Apple's iPhone 6 Could Be as Thin as Current iPod Touch

[cambox]

I really couldn't care less! I think we need a new player in the game and I propose this little fella! The new and improved PiPhone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eaiNsFhtI8

 

[Dr McKay]

If this rule was actually followed, 90% of the posts would on Macrumors would be removed! (Including this one)

It does get followed when people use it.

 

[MacrumoursUser]

I always prefered design of an iPod touch to that of an iPhone. Always. I only started considering buying an iPhone when iPhone 4 came out.

 

[Datalinks]

I just hope they release an iPhone around the size of iPhone 3 or 5 with a slightly bigger screen but more or less the same dimensions. These giga-phones need a bag to carry them around...they won't fit in pockets...pointless

 

[Xiroteus]

These giga-phones need a bag to carry them around...they won't fit in pockets...pointless

Comfortably? Cargo pants or bags.

 

[lewismayell]

Held an iPod touch for comparison reason after reading rumours like these, I'm not sure I could live with the thinness and overall design

 

[the future]

Interesting. Didn't the current iPod Touch lose the ambient light sensor because it was too thin? It's not a problem as I always turn that feature off, but I wonder if that's something Apple has gotten around.

Yes it did, and I really hope the iPhone 6 keeps the ambient light sensor because I find it's functionality indispensable. If there is no ALS in the new iPhone, I will rather get a discounted 5S. Seriously.

 

[jonnysods]

I'm sure that with a larger size they can spread the battery out and make it thin.

I"m getting excited about the camera improvements. And I'm curious what iOS8 will bring, as well as if they will update OSX. Anyone else think it's weird when you use Messages on the Mac?

It's so iOS6...

 

[seveej]

I don't mind as long as the battery life is good!

I wonder. It's safe to assume the IC-board will be roughly as big as in the 5S, So the question is: If the form factor grows, but the phone becomes thinner, shouldn't that leave roughly the same amount of space for the battery?

RGDS,

 

[thekeyring]

It's weird how there are a ton of comments that say 'don't make it thinner, out in a bigger battery'. This would be design being put second to hardware requirements, and would not be a good thing.

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I'm sure that with a larger size they can spread the battery out and make it thin.

I"m getting excited about the camera improvements. And I'm curious what iOS8 will bring, as well as if they will update OSX. Anyone else think it's weird when you use Messages on the Mac?

It's so iOS6...

I hope they sort out syncing. Currently experiencing a bug that means I can't resume a covo on my mac that I've had on my iPhone.

 

[Meandmunch]

You can't make a sexy twirling product ad in the Apple style about battery length. Thinner will always look sexier on camera.

 

[nia820]

IPhone 5 is already too thin. I really hope apple doesn't compromise the battery life for the sake of thinness.

 

[pmz]

Why can't the iPhone 6 have better battery life because of the larger screen size? The iPhone 5s and the iPad Air have about the same thickness (actually, the Air is thinner by 0.1mm)

But, the iPad Air has significantly better battery life (although it does have a distinct advantage by not having a cell radio).

What if Apple has done the unthinkable by making it thinner AND increasing battery life? Just a thought.

Thats not unthinkable at all. With more volume to work with, the battery has more space for overall size.

I think you would find that accounting for the reduction in depth, and adding increase height and width...the overall battery size and therefor capacity will increase.

Keep in mind however, that this capacity increase may be just enough to offset the increase power requirement from a larger 4.7" display.

Also keep in mind, it will be powered by the new A8, which may all by itself consume far less power than the A7, and translate into further battery improvements.

In summary, the iPhone 6 will undoubtedly have equal or greater battery performance than the 5s.

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How much does thickness have to do with how far your thumb can reach across the screen? We're not talking about something thick to begin with. Shave off 1 mm, will that allow your thumb to reach the extra screen area on a 4.7" screen?

You're right that it will not aid much in this particular factor at all...the screen is growing and your thumb is not.

It will however aid in holding a device larger than a 5s with one hand, as the thinner it is the easier it is for your hand or any hand to wrap around it.

Again, see my points about holding with one hand vs. using with one hand.

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Your argument discounts the two important factors: perspective and human anatomy. True enough, numbers are numbers. But without perspective they're just numbers.

Perspective: Grab a ruler and look at what a 1mm actually is. What you're viewing is 0.14mm wider than a credit card. It's approx. the width of a piece of angel hair pasta. It's ~1/2 the width of the head of a pin. Look at the edge of a penny. That's 1.55mm. That's not enough to affect grip. I'm sorry, it's not.

Human anatomy: The hand can conform around 7mm just as easily as it conforms around 6mm or 10.4mm. I specifically used 10.4mm because that's the thickness of the Moto X. It's actually one of the thicker phones out there and not difficult to hold.

Bolded from your comment: What you wrote is nothing but opinion. None of it is a fact, implied or otherwise.

I'm sorry but you're throwing opinion in where numbers are all that matters.

A 6 mm object is easier to wrap your hand around than a 7.5 mm object.

How much easier is the subjective part.

 

[Macmoney]

And reason why this just isn't the NEW iPod case.....I'll wait

 

[jonnysods]

It's weird how there are a ton of comments that say 'don't make it thinner, out in a bigger battery'. This would be design being put second to hardware requirements, and would not be a good thing.

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I hope they sort out syncing. Currently experiencing a bug that means I can't resume a covo on my mac that I've had on my iPhone.

Like in iMessage? I think that's common, I have to wait about 30 minutes for things to 'kick in'

 

[576316]

Wow. The iPhone 6 sounds like it is gonna be HOT!

 

[paradox00]

You made a claim. Mac Rumours rules state that any claim bust be backed up with sources when asked, or it will get removed.

You literally said "the whole reason" was because of bigger batteries, you didn't phrase it sarcastically, exaggeratingly, jokingly. You stated it as though it were a fact, you can't just say "dont take people so literally" when I asked for a source.

Well, I did. Sorry it bothers you, but you simply misread my intentions. I believe it was the primary reason. The first LTE phones had terrible battery life, then screen sizes increased and the battery life issue was solved. It's not something that can be proven without access to internal company documents, which would require a court order. However, critical thinking is a permissible activity.

I can edit my original post if you'd like. It doesn't really change the point of the post though.

Original post edited.

Edit: I do find it funny that you responding to me saying "don't take people so literally" with "you literally said". You read too much into a single word, and missed the point of my post. I personally thought it was obvious that every phone didn't change sizes for any single reason, and the exaggeration was equally obvious, thus the use of artistic license was permissible. I still think that actually.

 

[itpromike]

Comfortably? Cargo pants or bags.

Seems to fit just fine in slim fit dress slacks size 32 (both Moto X and Nexus 5; 4.7 and 5" respectively)... soooo, not real sure what kind of pants you are referring to... Under Armor or tights?

 

[Dr McKay]

Well, I did. Sorry it bothers you, but you simply misread my intentions. I believe it was the primary reason. The first LTE phones had terrible battery life, then screen sizes increased and the battery life issue was solved. It's not something that can be proven without access to internal company documents, which would require a court order. However, critical thinking is a permissible activity.

I can edit my original post if you'd like. It doesn't really change the point of the post though.

Original post edited.

Edit: I do find it funny that you responding to me saying "don't take people so literally" with "you literally said". You read too much into a single word, and missed the point of my post. I personally thought it was obvious that every phone didn't change sizes for any single reason, and the exaggeration was equally obvious, thus the use of artistic license was permissible. I still think that actually.

It doesn't bother me, I just enjoy calling people out who post opinions as fact. And if I'm wrong and you provide a source to prove its true, then I learn too.

If youd said " I think" or "a big reason" I wouldn't have said a thing, I don't think there's a "too literally" way of taking that statement, there's no wiggle room, you stated "the whole" reason. There's no other way to read that.

To me it comes across as backpedaling after being caught out.

 

[thekeyring]

Like in iMessage? I think that's common, I have to wait about 30 minutes for things to 'kick in'

I rarely have Messages open on my Mac. Maybe I'm being too impatient but I expect to be able to open the App, wait a moment for it to refresh, then send a message.

Messages I do send on my Mac don't appear on my iPhone, making jumping between them nearly impossible.

Other than that and Photo Stream's slowness, iCloud works like a charm

 

[Born Again]

Less volume = Less material = More Profit. ****** U.

I never thought of that

 

[Twixt]

Didn't quite understand your first sentence but the second I understood fully! I too, am more than happy with the battery life on my 5s, that's why I am all for a thinner device with the same battery life.

You guys must be light users then.
Even my wife who is far from a power user ends up with dead battery at some point around 5-7pm...
This is just way too small autonomy

 

[paradox00]

It doesn't bother me, I just enjoy calling people out who post opinions as fact. And if I'm wrong and you provide a source to prove its true, then I learn too.

If youd said " I think" or "a big reason" I wouldn't have said a thing, I don't think there's a "too literally" way of taking that statement, there's no wiggle room, you stated "the whole" reason. There's no other way to read that.

To me it comes across as backpedaling after being caught out.

To me, calling out a minor detail that doesn't change the point of the post comes across as petty. Just compare the size of the battery of Samsung's first LTE phone in North America, the Galaxy Indulge (3.5" screen, 1500 mAh battery, 3h talk time) to the Galaxy S5 (5.1" screen 2800 mAh battery, 21h talk time) Obviously there have been numerous improvements between the two (including battery tech), but the increase in screen size plays a major factor in allowing the phone to have a battery with nearly twice the capacity.

Not convinced? Just read this review on the 4.3" HTC Thunderbolt, the second LTE phone in North America. The early LTE phones got poor battery life. This didn't really improve until they got bigger (closer to 5" screens) or thicker, or in the case of something like the RAZR Maxx, both (but got really good battery life). Searching through the complete history of smartphones is a tiresome exercise, but you want to do it, you'll see that my primary point is pretty damn applicable.

I don't mind calling people out on relatively minor details when everything they said was nonsense, but when it isn't, all you end up doing is obfuscating a valid point. I could have been more polite in responding, and simply acknowledged that "whole reason" wasn't technically true ("major reason" would be more appropriate), without the rest of what I said. However, I tend to respond in kind to the comments I receive. Petty comment gets petty remark.

 

[Dr McKay]

To me, calling out a minor detail that doesn't change the point of the post comes across as petty. Just compare the size of the battery of Samsung's first LTE phone in North America, the Galaxy Indulge (3.5" screen, 1500 mAh battery, 3h talk time) to the Galaxy S5 (5.1" screen 2800 mAh battery, 21h talk time) Obviously there have been numerous improvements between the two (including battery tech), but the increase in screen size plays a major factor in allowing the phone to have a battery with nearly twice the capacity.

Not convinced? Just read this review on the 4.3" HTC Thunderbolt, the second LTE phone in North America. The early LTE phones got poor battery life. This didn't really improve until they got bigger (closer to 5" screens) or thicker, or in the case of something like the RAZR Maxx, both (but got really good battery life). Searching through the complete history of smartphones is a tiresome exercise, but you want to do it, you'll see that my primary point is pretty damn applicable.

I don't mind calling people out on relatively minor details when everything they said was nonsense, but when it isn't, all you end up doing is obfuscating a valid point. I could have been more polite in responding, and simply acknowledged that "whole reason" wasn't technically true ("major reason" would be more appropriate), without the rest of what I said. However, I tend to respond in kind to the comments I receive. Petty comment gets petty remark.

How am I making the point unclear? Your point was clear cut, I asked a clear cut question for you to provide the source, if you didn't really mean your point? Why write it down exactly like you did? If you only meant it was a major factor, why not say "it was a major reason". But instead you said it was the " whole" reason.

I don't buy 2 examples of early LTE phones with small screens as evidence that the only reason Android phones got bigger was due to accommodate bigger batteries, I'm not saying it wasn't a factor. Many Android phones were already larger than iPhone at the time and were still getting larger, without LTE chips.

 

[Mattsasa]

Comfortably? Cargo pants or bags.

you quoted me... but I did not say what is in the quote??