Apple's Jony Ive Talks Apple Watch at SFMOMA Lifetime Achievement Award Ceremony

[MH01]

I think you're stretching a bit in terms of it's looks and it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. The Apple Watch doesn't need the aid of the iPhone to work the standard functions. You can go the whole day using it and leaving your iPhone at home.

I can also buy an iPhone and use it without the sim.

The apple watch needs an iPhone for full functionality , stop pretending otherwise !

The poster knows better than you that an iPhone is necessary if you intend to use it for more than a watch and a few basic functions!

 

[MH01]

Thanks for defending someone else without fully reading their post. He said the Apple Watch was "FORCE-TEATHERED" to the iPhone. That easily suggests that it can't be used at all without the iPhone.

says the person who is making up his own opinion about what force-teathered means to them. Reading your response easily suggests you have selective reading and comprehension ability. You failed at understanding what the word teathered meant.

 

[winston1236]

I think you're stretching a bit in terms of it's looks and it's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. The Apple Watch doesn't need the aid of the iPhone to work the standard functions. You can go the whole day using it and leaving your iPhone at home.

I know exactly what I'm talking about, thanks.

A product that can't operate fully by itself means that yes it is force tethered. Tell me why that when I go for a run I would want to bring both a phone and a watch?

I want a standalone watch (which I'm sure is a few years ahead in the pipeline) but unfortunately this one isn't it.

 

[A MacBook lover]

I know exactly what I'm talking about, thanks.

A product that can't operate fully by itself means that yes it is force tethered. Tell me why that when I go for a run I would want to bring both a phone and a watch?

I want a standalone watch (which I'm sure is a few years ahead in the pipeline) but unfortunately this one isn't it.

I just love people who judge by pictures and videos. If you want a standalone, get a jawbone or Fitbit. IF the Apple watch turns out to be great, I'll get that.

 

[Patriot24]

Thanks for defending someone else without fully reading their post. He said the Apple Watch was "FORCE-TEATHERED" to the iPhone. That easily suggests that it can't be used at all without the iPhone.

We can debate semantics all day long. The point is that without an iPhone the utility and functionality of the watch are greatly diminished. This is not debatable.

The level to which diminished functionality might matter to each individual user is subjective. You'll notice that I did not attack you for your opinion that using the watch sans the phone might be OK.

 

[winston1236]

I just love people who judge by pictures and videos. If you want a standalone, get a jawbone or Fitbit. IF the Apple watch turns out to be great, I'll get that.

Then buy all means buy it.

I'm commenting on my personal preference of a watch being a watch by itself.

 

[X38]

I agree. I think they're really going to hit a home run.

There is a lot yet to unfold. It is going to be an interesting ride.

I see three very serious problems for any smart watch:

1) Since the advent of ubiquitous cell phones, many people have given up wearing watches because they no longer need them and don't particularly care for having something strapped to their wrist. These kind of folks are inherently a disproportionate share of the market for any smart mobile device by definition.

2) Its unique benefits require wearing it continuously to be meaningful, especially during periods of elevated physical activity. But it is also an expensive piece of jewelry designed to be worn in a manner highly susceptible to wear and damage. How many people are really going to want to wear their expensive toy all the time while engaged in their favorite physical activities?

3) Like other smart screen mobile devices, it's primary benefits also require extended viewing. However, holding a device mounted on one's wrist in a viewable orientation quickly becomes uncomfortable. People are not going to be using this thing for email and web browsing, at least not without a lot of pain or taking it off their wrist all the time. Nor will it be useful for listening to either given that there is no practical means of routing earphones to it as can be done with a device carried in one's pockets or belt holder.

Home run? No chance. If they get really lucky, maybe they will at least not strike out and get a single. But there is no way that this is 'the next big thing'. Most likely scenario is that the Apple Watch will become the device that convinces the world to give up on the 'wearable' fad.

 

[Rocketdealer]

In the near future this will be a stand alone watch phone. For now it's a good start.


I welcome my self to the forum. #
Long looooong time reader btw, and I hope I can whine ass much ass everybody else. #

 

[Patriot24]

I see three very serious problems for any smart watch:

1) Since the advent of ubiquitous cell phones, many people have given up wearing watches because they no longer need them and don't particularly care for having something strapped to their wrist. These kind of folks are inherently a disproportionate share of the market for any smart mobile device by definition.

2) Its unique benefits require wearing it continuously to be meaningful, especially during periods of elevated physical activity. But it is also an expensive piece of jewelry designed to be worn in a manner highly susceptible to wear and damage. How many people are really going to want to wear their expensive toy all the time while engaged in their favorite physical activities?

3) Like other smart screen mobile devices, it's primary benefits also require extended viewing. However, holding a device mounted on one's wrist in a viewable orientation quickly becomes uncomfortable. People are not going to be using this thing for email and web browsing, at least not without a lot of pain or taking it off their wrist all the time. Nor will it be useful for listening to either given that there is no practical means of routing earphones to it as can be done with a device carried in one's pockets or belt holder.

Home run? No chance. If they get really lucky, maybe they will at least not strike out and get a single. But there is no way that this is 'the next big thing'. Most likely scenario is that the Apple Watch will become the device that convinces the world to give up on the 'wearable' fad.

I agree with points 1-3. I think that you've highlighted the major challenges that Apple faces. However, I don't view them as complete blockers to success.

I probably should put some context to "home run". To me, a home run in this scenario is that the Apple Watch quickly becomes accepted as the de facto standard for smart watches. I don't think that is unreasonable at all to expect. It will never be what the iPhone business is, but that doesn't mean it can't be very successful on its own accords.

By my estimation, Apple Pay is "the next big thing". We'll find out together in the coming years if wearable technology is a fad, but I think it is here to stay in one form or another.

 

[LordQ]

Is anyone else like really excited for this watch?! It's really unique and I'm looking forward to it.

I am!

However... It needs and iPhone 5 or higher in order to use and by the time I plan on changing my 4S to the 6S (September 2015), it will be almost time for the Apple Watch 2 to come (February 2016 -Assuming a February 2015 launch and yearly updates-) Oh boy...

 

[Laptopdog78]

A new stamp should be made for the back of Apple products........ Designed by the Englishman for Apple in California, Assembled in China!
Just saying, to bring a few Americans back down to Earth who go on and on about Apple being Americas brilliance.
Yes, Jobs needed Johny Ive.

 

[Tom-Create-Pro]

Wasn't excited for this originally, but it gets more and more interesting every time I hear about it.

 

[ucantgetridofme]

Considering many people pay upwards of $1000 for a device that is a timepiece only, I don't think this is much of an issue.

Many of us on here paid well over $350 as recently as 2003 for a basic iPod.

That's not saying much for many of you

 

[gugy]

Kind of feel the same way. The lack of gps even ruined the true sports experience as well

Add to this the waterproof issue. I was looking for a swimming/water sports tracker on the watch and I will hold off until Apple fix this.
I wish they made a band so I could use alongside my Omega.

 

[Jakexb]

I think it's going to be one of those things that seem infinitely cooler when you see it in person. I had a similar experience with the original iPhone. The demo seemed *sort of* cool, but to see it in person and to touch the screen was a different thing altogether.

It's hard to say if I'll try to get a version 1 watch. I was *so* psyched about all the medical sensor people they've been hiring. I have a feeling version 2 of the watch is going to step up the sensor game pretty significantly.

 

[robeddie]

... it gets more and more interesting every time I hear about it.

Not sure why.

 

[Nabooly]

I came here with the sole purpose of seeing some hilarious Jony Ive "quotes".

 

[Piggie]

i'm sure the first redesign will be much better.

It scares me that some people here seem to think this design is going to not change for perhaps decades

Not scares me, in that I don't think it will change, of course it will.
It scares me that some people have so little imagination.

 

[Macs4u]

What a load of indulgent rubbish. NOBODY thinks of historical and cultural crap when they buy technology. They look at it , see if they like what it does, see if its affordable and then buy it if so. I think he just likes to hear himself speak and babble on with this psychological mumbo jumbo.

Really, its just desire and price , thats it!

 

[rsocal]

Is anyone else like really excited for this watch?! It's really unique and I'm looking forward to it.

Yes, I am!

I don't know if a lot of people feel it's a big deal yet? My thinking, it's just like the first iPhone, after it's announcement people and critics said no way, it's DOA, a gimmick and so on.

I myself was a skeptical of the first iPhone, luckily my wife felt it was going to be a game changer and waited in line on release day. That was the beginning of my iPhone addiction!

Already an Apple fan & user, I couldn't believe how cool it was! From the minute I ported over, I was hooked!

I hope the Apple watch can give me that same excitement, not sure it will but I'm optimistic!

Apple Watch may struggle, I believe some people & critics will expect to much at first! It'll take some time, but at the very least, it's going to be a great health accessory!

It'll eventually be very cool & useful as the developers get their hands on it.
My only real concern is battery life, for me a day is fine. But the critics will never be happy with just a day, even a first design!

 

[enigma2118]

 

[BJonson]

The Apple watch without an iPhone is just a nano with a watch band.

 

[daftpunker909]

Kind of feel the same way. The lack of gps even ruined the true sports experience as well

There is no GPS in the watch? Wow, I didn't know about that. So when you're running you need your watch + your phone? How pointless

 

[kemal]

Apple are positioning the watch to two markets. Technophiles can afford the aluminum one.

The others are for those who wear a watch as fashion. A mechanical watch for these customers costs more to maintain than an Apple watch to buy. Except in gold.

 

[Born Again]

Is it just me or is the giant Jony head a little 1984ish?

He's so full of himself

Basically had one good design that is just continually hacked.

Unapologetically plastic . That's the bs that spews out of his mouth.

The iWatch is hideous .

He has too many Yes men around him.

He can do better!!!

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There is no GPS in the watch? Wow, I didn't know about that. So when you're running you need your watch + your phone? How pointless

It's unapologetically silly that there is no gps

It's for apple fans really

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Yes, I am!

I don't know if a lot of people feel it's a big deal yet? My thinking, it's just like the first iPhone, after it's announcement people and critics said no way, it's DOA, a gimmick and so on.

I myself was a skeptical of the first iPhone, luckily my wife felt it was going to be a game changer and waited in line on release day. That was the beginning of my iPhone addiction!

Already an Apple fan & user, I couldn't believe how cool it was! From the minute I ported over, I was hooked!

I hope the Apple watch can give me that same excitement, not sure it will but I'm optimistic!

Apple Watch may struggle, I believe some people & critics will expect to much at first! It'll take some time, but at the very least, it's going to be a great health accessory!

It'll eventually be very cool & useful as the developers get their hands on it.
My only real concern is battery life, for me a day is fine. But the critics will never be happy with just a day, even a first design!

What do u want the watch to do for you?