset dependent, the Galaxy Nexus version didn't have LTE and had an appalling battery life,, until Verizon finally coerced Google into putting LTE in much later.

Phones were shifting into more media consuming orientated devices, and bigger screens suite these functions better generally. Im still not saying it wasn't a factor, but I think a big combination of all these features pushed Android towards bigger screens. If it was just the LTE chips, phone sizes would have stopped getting bigger once the power efficient chips hit the market, but they arent, android phones continue to increase in size.

I couldn't tell you were exaggerating, I've seen people try and say it was the only reason before on Mac Rumours and were deadly serious in their belief.
 
My sons iPod touch 5th gen had battery issues. They can't replace the battery because of the thinness so you have to buy another iPod entirely if out of warranty or applecare.
 
My sons iPod touch 5th gen had battery issues. They can't replace the battery because of the thinness so you have to buy another iPod entirely if out of warranty or applecare.

That has been true for a while now.. thin or not so thin..
 
My iPhone 4S battery is starting to show its age. I really hope the new iPhone(s?) arrive in June and not September. I'm ready to upgrade now.
Not only the battery, I'v already done the hairdryer thing twice to revive the WiFi. Looks like I am going to have to have it repaired as I cannot last until the Autumn. The 4S hasn't been Apple's finest moment. It's quite worrying as I intend to buy the iPhone6 un-locked form Apple and it has to last more than 18 months.
 
Not only the battery, I'v already done the hairdryer thing twice to revive the WiFi. Looks like I am going to have to have it repaired as I cannot last until the Autumn. The 4S hasn't been Apple's finest moment. It's quite worrying as I intend to buy the iPhone6 un-locked form Apple and it has to last more than 18 months.

with that thin battery, it wont last not even 18 hours :D
 
Bring it, I may even rethink the idea of buying an iPad Mini, I can get away with a larger screen iPhone 6. Less scrolling and better battery life is just what I am looking for...
 
I would like my next iphone to be as thick and solid as my 4s. The form factor is perfect just the speed is not great. I am not interested in thinner at all.

4s with new processor and better battery life. Am I alone? I think not. Personally cannot stand the 5/5s form.

i loved my 3.5 inch iPhone 4S, i didnt want a bigger one.


but once you use the 5S, you its very hard to go back. your brain and eyes get so used to the extra real estate, that no matter what your preference (i loved the 3.5 inch) you feel claustrophobic.
 
Yes it did, and I really hope the iPhone 6 keeps the ambient light sensor because I find it's functionality indispensable. If there is no ALS in the new iPhone, I will rather get a discounted 5S. Seriously.

I wouldn't call the ALS indispensable, but then your use varies from mine. Now, if the proximity sensor disappeared, that would be a problem. I doubt that would be the case, but hard to tell as iPod Touch never had one.
 
with that thin battery, it wont last not even 18 hours :D

Don't forget that Apple improved battery life on the iPad Air while decreasing battery capacity and physical size...

Expect the same with the iPhone 6.

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Held an iPod touch for comparison reason after reading rumours like these, I'm not sure I could live with the thinness and overall design

It'll be a bit wider and taller.. which might help.

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and even ridiculously less battery life!

i'm sorry.. stop making it thinner and give up a ****ing battery that will last a day.

Don't forget that Apple improved battery life on the iPad Air while decreasing battery capacity and physical size...

Expect the same with the iPhone 6.
 
I feel I am a major minority,

But my iPhone 5S more than enough battery life for me.

And I for one very look forward to a thinner device.

I know I will be hated for this comment, oh well.


Also Apple likes making devices thinner because thin sells. When you pick up a thin device at a store it is attractive, but the passive consumer doesn't even consider the phones battery life told after they have bought it.


When I first watched this video about the case I thought, since this case is the same thickness as the iPod touch, and has the same volume buttons... why didn't they just assume this case is for a next gen iPod touch? or this case is fake and the current iPod touch was used to model it, just making the w x L longer.

All things considered, I don't see apple further updating the iPod touch, at least no major update

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