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Apple's iPhone AI Talks With Google and OpenAI Still Ongoing
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Racial slurs have no business being in any review, no matter how you rationalize it. Your "sensible logical argument" was most likely a use-mention fallacy which detracts from the credibilty of your review, thus its worth. I agree with Apple on removing your review 100%.
I'm old and have watched 2001: A Space Odyssey too many times. I don't trust AI.
I will use continue to use DDG or Google (old search engine version).
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Piece of crap isn't a racial slur when referring to app. Neither is your misunderstanding of my post, for that matter.
Because they've had their heads in the sand. I don't think there's any other explanation. Look no further than the Vision Pro. Everyone else has been working on software and AI for years. Years! Meanwhile, Apple spent all this time and effort into a product category whose ship sailed 5-10 years ago. IMO, it's textbook sunk cost fallacy. It's not the the Vision Pro in and of itself that's a problem, it's the fact that the Vision Pro came at the cost of basically everything else. Apple lives in a bubble there in Cupertino and they're finding that out, finally.
Sighhhh........ You realize that POC means piece of crap, right? Is your head always in "prejudice radar" mode?
Ai destroyed Google search's credibility, so it's hard to say who is ahead here
Apple has been doing some AI for several years mostly smaller scale integrated into applications. They have talked about expanding that significantly in iOS 18. Most of that is already on device processing and they will probably try to do most of that process on device in 18.
These reports sound like Apple may also offer a ChatGPT-style AI for some purposes initially using LLM-style AI from a partner. That will certainly require server-based processing to do things like generate images from prompts and write your term paper.
It's not clear yet, what the strategy will be for the interface for this or for the glue that brings those things together. They may inject an LLM-style AI into Siri to make it intelligent enough to be the starting point of a lot of these features. That would bring a better understanding of the intent of requests and would give Siri more flexibility in finding applications and OS features to fulfill those requests. The other question will be how much of that AI will be Apples and whether they will need to use a partner for those kinds of requests.
These are still early days in the AI business so being "behind" doesn't really mean much. This is like when the web was new and people started to build web browsers. The bigger companies didn't always have one ready so they built on other browser tech to create their own. That is why Apple used the KHTML engine to build out the first version of Safari. There were a lot of organizations that were first in the web browser space but that was no guarantee that they would continue to be leaders in the race.
Yarp. It's not a racial slur at all. I mistaken it for the other acronym.
Oh.😶 I thought you meant People of... *sigh* My union rep is going to be mad I'm being the village idiot for free. Man, my hang up with the early iterations of AI chat has me hallucinating stuff.
I usually use POS.
That's an oversimplification. They aren't just working on one strategy. It's smart to investigate multiple paths forward to find the best one. It's possible any partnership with Google could be supplementary to their own, or a stop-gap measure.
It’s a shame that Apple didn’t buy the right company or find the right people to keep up with their competitors when it comes to AI. Now, they’re forced to go to their main competitor to ask for a handout or whatever you want to call it. It’s either that or fall further behind I guess.
"Partnering with Google", does not mean using Google's AI directly. THere is a lot Google has to offer. They have a huge server farm and their model can be used as a starting point, it can be customized and there is still the entire user-facing front end tha Apple would do themselves. It is like "Partnering with Honda" to make a car. You could still do much of the design work and specify the parts and how the car would look and then Honda builds it but you sell and service it. The most expensive part is building out the factory, so if someone else has extra factory space, maybe it is best to rent the space.
Apple is in ongoing discussions with Google and OpenAI to use their generative large-language models as the backbone of new ...
Same here with AI, the training of the base model is the expensive part. It can cost a billion dollars. and take a long time. You can skip that because it is not what you users will directly interact with. So you save much money and time.
Exactly this.
Look at how far behind Siri is - and she was the first Virtual Assistant. Generative AI is an even bigger beast and isn't going to work with onboard processing - those models are huge and vast - with a decade or more invested in their models.
Just use Google of ChaptGPT and call it a day - and while you're at it, just allow native Google Assistant in an iPhone.
You think the people who have been at it over a decade are far from good enough, and you thought Apple could conjure what out of their 0 minutes of investment in the space?? They still haven't taught Siri how to use commas correctly in a sentence.
Except without any of the useful information when you get an answer.
But technically, Siri uses whatever you have set as your default search engine which is Google for most people - but for others Bing or Duck Duck Go. Unlike Google Assistant, she doesn't tell you 💩.
Have you been using X the past two weeks? Hilarious examples of Google's AI. I'm too lazy to go find some now as my priority at this point is my meditation, but search X and you'll find them. Many of them.
DUDE... POC is "PIECE OF CRAP" What is wrong with you that you would assume person of color????? For real. It's an APP!!!
Not really. Apple isn’t doing much here. I still expect wwdc to be more about useless camera upgrades.
Any thought about if Apple can adapt Google’s AI to run locally on Apple chips with neural engines? Is it possible? Would it perform well? It would be awesome to have an AI assistant that runs locally.
Ok, dude. I pointed you in the right direction but you do you.
Mentioning X isn’t documenting your claim. It’s like shouting “do your research!” Meaningless.
So again, since you can’t back up your claim I’ll go ahead and ignore it.
Incompetent leadership. They have been caught off guard in many areas.
The walls are closing in on Tim Cook.
They leaned way too hard into car and VR. Which were the hot new technologies of 10 years ago and they still barely shipped anything there.
Which just raises more questions.
In a lot of ways they've even fallen behind on the iPhone in general. Why in the year 2024 can I not put an icon on the screen and just have it stay where I want it? Why can't I schedule a text message to be sent later?
WTF are they doing over there besides defending their App Store moat?