This is the main reason I think Samsung rushed out the Fold. Samsung has seen a serious deterioration in its marketshare, and it's in a real fight with the big Chinese handset makers. I believe the S10 release was a lackluster one (please explain what makes it better than the S9 or even the S8), and they hoped the Fold would somehow mask this fact. Samsung doesn't really offer anything at this point that really differentiates it like from companies like Huawei in the way that iOS does for Apple. In the long run, Apple may be in trouble, but right now the company really in trouble is Samsung. They may go the way of LG.
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Apple's iPhone Sales in China Down an Estimated 30% in Q1 2019, Huawei Continues to Dominate
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This is the main reason I think Samsung rushed out the Fold. Samsung has seen a serious deterioration in its marketshare, and it's in a real fight with the big Chinese handset makers. I believe the S10 release was a lackluster one (please explain what makes it better than the S9 or even the S8), and they hoped the Fold would somehow mask this fact. Samsung doesn't really offer anything at this point that really differentiates it like from companies like Huawei in the way that iOS does for Apple. In the long run, Apple may be in trouble, but right now the company really in trouble is Samsung. They may go the way of LG.
Apparently there are now reports of the s10 exploding. Things just seem to be getting worse and worse for Samsung.
Some of us have been saying the competition for Samsung is not Apple but the Chinese phone manufacturers. That seems, indeed, that this might be the case.
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Totally subjective. Value is in the eyes of the beholder.
Far fewer than 10% of Android users are able to do what you’re talking about doing. The other 90-99% are at risk.
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The comparison here, for once, is apt, but you won’t like how it serves your argument.
An M3 is RWD, employs advanced suspension, engine, and electronic designs. It’s chassis is worlds apart from a Corolla, to say nothing of tye significant advances even a 320i has over a Corolla. Put simply, even the base, lowest end model based on its chassis outclasses the Corolla or even Lexus models.
Similarly, these manufacturers you list do not compete with Apple in terms of hardware design and longevity; they compete on price, and price alone.
The difference is what people value. I will not consider a car that is not RWD, is not a straight 6, and does not have steering feedback. I simply won’t. People who buy BMWs and Porsche’s, etc. based on their engineering merits won’t consider something like a Corolla. Similarly, if you value longevity, industrial design and security, you aren’t looking at anything but an iOS device. The Chinese market doesn’t value the latter, and so you have the rise of domestic Chinese brands.
no because they don't sell the same products
steak house is not like mc Donalds
so there is really no war going on between them
but you can compare, mcdonalds with Wendys and Burger King
they do compete against each other
but this is not about burgers lol
apple is not selling that many iPhones in china
isn't Huawei selling more phones than apple in china?
at least in this quarter
that's why I said they are loosing the war
because they are
Huawei is beating apple in sales on china
there is no reason to get upset or make a big deal out of it
is good that this happens, mr cook thinks he own the world
here is to you mr cook a doze of reality directly from china with love
lol
you can hide from others but you can't never hide from your true self
Why would I get upset? Apple dominates the high-end smartphone market. Huawei, ZTE or anyone else selling a boatload of dirt-cheap phones doesn’t affect Apple one bit.
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Comparing Lexus sales to BMW sales would be reasonable since they have a lot of competing models in the same class. Comparing Lexus + Toyota to BMW is ridiculous. Which is exactly what people comparing Samsung to Apple are doing. Separate out the Samsung flagships and their sales are a fraction of the iPhone.
It's difficult for Apple to compete in China. The flagship Huawei are selling very well. Chinese brands are trying new things with innovative ideas which are quite good. People are buying them like crazy.
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Most people don't care about privacy. With Google and Facebook, there is no such thing as privacy.
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Most people don't care about privacy. With Google and Facebook, there is no such thing as privacy.
I'd probably get banned for describing this statement accurately.
Suffice to say, the Apple Music family plan i subscribe to costs 15RMB per month, which is under $2.50 (or under $30 a year) and the regular one is 10RMB per month. That's under $20 per YEAR...
Why should I be worried about 90% of other Android users, are you worried about the percentage of iPhone users that lack the basic knowledge of online security? Sure I wish more people knew how to do these things on both platforms but it's not my issue they don't. I also wouldn't say 90% because again it takes making dumb mistakes to get malware/spyware on your device and you're implying 90% of Android users are dumb and reckless, same could be said for iOS users but again I'd be just pulling numbers out of my....
It's impossible not to use WeChat or Alipay in China as public services are tied to them. You cannot get any public service in some cases (e.g. medical appointment) without booking through WeChat mini application. Facetime Audio is banned in China. iCloud services in China are run by Chinese govt. org. iPhones buyers in China have no option but to use them. Most Apple services such as iTunes Music Store, Book Store, Movies are banned in China. Local services provide much better service. Nobody used iCloud as a cloud storage as they use Alibaba which is much cheaper. No one cares about privacy in China.
Sure, they are not stupid, but they are certainly patriotic. No way Apple can beat Huawei's patriotic marketing.
It's interesting to see Apple following Samsung's footsteps in China, whose market share went from #1 to NaN.
It isn't banned. It just (I presume) isn't allowed to be included on devices under a certain size. I've bought two ipads and an ipad mini in mainland China in the past 12 months, and been issued another by my employer, and all of them have access to Facetime Audio.
edit: all of those ipads were wifi-only. on the official specs it isn't listed as being a feature. I'm guessing its not tied to size but cellular connectivity.
Huawei is “Dominating” the Chinese market because most of the phones they sell is around $200, called Maimang and Changxiang, not the P and Mate series people always hear about in the US. Coming from a Chinese.
FWIW, my Taiwanese/Chinese parents and all their retired old friends traveled to China for vacation but also wanted to buy a (not-yet-released) Huawei phone. My mother thought the Huawei phones/stores were more "exciting" than her current iPhone.
you don't get upset but others do, like loyal apple fans that take things everything personal
like when some one says something that they don't like about apple
yes I was writing to you but others also read the post
so something I write things to you and other times I write in general
yes apple might still dominate but for how long
apple might still dominate over all but they are not dominating in china that's for sure
little by little all those companies will begin to affect apple a lot
you think that apple is invincible but one day they will fall
their arrogance will be their downfall
never underestimate your opponent
Huawei might sell dirt cheap phones but how much you think is the cost to make an iPhone
also dirt-cheap, the only difference is that apple sell it for about 10 times the production cost
don't get me wrong I'm not a apple hater but I'm just very realistic
and pretending that apple products are free from defect while criticizing other companies is not fair
the truth is that people are paying just for the apple logo or apple brand
honestly the only thing that helps apple is not really their hardware
is their software, that is their only advantage
but is all good, everybody thinks different
regards
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You missed my entire point.
You expressed the concerns of an android user well: malware from certain sources, and the steps needed to mitigate those threats:
You are obviously a highly technical user, and are able to shield yourself from those issues. But if you look at the entire population of android users, there is no way you’re going to convince me that more than 1 in 10 have the skill set to do that. Do 9 in 10 know which sites are shady and can’t be trusted for downloads? How does one even keep up with that list? Hang out on AndroidCentral (or wherever android users hang out these days)?
And really, monitor all the traffic going in and out of your phone daily? Does 1 in 100 Android users even know that (or how) they could do that, let alone actually do it? And who wants to have to do that? That’s ridiculous. Why should anybody have to do that, to be secure? That’s insane. Nobody I know would do that.
My point is that 100% of iPhone users don’t have to worry about any of that crap. My mom, dad, grandparents, even my siblings can’t protect themselves as you can. They would be absolutely lost and overwhelmed looking at all those permissions. They wouldn’t know what to change to increase their privacy. They simply don’t have the necessary technical skill—or desire quite frankly—and with iPhone they don’t have to worry about it.
iOS is built with security in mind, from sandboxed apps to Apple’s App Store, policies and controls that are designed to prevent the types of abuse that are rampant with Android.
Android works for you and that’s awesome. But as the tech support for my family, I would never recommend Android to them. Everyone is on iPhone and they like it and I like it.
tl;dr: It takes knowledge and skill to maintain privacy and be secure on Android, and many non-techies aren’t capable. iOS users don’t have to worry about it.
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I think you need to list out all the technical spec and compare.
XS Max
1242 x 2688 pixels
4G Ram
64GB storage
157.5 x 77.4 x 7.7 mm
208g
12 MP, f/1.8, 26mm (wide), 1/2.55", 1.4µm, OIS, PDAF
12 MP, f/2.4, 52mm (telephoto), 1/3.4", 1.0µm, OIS, PDAF, 2x optical zoom
3174 mAh battery
Fast battery charging 15W: 50% in 30 min
starting $1099 USD
Huawei P30 Pro
1080 x 2340 pixels
8G ram
256GB stroage
158 x 73.4 x 8.4 mm
192g
40 MP, f/1.6, 27mm (wide), 1/1.7", PDAF, OIS
20 MP, f/2.2, 16mm (ultrawide), 1/2.7", PDAF
Periscope 8 MP, f/3.4, 125mm (telephoto), 1/4", 5x optical zoom, OIS, PDAF
4200 mAh battery
Fast battery charging 40W (70% in 30 min)
USB-C connector
Starting at $820 USD
Sorry to burst your bubble, but Apple is overprice...big time and technically inferior to other phone out there. Back in the old days, Android was a bit choppy on navigation and playing mobile games was quite a few slower than iphone. However, if you start looking at the new Android in 2018/2019, they are indeed as fast as iphone. I own both XS Max and a 2019 Android top of the line model. Sorry to say, but performance is just about the same, but the price for the android is SIGNIFICANTLY cheaper. Buying a Sony X1 or Samsung S10+ for similar price as the Huawei and you can forget about the privacy issue tie with Huawei.
I don’t know why you quoted me. None of what you wrote has anything to do with the original post, or my reply to it.
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In my defense I was at the movies when I last replied so it may have been gibberish but great way to drive your point. You're right, the average user won't know how or even bother with trying to figure out how to enhance the security on their device, most would rather buy a device that has security in mind and not have to worry about it. This is stuff I enjoy doing so it's not much of a hassle for me. Well sir, I have no other arguments, I will bow out of this convo lol.
There’s been an anti Apple campaign going on in China in response to Trump’s trade wars and the arrest of the Huwawei CEO. Not surprising that the Chinese are choosing to support a Chinese company.
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