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Maybe that specific unit has a hardware issue? Apple didn't cheap out on inferior tech, Google did by using an LG panel.
They literally got a standard OLED rather than Samsung's superior AMOLED... And we have contacted apple about it, they're sending a replacement. We will see what happens
 
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They literally got a standard OLED rather than Samsung's superior AMOLED... And we have contacted apple about it, they're sending a replacement. We will see what happens
Let me remind you of facts, since you have ignored them to complete your narrative. The "inferior" OLED panel Apple got from Samsung beat out the AMOLED in scientific testing.
  • Highest absolute color accuracy for any display (0.9 JNCD)
  • Highest full screen brightness for OLED smartphones (634 nits)
  • Highest full screen contrast rating in ambient light (141)
  • Highest contrast ratio (Infinite)
  • Lowest screen reflectance (4.5 percent)
  • Smallest brightness variation with viewing angle (22 percent)
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BRING BACK TOUCH ID! Face ID is the least secure method.
1) AGAIN, didn't see setup process, so this "hack" is entirely invalid.
2) This assumes the "hacker" has the user's information (how they look, a silicone mold, high res pictures)
3) Their broken English and clear Apple bias doesn't explain their method clearly.
4) A lost iPhone is still secure because it would be impossible to know the owner just by looking at it.
5) Even if this works, it's entirely impractical and probably requires "training" FaceID to work using passcode on failed attempts
 
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They literally got a standard OLED rather than Samsung's superior AMOLED... And we have contacted apple about it, they're sending a replacement. We will see what happens

....and the iPhone X's OLED has been rated higher than the Note 8. I prefer the accurate colors of the iPhone X's display
 
I wouldn't say that FaceId is actually a plus over TouchId, few points here:
- TouchId is faster and works more reliably, e.g. I can unlock a phone while pulling it out from the jeans
- FaceId does not work with sunglasses (RayBan and Porsche Design for sure), huge issue in sunny regions. I need to remove the sunglasses to unlock my phone.
- FaceId does not work in the morning while you are laying on the pillow (on the side). :)
 
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I don’t know, it could be, but iPhone 8 was way faster in camprison to other Android devices. In my theory it could be a higher res display is taking more processing power than the one they got on older iPhones. Obviously Android has improved a lot and that could also be a factor to all these performance upgrade.
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Chill! Obviously the difference is not a big deal but it was a surprised for me at least. GeekBench score would have been translated twice as fast for A11 chips but it’s not. Like I said the difference is minimal and both phones performs really well as expected. I wouldn’t call the person idiot desperate fanboi. Because you seems hurt from what he presented, and from a real world experience he’s pretty close for some people way of using their phone.

Pill chill boy. This is not real world use. NO ONE runs apps in a last in/first out order for 15 apps. This is a test of the extra gig of RAM on the note. If you can't grok that, well seems par for the course. I'm hurt by stupidity everywhere. It brings us all down collectively.
 
FaceID being "largely fast and accurate" makes it the SAME as TouchID with the negative that I cannot do it discretely, I cannot do it by reaching over to a phone sitting on a desk. TouchID is largely fast and accurate. Not let pretend TouchID is old and busted because Apple wants to tell us FaceID is new and improved.
 
These phones aren't even on the same planet, for me personally.

The Pixel has an excellent camera but:
  • Mostly Plastic
  • Has Huge Bezels
  • An inferior OLED from LG. Color shift. Burn in.
  • Less premium build quality
  • Generally Ugly
  • No wireless charging.
  • Removed headphone jack after making fun of Apple...loses all credibility


It is rare for me to respond but this just begs.....

- What have you got against plastic?

Generally Ugly?

- Hmm no - That notch at the top of the X is just ugly... I'm sticking with my iPhone 8 (It has Touch ID)
Just wait till we hear stories about someone in a bad car wreck because Car Play insisted for some strange reason, the person needs to "unlock your phone" for the 1000 time, like mine does. Touch ID does not make me take my eyes off the road.

- No wireless charging vs fast charging - draw

- Loses all credibility? - picky (I'm sure Google is really worried about that since you will never buy one of their phones anyway)

- Pixel XL2 Phone felt pretty nice and solid to me when I held it but thats just my opinion. I won't switch but fair is fair. Google seems to be picking up its game
 
I wouldn't say that FaceId is actually a plus over TouchId, few points here:
- TouchId is faster and works more reliably, e.g. I can unlock a phone while pulling it out from the jeans
- FaceId does not work with sunglasses (RayBan and Porsche Design for sure), huge issue in sunny regions. I need to remove the sunglasses to unlock my phone.
- FaceId does not work in the morning while you are laying on the pillow (on the side). :)

Face ID is better in that you can perform actions at the same time authentication is happening. For example, tapping a notification on the lock screen.
 
the ratio body/screen of the iphone X is a real advantage against the google pixel 2 xl
[doublepost=1510601451][/doublepost]Obviously making a choice is really complicated when it comes to two so advanced smartphones. Both offer world-class performance and unique design that everyone would love to own. However, they both have something in common: they are too expensive....


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I don't have a ton of time to respond to this, so I'll just say
  • Chromecast is a much better experience than airplay as it doesn't drain your phone because your phone isn't driving the feed.
  • Google Photos is free with compression for large photos (not cell phone photos).

To each his own is the best conclusion that we can get to. Not one is superior than other.
 
A black and red Pixel 2 XL would match my Textra theme found in this thread -

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-x-vs-android-i-know-i-know.2088074/page-2

A Product RED iPhone X with a black front would be pretty sweet as well. I was very disappointed by the red iPhone 7. Not only because of the white front but it wasn't really a true red when I saw it in person.

First time in iPhone history when it got the Product RED treatment and it looked utterly disappointing. Might have been over a decade for the iPods. Coolest red product from Apple is their iPod nano 4th/5th gens.

I haven't really found a nice red smartphone since the Lenovo S820.
 
They literally got a standard OLED rather than Samsung's superior AMOLED... And we have contacted apple about it, they're sending a replacement. We will see what happens
You living under a rock and missed all the tech articles?
Apple is using a Samsung sourced and manufactured AMOLED that is turned to Apple spec for better color accuracy.

Google is beta testing a PMOLED from LG.

There is no such thing as a “standard OLED”, that is not s thing.
 
Dan from MacRumors:
1. Doesn't really like the the vertical dual cameras on the back of the iPhone X? THAT's what he has an opinion about? How the hell does is matter if they are vertical or horizontal?
STATUS: Right off the bat I'm starting to wonder where this guy's priorities are. And if I trust his opinion.
2. Doesn't think Face ID is necessary? 'I would have liked to personally see Apple come up with a way to embed Touch ID in the screen or put it on the back where the Apple logo is?' What is he talking about? this is not an Apple guy.
STATUS: credibility on shaky ground.
3. Said "FaceID is here, but who knows for how long" What? Does this guy know Apple at all? Starting to think he's an Android-first guy who saw the job posting job a few months back for a MacRumors video guy and just needed the work.
STATUS: Credibility, shot.

Dan from MacRumors seems like an appliance guy, e.g. someone who works at Best Buy, not an Apple guy. His knowledge and understanding of Apple as a company seem superficial. And while it is nice to see what's going on with Android, I just don't know if I can rely on this guy for the inside scoop on Apple gear/software/services moving forward. Makes me miss Matt from Macrumors, who was super nerdy but very knowledgeable and thorough. That said, Dan from MacRumors is here now, but who knows for how long?
 
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Dan from MacRumors:
1. Doesn't really like the the vertical dual cameras on the back of the iPhone X? THAT's what he has an option about? How the hell does is matter if they are vertical or horizontal? It matters a lot as it makes the "laying flat on a table" worse. Without a case, the camera in a vertical orientation is worse than with a horizontal orientation. I could spell this out for you, but I shouldn't have to because it's fairly basic.
STATUS: Right off the bat I'm starting to wonder where this guy's priorities are. And if I trust his opinion. Acceptable complaint.
2. Doesn't think Apple ID is necessary? 'I would have liked to personally see Apple come up with a way to embed Touch ID in the screen or put it on the back where the Apple logo is?' What is he talking about? this is not an Apple guy. Nothing about this says "I'm not an apple guy". I would expect an Apple guy to expect more and am open to hearing the reviewer's preferences.
STATUS: credibility on shaky ground. It's a fine criticism. No one giving a review needs to make excuses for Apple. In fact, a real Apple guy expects more from Apple than you do.
3. Said "FaceID is here, but who knows for how long" What? Does this guy know Apple at all? Starting to think he's an Android-first guy who saw the job posting job a few months back for a MacRumors video guy and just needed the work. I'm not sure what you problem is here. The security technology changes and something about this design does feel like a compromise.
STATUS: Credibility, shot. It's official: you're not a good judge of credibility.

Dan from MacRumors seems like an appliance guy, e.g. someone who works at Best Buy, not an Apple guy.
You complain about his credibility and then complain he's not an Apple guy. Which is it? You can't be both. Either the review is credible (unbiased) or it's not.
His knowledge and understanding of Apple as a company seem superficial.
No one actually feels this way. This is your delusion.
And while it is nice to see what's going on with Android, I just don't know if I can rely on this guy for the inside scoop on Apple gear/software/services moving forward. Makes me miss Matt from Macrumors, who was super nerdy but very knowledgeable and thorough. That said, Dan from MacRumors is here now, but who knows for how long? I applaud Macrumors for some level of understanding of the interest of all it's users.
This is one of the worst criticisms of a review I have ever seen, and I go on iMore a lot. Sorry dude, the only person missing the mark is you and you miss it badly.
 
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The only thing true in your list if Google Assistant is better than Siri. The rest are just your opinions.
GoogleHome is just a cheap device to get Google Assistant to the home, while HomePod has a different purpose. It's used for Home Music entertainment. HomePod blows Google home out of the water in term of music and sound quality. Despite what most androids fans think, Google Home and HomePod have different purposes and are not comparable. HomePod just happens to have Siri on it.


You know about HomePod how? It's not out yet and the reviews typically gush over any Apple product. And for the insane price they are asking for it, it better sound awesome. Google also has the Home Max that is also unreleased and is said to sound quite good.

You also conveniently forget that you have other manufacturers making Google Assistant speakers so there is the potential for great sound quality or even integration with things like soundbars (already happening) and other devices.

You also forget that you can pair Google home with Chromecast Audio devices and have it play on whatever stereo you have. The integration of the whole Google Home ecosystem is top notch and ahead of Apple (but behind Amazon).

Chromecast is better than AirPlay? Really? LOL. You must haven't use AirPlay. AirPlay is miles ahead of any similar wireless tech in terms of image quality, vid quality, ease of use and reliability.

Sure I have - I've got 2x Apple TV's, a bunch of Macs, etc. Airplay is a bit laggy, can have odd issues, and kills battery life as the device is streaming to the TV. Contrast that with my TV with built in Chromecast where I can tell the Netflix app to play something and the TV handles all the heavy lifting, leaving my phone free to do other things and not serve content to the TV.
 
funny to read back some of the comments made about wireless charging.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s-early-as-2013.1553794/page-11#post-16970100

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/why-is-wireless-charging-considered-a-selling-point.1535637/

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/are-you-in-favour-of-wireless-charging.1649769/

case study conclusion: wireless charing is not a selling point. wireless is not really wireless. iPhones don't really have wireless charging to Apple's standard.
 

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Yay, let's vote for phones that call us stupid by not having a headphone jack. Who wants to be able to listen to his music anyway?

I'll just carry a Panasonic Platinum boombox and leave my "thin, elegant" phone at home on the charger.
 
This is one of the worst criticisms of a review I have ever seen, and I go on iMore a lot. Sorry dude, the only person missing the mark is you and you miss it badly.
1. I think your criticism of my criticism is one of the worst I've ever seen.
2. This is MacRumors not iMore, genius.
3. I'm embarrassed to learn that you're a fellow Illini.
So I guess we're even.

Newsflash: opinions are like a**holes, kid, everyone has one. You're entitled to yours, I'm entitled to mine. I prefer the old MacRumors guy, so sue me. You certainly have the right to go point by point and try to rebut what I wrote. But the vitriol and extra mustard you slather all over it makes me think you were probably a bit too hangry, and maybe shoulda grabbed a Snickers before writing. It wouldn't have helped how illogical or pointless your responses were, but it mighta made them less testy.

My responses to your responses:

Dan from MacRumors:
1. Doesn't really like the the vertical dual cameras on the back of the iPhone X? THAT's what he has an opinion about? How the hell does is matter if they are vertical or horizontal? It matters a lot as it makes the "laying flat on a table" worse. Without a case, the camera in a vertical orientation is worse than with a horizontal orientation. I could spell this out for you, but I shouldn't have to because it's fairly basic.
STATUS: Right off the bat I'm starting to wonder where this guy's priorities are. And if I trust his opinion. Acceptable complaint.
You're entitled to whine all you want about the camera orientation, but I'd hope that the MacRumors reviewer would be savvy enough to know that it's a design compromise derived from the fact that the new vertical camera array optimizes the camera lenses for AR purposes, when the phone is typically held in landscape mode. So yeah, they could have kept the cameras the old way, so that the 25% of people who don't use a case can have their phone lie a 'little' flatter on a table (it never really lied very flat on the 7 Plus to begin with), or change their orientation to maximize the effectiveness of the new AR platform, the next great leap forward in how people on planet earth with use and interact with technology. Therefore, it's completely valid to question this guy's priorities as a reviewer. His inability to discuss design changes in and informed way and with proper context makes him less useful than a reviewer who does.
Status of your rebuttal: pointless.


2. Doesn't think Face ID is necessary? "I would have liked to personally see Apple come up with a way to embed Touch ID in the screen or put it on the back where the Apple logo is?" What is he talking about? This is not an Apple guy. Nothing about this says "I'm not an apple guy". I would expect an Apple guy to expect more and am open to hearing the reviewer's preferences.
STATUS: credibility on shaky ground. It's a fine criticism. No one giving a review needs to make excuses for Apple. In fact, a real Apple guy expects more from Apple than you do.
A real Apple guy expects actually does expect a lot from Apple. He/she expects Apple to be one of the only tech companies with the balls to make the kind of bold, extremely difficult design changes necessary to change how people interface with technology and push their products (and as a result the industry) forward. He/she expects them to not allow the status quo to derail progress, and to have the stomach to make the necessary, tough design decisions (that they know will bring a chorus of complaints from the whiners and the clingers) because they believe that the long-term payoff is worth it. I don't expect a MacUser reviewer to make excuses for Apple, those are your words not mine. But I do expect them to put new interface design changes in historical perspective, and to come across as something more than a kid in a mall picking up an iPhone X for the first time and going "Ew, where's the but-un?". I received my iPhone X at 8am on launch day and by noon I was already annoyed by the home button on my iPad Pro, wishing that it too had Face ID. Its certainly not as powerful as it will be in future generations, but it is already better than Touch ID in 80% of use cases, and a fantastic new technology. Do you have an iPhone X? Do you share the reviewers luddite wishes? By virtue of the fact that you clearly don't understand the historical context behind this change, or the importance of having reviewer who puts it in context, you've shown yourself to be a tourist. If you were an actual Apple guy, you'd expect them to break with the past, no training wheels or safety net attached, just as I expected they would.
Status of your rebuttal: tourist talk.


3. Said "FaceID is here, but who knows for how long" What? Does this guy know Apple at all? Starting to think he's an Android-first guy who saw the job posting job a few months back for a MacRumors video guy and just needed the work. I'm not sure what you problem is here. The security technology changes and something about this design does feel like a compromise.
STATUS: Credibility, shot. It's official: you're not a good judge of credibility.
"...something about this design change does feel like a compromise." Really? How, exactly? Do you actually own an iPhone X? Because everyone that I know who owns one, myself included, feels like the new technology is pretty much like magic and and has quickly adapted the new gestures without much of a hiccup. And for the more that 100 million people who live north of the Mason Dixon line, being able to unlock your phone without taking our gloves off all winter doens't feel like much of a design compromise. Methinks you don't understand the word "compromise". Putting Touch ID under the screen (at great expense) or clumsily adding it to the back of the phone in addition to including Face ID would be the very definition of compromise. What Apple did is quite different. And for a reviewer to casually make such ridiculous, uniformed speculation that completely ignores the context of Apple's legendary history of design interface changes, the massive amount of time and effert they've committed to creating this technology, and the fact that the rest of the industry is scrambling to once again copy them, is an unforgivable sin for a reviewer. If a reviewer knows less about whether a new feature will stick around than I do, that's not useful to me as a reader.
Status of your rebuttal: incredibly uncredible.


Dan from MacRumors seems like an appliance guy, e.g. someone who works at Best Buy, not an Apple guy.
You complain about his credibility and then complain he's not an Apple guy. Which is it? You can't be both. Either the review is credible (unbiased) or it's not.
It's the hobgoblin of little minds to not be able to hold two seemingly contradictory ideas in their skull without it exploding. If you squeeze your eyes closed and think real hard maybe you can figure out how someone could have a deep, thorough understanding of Apple's operations, culture, products and history, while also giving fair and critical reviews of current offerings. Or you could just read Daring Fireball, or the Macalope, or Jim Dalrymple, or Walt Mossberg (sadly retired) or a half-dozen other who don't confuse knowledge with bias and are often the first to criticize Apple when they underperform or screw up.
Status of your rebuttal: it's adorable that you think you "got me" here. Think different, son.


His knowledge and understanding of Apple as a company seem superficial.
No one actually feels this way. This is your delusion.
"No one actually feels this way"? Huh. And you know this because... you took a poll? To me, Dan's knowledge of Apple does seem superficial, and I've outlined why in detail above. I don't hate Dan from MacRumors, and maybe he'll grow into it and adjust/get better. I just think that readers of this website deserve a reviewer with at least as much knowledge of Apple products and history (and the ability to put current offerings/activities in proper context) as general tech columnists from major news media sites do. Why come to an Apple specific site if you can't expect to find experts who have more informed opinions than the tech guy from USA Today (who's not bad, btw). And when the reviewer doesn't seem to even have as much insight about the topic at hand as the reader, that's a problem. Sure, it's great if he's also wise to information about other platforms, but not if it's at the expense of insight about the brand I'm coming to this site for news about. It's a reasonable expectation, bro. You, on the otherhand, are just engaging in insults and wild speculation, making up facts to spackle your crumbling argument. Bravo.
Status of your rebuttal: lair, liar, pants on fire.


And while it is nice to see what's going on with Android, I just don't know if I can rely on this guy for the inside scoop on Apple gear/software/services moving forward. Makes me miss Matt from Macrumors, who was super nerdy but very knowledgeable and thorough. That said, Dan from MacRumors is here now, but who knows for how long? I applaud Macrumors for some level of understanding of the interest of all it's users
There's always that one guy at the end of bad 80's movies standing up and doing the slow, dramatic clap.
Status of your rebuttal: ctrl alt delete.
 
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