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Battery life better be 4-5 days so I don't have to charge when I'm away for the weekend.

Would like if apple could make a Y adapter for the iPhone and iWatch so its one cable plugging into my 120v
 
Probably announce it at WWDC next June allowing developers time to build apps for it, then release in Sept/Oct ready for Christmas sales spike.

Don't think they'll call it the iWatch. Will be called the iPod Watch or iPod Something. That way they can design a range of wearable devices all branded under the iPod name to replace the current iPod range. The iPhone 5c will eventually replace the iPod touch.
 
This. Having something on your wrist can open up a whole world of possibilities. This reminds me of how people claimed that the iPad was simply a larger iPod touch. That notion remains mostly dead.

Not exactly.

If the iWatch will do everything that my iPhone can do and become a replacement, then I could see it taking off.

But as an high price add-on to my iPhone, it would only appeal to a limited crowd.
 
Battery Life

And thats why I swear on heaving a automatic mechanical watch. There are some incredible expensive gems out there (if you want to spend 260 k for a watch) - but a regular automatic watch will do. Shows time and date, sometimes more (for more $$) and is reliable without battery. As much as I like Apple but I will not give up my mechanical watch unless there is something really amazing in the iWatch (which I do not see coming).
 
I like that idea a lot.

Make the watch fully waterproof like some others are saying and you'd never have to take the thing off. So when you go to the gym or the beach, your "wallet" stays with you - and not left behind in a locker, car or beach bag where it can be stolen.

Payment could be the killer feature that brings watches back into fashion.

I think NFC makes FAR more sense in the watch than in the phone. No pulling my phone out to scan. Just flick my wrist and voila.

And creating a two-factor authentication system that works between the iPhone and iWatch makes it more secure - especially if the iWatch uses biometric scanners to tell who's wearing it.

Someone could steal my iPhone, but not use it because they don't have the iWatch (the watch could also be used to track the iPhone via some form of location system/low power beacon which works even when the phone is off). Conversely, some could steal my iWatch but can't use it because it knows I'm not wearing it and it's out of range of the iPhone.

There would be issues to overcome, but a much more useful feature set than a camera on the band and phone call features.....
 
Well, with wireless charging capability and bluetooth sync options, I see no reason why this thing can't be sealed. Just don't know if they'll shoot for water resistant (splash/rain proof), or watertight (go diving).

Hopefully is watertight. Using it for water sports or if you forget to take it out when going to a shower.
 
Battery life better be 4-5 days so I don't have to charge when I'm away for the weekend.

Would like if apple could make a Y adapter for the iPhone and iWatch so its one cable plugging into my 120v

Realistically I would expect that the battery life will be 24 - 48 hours on the first gen model. Their thinking being that you will take off and charge the watch on your bedside table as you sleep.
 
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Wearable tech should have kinetic charging or use body heat to generate energy.

This looks pointless, and I don't want one unless it has a lot of really badass integrated sensors (read: NOT just accelerometers) that can be used to monitor my health etc.

Apparently Nokia is making one too, I'm very curious to see how they'll compare.

lol...knew, with all due respect.. u know the state of the current generation thermoelectric tech? or even kinetic energy devices? :D
pls stop asking for things that requires years of improvement to reach an acceptable level. :rolleyes:
 
Not exactly.

If the iWatch will do everything that my iPhone can do and become a replacement, then I could see it taking off.

But as an high price add-on to my iPhone, it would only appeal to a limited crowd.

I hope that they make it a fully functional replacement. It may seem a bit far off, but I'd like to do almost everything that an iPod touch can do and more.

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How long does your phone last now? I doubt the watch will have any usefulness (except tell the time) without your phone to feed it data.

A watch is different to a phone in the sense that I always have it ready when I want it. My phone is low on battery? No worry, my watch will back me.
 
"which will allow the device to charge from up to a meter away"

What kind of sorcery is this?
 
Someone could steal my iPhone, but not use it because they don't have the iWatch

Another good one. You're on a roll!

And not just for theft prevention. Whereas it won't reduce the chances of losing your phone (or leaving it behind in a bar :)) - it will make it useless to anyone who finds it.
 
Well, in So Cal, it's a status symbol, which is really the only reason I'm not sure the iWatch will really catch on. I wear my Pebble when I running around and DJing because it's convenient, but when I go out or have a real business meeting, I throw the Rolex or Movado on.

As good as the pebble is, it still screams Casio G-Shock.

Suppressing involuntary gagging response.

Just so we know, not everyone who lives in Southern California is anywhere close to this pretentious.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if the Apple TV rumors and the iWatch rumors were actually the same device?

"Apple releases a 4K TV set that's 1.5" for your living room and a 50" iWatch for your wrist?!"

(What's wrong with me? Must be rumor burnt out)

I had to log in just to tell you how funny this is
 
Suppressing involuntary gagging response.

Just so we know, not everyone who lives in Southern California is anywhere close to this pretentious.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Clearly, my clientelle is different from yours and that's ok. I know that my clients value the appearance and if that one little things keeps people booking, I'm good. No need for the condescension.
 
So you tell me its a limitation of physics (essentially saying its impossible), then go on to say countless other institutions have been trying to do it for the last 10 years?

I never said it was impossible. I said it is possible, but with current technology it uses too much power and has other problems as I stated. Scientists have been trying for years to get increased wireless power efficiency, and you think Apple (with very few scientists) has suddenly managed to crack it?


Have you ever seen Ted Talks? I remember seeing one about TRUE wireless charging - called it Witricity. Obviously there are issues currently....that's what technological advancement is all about. Do you think society 50 years ago would've thought it possible to fit a computer in the palm of your hand?

Witricity is a company, their tech uses inductive charging and has exactly the problems I have stated. Inductive charging is "true" charging, so not sure what you mean there, it's just very inefficient.

Technology is the tool used to make the "impossible", possible. In however many years, we'll be wirelessly charging our devices through our wifi connections and will wonder about the next advancement.

I don't doubt, but right now the tech isn't there yet. If the watch was sat on a charging pad you get fairly good efficiency, but certainly not at one meter. The amount of power required (and the size of the antenna) increase exponentially as the distance from the antenna increases. The magnetic field decreases at a rate of distance^-3.

RFID uses the same tech, and the maximum read range with a transmission coil of 10cm and receiving coil of 3cm is around 15cm. Those tags require just 1v and 1 microamp, thats 0.000001 amps. For comparison, the iPhone uses 1 amp at 5 volts.

Another issue is the watch couldn't be metal, or have any large metal objects inside, since they would shield and completely de-tune both the receiving and transmission antenna. Hell, anything metallic within a 1 meter radius of the transmission antenna would detune it and reduce its range.

And ya - Apple with its $150 billion in cash and vast resources across the globe could certainly have accomplished something like this. Not all that surprising.

But where are their scientists? You don't just employ thousands of scientists without anyone knowing, especially since Apple's workforce is comparatively small (13k-ish), iirc.

I think you are exaggerating a bit for effect, but I agree in principle.

The real issue is not the size of the transmitter, but the inefficiency of the process. How green can you be when you are building an RF transmitter to transmit power like this over a meter sphere? The power reduction is a function of the radius cubed (unless you are dealing with directed antennas at very high frequencies, which can cook birds out of the sky)... Seems kind of un-Apple like.

All those people complaining about "vampire losses" from wall worts plugged in all over the place will finally have a new cause to champion, because this thing will not be efficient.

I completely agree, non-targetted RF is terribly inefficient.

Tesla worked on this for decades, along with beamed energy weapons (kind of the same thing), starting in the early 1900's. Notice we still have high power transmission lines all over the place.

Note: recent MIT experimentation with resonance to allow efficient transfer of power is interesting, and possibly what we are talking about here. This is interesting, because Tesla was also convinced that resonance was the key to long term power transmission, and was trying to find the resonance frequency of the entire earth. Commonly known as "Tesla's Folly".

http://phys.org/news100445957.html
http://www.pbs.org/tesla/ll/ll_todre.html

That is interesting, thanks! RFID tags use the resonant frequency to get optimal range.

"which will allow the device to charge from up to a meter away"

What kind of sorcery is this?

Haha, exactly!

Edit: notice the half meter coils on the receiving and transmitting side at the MIT!
 
Another good one. You're on a roll!

And not just for theft prevention. Whereas it won't reduce the chances of losing your phone (or leaving it behind in a bar :)) - it will make it useless to anyone who finds it.

The watch could let out an alarm if you walk away from your phone. That would alert you that you left it somewhere ;)
 
Add something that recharges the battery with the sway of your arm as you walk. It's already been implemented in other watches but are too clunky. If that can be miniaturized, you could go weeks if not months without removing it to recharge the little 100mah battery.
 
Add something that recharges the battery with the sway of your arm as you walk. It's already been implemented in other watches but are too clunky. If that can be miniaturized, you could go weeks if not months without removing it to recharge the little 100mah battery.

You don't have to buy those super clunky self winding watches. My Rolex is very sleek and is not obvious from a far. Only real watch people can spot it, which I prefer.
 
you would be a fool to buy first generation iWatch.

Just look at iPad 1, original iPhone, retina macbook pro ..

Yep. I know. And yet I've bought iPad 1, the original iPhone, and MacBook Air rev. A. They all were really great at the time, just haven't aged that well. So I promise myself to try to be wiser in the future, but I have that strange feeling I will get that 1st gen iWatch anyway... ;)
 
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