No one skins them alive. Where do you people get this stuff from?
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Apple's Leather-Alternative iPhone 15 Cases Said to Have Different Texture
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You are correct on some things, but don't forget there are times in history where Hindu's sacrificed cows and ate their meat. The modern reverence to cattle is more because if you own a cow you are considered wealthy in many parts of India. That's what I was told from several different people I've worked with and became confortable talking to about the subject over the years. (Yikes, doing the math it's decades now. 😣)
There isn’t any, in my view, none whatsoever. Only unstable evil oxygen thief’s do such things.
Your post does not make the point you think it’s making. Apple sources its (real) leather from Italy.
I’m not a fan of Apple cases in general. They don’t seem to hold up well.
And yet people still eat cow meat in India. Not everyone there is a fundamentalist Hindu, and like many religions some Hindus in name only eat cow meat… 😉
It all needs to be waterproofed and in order to do that they use plastic, even Pinatex. Not every vegan leather is suitable for tougher applications like a phone case.
Unfortunately it’s a very common practice outside the EU and US. Not cows obviously.
Please provide proof that it’s a very common practice outside the EU & US to skin animals alive to get their hide (not fur). Aside from that, this discussion has been about Apple Cow Leather Cases where the leather is sourced from the EU. Thanks!
Because it's the single most destructive thing we're doing to the environment, and there's no way our planet can sustain it. Not to mention that animals have emotions and feel pain. Or that eating them is terrible for your health.
It's willful ignorance to say that the dead animal on your plate was not tortured on its way there. They're raped, mutilated, held against their will in inhumane conditions, pushed through a slaughterhouse, and then electrocuted or gassed and ultimately dismembered... frequently while still alive.
Prove it please. Random statements of supposed facts just makes people stupid IMHO.
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In the event that there will be only one 6.7-inch iPhone, the name will be 15 Pro Max according with Apple Partner OtterBox
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I'm not delusional enough to think that a forum post will prove or convince anybody of anything. To truly be convinced, you have to do the research yourself. If you're curious, you can find a lot of information out there. A few great movies that are good starting points: The Gamechangers, Earthlings, Dominion, A Life on Our Planet, What the Health?, Forks Over Knives...
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An updated schematics of the new iPhone 15 similar leather series of cases show new colors. It has also been reported that it will be a material similar to polishing cloth, the feeling seems to be very similar.
Source: Majin Bu
That’s not proof. What you take away from movies (entertainment) is speculation. If one makes a statement as a fact “cows are the worst polluters of all to environmental warming” prove it with a link to a scientific paper that makes that argument and in essence proves it. Otherwise just say that it’s your opinion… Opinions ≠ Facts. 🐮
They don’t look like they will wear well from this photo and I prefer to have a seamless exterior. The price Apple charges for their premium case offering might be difficult for this item.
I guess I am one of the few people who ask why we need a case at all. If Apple designed them so that they did not self destruct when dropped, a case would not be necessary. If the cases have a texture they will pick up dirt very easily and look pretty grubby after a relatively short time.
However I resent having to buy a case to make the phone survive in our normal world. Screen protectors and cases are de rigor these days and only because the phones are very badly designed. We see beautiful rendered pictures of a phone we will never see, because the moment you drop it, it ceases to function. So we protect it.
Just give me a phone that works as it is in the normal world and let me decide whether I want to change its appearance rather than you have to change its appearance in order to use it. I do not remember having to put my Motorola Razer into a case. It survived the normal rigors of use, something that cannot be said of the iPhone and other phones like the Samsung Galaxy S23 series. I find this extremely frustrating and counter intuitive.
However I resent having to buy a case to make the phone survive in our normal world. Screen protectors and cases are de rigor these days and only because the phones are very badly designed. We see beautiful rendered pictures of a phone we will never see, because the moment you drop it, it ceases to function. So we protect it.
Just give me a phone that works as it is in the normal world and let me decide whether I want to change its appearance rather than you have to change its appearance in order to use it. I do not remember having to put my Motorola Razer into a case. It survived the normal rigors of use, something that cannot be said of the iPhone and other phones like the Samsung Galaxy S23 series. I find this extremely frustrating and counter intuitive.
What are your issues with the build quality of the iPhone? I've seen plenty of people with shattered screens, shattered camera glass, messed up sides and their phone still functions. The iPhone actually has one of the best screen and digitizers and this has been tested in proven. I've seen people bring phones into apple, best buy, ubreakifix, etc that are completely destroying but the touch screen is working fine and they put a cheap plastic screen protector over it and kept using it until they had the money to replace the screen.
You dont have to use a case with an iPhone, especially the latest ones with the stainless steel band and sapphire infused screen. Plenty of people on these forums are anti case and almost anti screen protector and im sure they phones look like new.
Ive had no case on several of my iPhones for pretty much their entire life and they all held up well. The only thing I will always put on my phone is a glass screen protector because I like to keep my screen clean AND since I put my phone face down, I dont trust whatever surface im putting my phone on and would rather have a .02-.03mm glass screen protector on it.
I am not really criticizing the quality of the iPhone so much as its design, which, to me, is a different issue. The iPhone is very well built but the design is intrinsically flawed for the use case and building from glass front and back with polished aluminum or stainless steel chassis means that it is very easily damaged as delivered to the customer. This is a device that spends its life in your hand or pocket or purse and is easily dropped (as demonstrated by at least two of our close friends who regularly put them down on a table, knock them off and have to make a trip to Apple to replace the screen since it is smashed, not just cracked: we live in Austin, TX where houses often have tile floors!!).
I tend to compare it to my cameras. I have 3 high end cameras that are provided with strap lugs and a camera strap so that they can be carried safely. And even if dropped (and I have dropped them onto rocks, knocked tripods over, dropped them into rivers etc.), they tend to survive quite well, without a case as they are designed for environment in which they work. The only environment they are not designed for is underwater and they make that clear. And the manufacturer provides a way to carry the camera safely, not so for the iPhone.
So my biggest beef here is that although the iPhone can possibly survive (possibly functionally but not aesthetically) a drop to the ground, screens get cracked or smashed, the beautiful polished or finished frame gets scuffed and gouged very easily. I can usually sell my cameras after 3 to 5 years of hard use, but if I did not put a case on my iPhone and screen protector it would be worthless in a very short time, although I am very careful.
I guess that if you are not bothered what it looks like and can live with a cracked screen etc. my point is moot, but I believe that Apple should either provide a case with the phone (like a camera strap for a camera) and style the whole thing as an entity or try and design one that does not need a case and will survive the usage. I am an engineer so I know that this last suggestion is not easy, but that is what they do for a living.
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