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Apple's Jonathan Ive Considering Moving Back to England?
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With SJ's health in real doubt, and his tenure as CEO obviously nearing an end sometime soon, that will probably leave COO Tim Cook in command.
Apple may face some hard times adjusting and it's simply not a good time to have a key player like Jonathan Ive leaving the company in what could be SJ's last year as a full-time, healthy CEO. And some can argue that SJ has not been all that healthy in 2011 and isn't likely to get back to his full capability.
I think when SJ leaves that Apple will survive and do well for many years. The position Apple is in with iPhone/iPod/iTunes is extremely solid. It would take years for competitors to successfully chip away at that block.
Apple may face some hard times adjusting and it's simply not a good time to have a key player like Jonathan Ive leaving the company in what could be SJ's last year as a full-time, healthy CEO. And some can argue that SJ has not been all that healthy in 2011 and isn't likely to get back to his full capability.
I think when SJ leaves that Apple will survive and do well for many years. The position Apple is in with iPhone/iPod/iTunes is extremely solid. It would take years for competitors to successfully chip away at that block.
That being said, Ive is listed amongst the owners of several patents: http://www.ipexl.com/share/5881c98bf2bdac34d1badc79b175304a
I suspect that this has already passed. With Jobs having announced his leave of absence, indefinitely at this point, I think the process for him to step down and accept a lesser role has already started.
I don't think so, but wouldn't that be nice? being named on a patent claim is not owning IP, copywrite, trademark, etc.
Congratulations - that's the most absurd statement of "fact" that I've read all year!
I just don't want Apple to go back to the stone age as it once did when they lost Steve Jobs...
Apple needs to get it's plan of action quick..
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Jonathan Ive's house.
I wonder if Mr. Ive's house has no doors... or maybe no windows. Cannot have both as they have similar functions in some cases....
I wonder if Mr. Ive's house has no doors... or maybe no windows. Cannot have both as they have similar functions in some cases....
Yeah, because Apple, Inc. of 2011 bears an uncanny resemblance to Apple Computer, Inc. circa 1985. And of course Apple has no plan of action.
If SJ is even a decent CEO, he has already created a Line of succession plan. Make that plans. Apple is in good shape and I am sure that they will be in good shape for years to come. Remember that no one is irreplaceable, not even SJ. I am pretty sure that this Ive fellow could also be replaced.
Ridiculous
for Apple to cut off it's head to spite itself like this.
Let the man telecommute with a performance review every few months to see how it's going. With all the instant "sharing" technology today that allows tweets, video desktop sharing, two way cameras, and yes...even plain old phone calls, I think he has more than proven his value many times over. Geez give a guy like this the ability to telecommute and he'll revolutionize the modern workforce (for those symbolic analysts and such...)
I just wonder if there is a power struggle going on or something more "evil"....
for Apple to cut off it's head to spite itself like this.
Let the man telecommute with a performance review every few months to see how it's going. With all the instant "sharing" technology today that allows tweets, video desktop sharing, two way cameras, and yes...even plain old phone calls, I think he has more than proven his value many times over. Geez give a guy like this the ability to telecommute and he'll revolutionize the modern workforce (for those symbolic analysts and such...)
I just wonder if there is a power struggle going on or something more "evil"....
I think you are right, whether SJ is truly too ill to continue, or that he is OK but genuinely wants to retire as CEO. Personally I hope it's the latter and maybe his survival of cancer was a wake up call and that, while he's in remission, it makes sense for him to retire and enjoy what life he has left.
Whether his death is imminent in the next year or two, or if he has decades left, he's not going to live forever. Unless you are in your 40s, 50s, or older, it's pretty hard to convince most younger people of just how time appears to go by faster every year and how you enjoy your life becomes so much more important.
If I was in my mid-50s, worth a few billion and well regarded for a turnaround for what was once a dying company, I would be satisfied with both my achievements and my bank account and retire. I would, of course, find ways to help others with my money, ala Bill Gates, and even have a foundation, but I would seriously cut back on work that took time away from family and friends.
The other thing I think is amazing about SJ is just how terrible he was as a businessman in his first tenure, and how most regarded him as creative, artistic, but never a businessperson like Bill Gates or Michael Dell. In his second run at Apple, he kept his creativity but acted in a businesslike way which rivaled anybody in high tech. Suddenly, he was among the best chest players in the game.
Since when? Any work you do while an employee of a company is the property of that company.... that's how it's always worked. I'm sure whatever contract Ive signed when he took the job made that very clear.
I agree with both of you, but with you (most) of the time. However, Woz (you may have heard of him) had a later issue with Atari, but was able to use his "work/idea/invention/innovation" with Apple, legally. Something technical, and whether I will ever understand is not likely since it's steeped in nerd-dom
I have always wondered about, let's say, you are a programmer, and you come up with some really cool app/idea/way of doing things (and let's say this is way back when) and you "invent" the drop down menu or the bottom left hand "start" icon. Is that something that a company can lay claim to? (I could PM mcrain) on that one.)
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I dont get why he cant jsut work it the UK? He's british and wants to go home, i dont blame him! He can still easily work for apple. I think apple are being a bit stupid saying that if he went to the UK they would have to 'let him go' seeign as he owns all of the intelectual property for ALL of the modern apple computers. You name it, he owns the rights for it. How are apple going to continue without any of there products seeing as Ive designed everything!?
I doubt very much that his day-to-day working environment is one in which he does all the work, or where each of the designers sits independently from one another, only to consult at meetings. In my limited experience, a creative environment is one in which each individual has open and free access to the perspective of their co-workers. Having the main consultant on the other side of the world is not conducive to that environment, regardless of the technology available. Any video conferencing technology has a sense of invasion to it and it fails to communicate the subtleties of human gestures and facial expressions which are all crucial. Finally, if he wants to go to Somerset, there is a chance that his connection speed would be insufficient for a decent quality video chat anyway.
The issue I have here is that if he required a golden handcuff to keep him before then he had already decided that living in England was more important than working for Apple. He strikes me as very English and has always struck me as being a bit of a fish out of water.
Plus the evolutionary steps in his work have become smaller and smaller of late. Perhaps he wants access to a completely different product type and range.
oopsie, it must have been that Hooters visit recently.
I can guarantee you that Hooters was not where I saw the chests.
Since we are practically neighbors, I will have to say what happens at Hooters stays in Hooters. BTW, which Hooters?
Or maybe he needs to go back to Europe to find new work to copy.
Again! Really? The Braun designs are clearly important to him, but his works are not exact copies. The beauty of his designs are independent and the similarities strike me as being more of an homage (an evolution of a design for a different era and different manufacturing capability) , than a rip-off.
BTW, which Hooters?
Portland Eagle. I'd include the URL, but the site is NSFW.
Just like OSX is becoming an homage to Windows, right?
Wow, I have to say that the Hooters franchise has really expanded!! But if NFSW Larry Flynt could go in and buy majority ownerships of "suitable for work" magazines, then heck, why not have Hooters expand?
I believe you're taking the p#*s, but for those that agree my response would be:
Of course. Finally Apple are acknowledging that it's not just about looks, but about content as well and MS has always had more under the hood and their UI was always more practical.
Apple has been my preferred choice for home because they look good on a desk. I only wished that they had been simple to use and did not require me to constantly tweak them just to get them to work.
Apple's priorities for their target market has nearly always been on target. If you prefer windows elements then switch. If you think that Apple should refuse to adopt MS' best innovations because they are no theirs then why? And if you think Apple are making their products weaker for adopting some MS innovations then tell me why.
Both companies copy from all over the place as well as provide their own innovations. The question is: which one is better for you and the ways you need to use them and their peripherals ?