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As far as the story goes, it's my hunch that it's a placed leak of some kind to leverage some internal dynamics within Apple's management.

Interesting. A inner corporate game of "chess". It seems certain game players may be hoping for a piece of the Apple pie, so to speak. Personally, I'd be a little surprised if this is Ives' true stance. As I understand, his roots have been fairly grounded in Cupertino/US for some time, and he travels back to the U.K. at his leisure. If he wanted out, and that's a big if, I'd suspect differing reasons such as retirement.

2011 seems to be on track for quite a year at 1 Infinite Loop.
 
The irony is, isn't Jobs a Buddhist? Isn't that supposed to condone nasty behaviour and advocate being nice to anyone and everyone? :confused:

Depends on which sect of Buddhism one practices. There is Japanese Buddhism and Tibetan Buddhism, among others. Japanese Buddhism takes a more rigid approach, with very strict guidelines. Mornings begin at 4:30 am in the Zendo for morning chant/prayer, there is no speaking unless absolutely necessary, days are filled with chores such as wood gathering, cooking, gardening, etc. Lunch is served and somedays a tea service with goods brought in by visitors/guests, bed by 9. In Japanese Buddhism, meditation in the Zendo may last from 30-60 minutes at a time, with both knees touching the floor, back upright, left hand over right hand interlocking thumbs (in homage to Buddha) and staying perfectly still and quiet. The main focus is to achieve "enlightenment", which may very from person to person. While meditating, do not try to push out the thoughts that come into your head, but let them flow through you. Make peace with your past, then recognize the present, and eventually one should be able to meditate with a clear conscious, uninhibited by the material needs and wants of the physical world. The Zendo is a long, narrow meditation room with two sides down an isle with Buddha at the end, each individual sits and faces an opposite individual with the head Monks in the front. During meditation the head Monk may walk down each side of the Zendo with a long bamboo stick. While in front of you if you place your hands together and lean forward, this signals the Monk to hit your right and left shoulders twice with the stick. This is a way of recognizing the physical self while meditating, not to awaken oneself but rather unifying the spiritual self with the physical self during meditation.

Japanese Buddhism believes that enlightenment may be achieved during one lifetime - some in a week, month or years. Tibetan Buddhism believes that enlightenment takes lifetimes to achieve. I have little experience with Tibetan Buddhism. I do know that Japanese Buddhism, as strict as it may appear, is one of the most accepting and diverse practices in Buddhism. Many of the Monks and practitioners came from amazingly varied backgrounds. Over my birthday weekend November 12-14 I went to the "Dai Bosatsu Zendo" in Livingston Manor, NY (Catskills) for a four day retreat (some come from all over the world for weeks and even months) and met some amazing people. The head Monk first came to the US from France as a classical flutist and she decided her life path was in another direction. A friend of mine who recommended it met a then 25 year old who was a buyer for a major high end retailer (she wouldn't say but I guessed it was Fred Segal as she lived in LA at the time). She hated her life, she was extremely sought after in the fashion industry and even though did very well she felt her life path was in another direction.

So my point in all this, Buddhism has many differing sects and differing methods but with similar principles: our life paths are predestined, we cannot change what has happened to us, we must make peace with our selves/lives, and focus on finding enlightenment through transcendence. I do not know what sect of Buddhism Steve Jobs practices, if any, but my guess is Tibetan. Buddhism follows a strict vegetarian and organic diet, and most Monasteries are self providing, they grow their own food and maintain their own energy/heat/etc.
 
Too bad the BoD of a really smart company is so moronic.

Fast forward...

"...in other news, Research in Motion announced last year's hiring of Jonathan Ive has reversed the company's rapid decline, and they are now quickly recapturing smart phone market-share from once-dominant Apple..."

Apple's BoD includes Algore. Enough said.
 
And "one more thing", aren't Buddhists the least materialistic people in the world? And yet Jobs is the head of a large multinational technology company, and i'm guessing mr. Jobs has a multiple IPhone 4's, MacBooks, iMacs, iPods hanging round his home. :D
 
And "one more thing", aren't Buddhists the least materialistic people in the world? And yet Jobs is the head of a large multinational technology company, and i'm guessing mr. Jobs has a multiple IPhone 4's, MacBooks, iMacs, iPods hanging round his home. :D

Unless you've studied Buddhism, these are unfair assumptions.

As a vegetarian who wears the same black clothing (in Buddhism you cannot wear colors or clothing with any graphics/symbols in the Monastery or Zendo but are allowed outside), it is fair to state that Jobs is a fairly strict practitioner of Buddhism. Yet statements such as these are merely conjecture.
 
I'm sure people predicted the death of Ford when Henry Ford died. And they keep making cars.

Actually, the zenith of Ford's company more or less coincided with his death. Same thing with Sam Walton, Thomas Edison, Walt Disney, etc. Sure, their companies didn't grind to a halt. They went on to have good years and bad years. But the big, explosive growth, the great breakthroughs, the vision - that all died with their founders. Every time.
 
Unless you've studied Buddhism, these are unfair assumptions.

As a vegetarian who wears the same black clothing (in Buddhism you cannot wear colors or clothing with any graphics/symbols in the Monastery or Zendo but are allowed outside), it is fair to state that Jobs is a fairly strict practitioner of Buddhism. Yet statements such as these are merely conjecture.

With that post I wasn't being serious, just to clear things up.
 
He is an old outdated designer

Everything is made from 1 block of Aluminum, all glass.
I actually think Apple should concentrate on seeding all of their computers with free iWorks and create loyalty. Instead of charging a premium for the expensive Aluminum solid bodies, software loyalty is long term. Right now Office is tired and bulky. iWorks is sleek but unknown. This is the time to move people into proprietary Apple software. Microsoft is concentrating in Office as Google is going to have free programs, so Microsoft has to prepare something special, so they are revisiting Office.

If Office 2015 is truly extraordinary and Microsoft does not give it to Apple, Apple Office users (90%) will drop the hardware and move to a PC.





The Sunday Times reports that Apple designer Jonathan Ive and the Apple's board of directors are said to be at an impasse about his future. The British designer is said to want to spend more time in the UK while Apple's board seems unwilling to allow that. The report comes by way of The Daily Mail and Cult of Mac as the original article appears to behind a paywall.

Ive has reportedly been tied to Apple for the past three years based on a "golden handcuffs" deal from 2008. That deal is reportedly due now and will net the designer £18 million. The completion of this deal seemed to open these negotiations with even the possibility of his leaving the company. Ive reportedly has proposed to commute from Somerset, but Apple's board seems unwilling. Jonathan Ive has long been credited for being the principle designer for many of Apple's iconic products. Ive joined Apple in 1992 and has been responsible for the design of the unibody MacBook Pro, iPod, iPhone and iPad. His name was even thrown around as a possible successor to Steve Jobs in 2007.

Article Link: Apple's Jonathan Ive Considering Moving Back to England?
 
I know some people that would beg to differ!

I would send you guys some...but....you're calling it candy. It's CHOCOLATE, with a honeycomb filling. :p

I don't think you can call anything that comes out of a Cadburys factory "chocolate" can you? - Honeycomb with a chocolate-like coating perhaps?
 
Everything is made from 1 block of Aluminum, all glass.
I actually think Apple should concentrate on seeding all of their computers with free iWorks and create loyalty. Instead of charging a premium for the expensive Aluminum solid bodies, software loyalty is long term. Right now Office is tired and bulky. iWorks is sleek but unknown. This is the time to move people into proprietary Apple software. Microsoft is concentrating in Office as Google is going to have free programs, so Microsoft has to prepare something special, so they are revisiting Office.

If Office 2015 is truly extraordinary and Microsoft does not give it to Apple, Apple Office users (90%) will drop the hardware and move to a PC.

Where do you get this stuff?
 
Agree

Will the creative process be more negatively impacted by Ive doing more telecommuting, Ive leaving the company, or Ive being resentful that Apple is strong-arming him into not spending more time in his home country?

Why not let Ive do what he wants to do w/the understanding that if the performance drops off he'll have to return to the States or give up his position at Apple? After so many years with Apple and being a key figure in the turning around of the company I think he's earned a little slack on his leash.


Lethal

the man has earned his position and reputation at Apple, they should let he let him do this. I like the stipulations LethalWolfe mentioned above. Ive is too important to let go: Apple should respect Ive's request and do any/everything to work with him.
 
A shake-up of things at apple wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. There is no doubt that Jony Ive has had some wonderful designs for Apple over the years. Lately though, he seems to have "boxed" himself in as it were. Theres only so many ways you can make rectangular aluminum boxes with rounded corners and have it stay fresh. When you commit to minimalism, you don't leave yourself a lot of room to experiment. We're seeing evolution of products in a design style thats 10 years old. Seeing apple take products in new directions would be refreshing.
 
America isn't the only country worth living in. With attitudes like this, it's no wonder Ive wants to go back home. :rolleyes:
If he really wants to go back to England (I can't imagine why he would) Apple needs to show him the door. He's never going to have it as good as he did with Apple. If he's so homesick let the momma's boy go home. His designs all look the same anyway.
 
"He is very valuable to us!"

"I want to work from the UK. We can do FaceTime, Cisco holographic videoconferencing, shared screens. Shouldn't be too bad."

"Unacceptable!! Fire that bastard!!"
 
I actually like this guy as a replacement for jobs, looks like the kind of guy you can have a pint with at the end of the day while the footy is on. :)
 
This guy might just be able to pull off being the next Steve Jobs. :p

They'd better start being nice to him.
 
I dont get why he cant jsut work it the UK? He's british and wants to go home, i dont blame him! He can still easily work for apple. I think apple are being a bit stupid saying that if he went to the UK they would have to 'let him go' seeign as he owns all of the intelectual property for ALL of the modern apple computers. You name it, he owns the rights for it. How are apple going to continue without any of there products seeing as Ive designed everything!? :)
 
I dont get why he cant jsut work it the UK? He's british and wants to go home, i dont blame him! He can still easily work for apple. I think apple are being a bit stupid saying that if he went to the UK they would have to 'let him go' seeign as he owns all of the intelectual property for ALL of the modern apple computers. You name it, he owns the rights for it. How are apple going to continue without any of there products seeing as Ive designed everything!? :)

ummm..i hardly think Ive's own anything he designs. He works for a company called Apple, Inc. Apple, Inc. owns all of the designs including Ives.

No company is that stupid to allow the designer to own the IP rights!
 
Just pick up and move Apple to the UK. Problem solved.

Apple, Inc. is an American based company. Forever will be. There will be no moving.

There's more to the story than what is reported...I'm sure he can fly back and forth if need be and visual conferencing to discuss matters is a no brainer especially for a hi-tech company like apple.

There's gotta be more to this...
 
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