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Apple's M1 Chip Brings Massive Battery Life Improvements for MacBook Air and MacBook Pro

ingambe said:
Unfortunately because of the low RAM it's a now for me this year
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I get it that you mean it's a no for you.
But...I keep thinking that you will buy the mac because it has low RAM with "now" instead of "no".

Pardon my grammar nazi. 😁
 
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rafark said:
The only thing I’m worried about is longevity. These Macs don’t seem to be upgradable in any way and I wonder how good they will perform in 5 or 10 years.

I own a 2008 iMac and still works kind of fine to this day. My A4 iPod is no longer usable.
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Should've stuck with the bomb proof iPod Classic ;)
 
macagain said:
So, the only things that make the Pro a Pro are the touchbar and more weight? I can't imagine someone saying, yeah I really want a touchbar and I'm willing to pay $300 for it... and I really prefer a heavier laptop.:rolleyes:
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No. Why do people keep saying this? The M1 may be the same chip but it will be able to operate much faster for longer periods of time with the fan in the Pro. Also, the screen, battery, speakers, mic, and charger are much better on the Pro as well. It takes all of 15 seconds to figure this our for yourself.
 
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Return Zero said:
Several multiples faster and almost twice the battery life at the same price, yet it seems like all I see are complaints about longevity and upgradability... some people will literally never be happy, and it's 100% by their own choice.
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and questioning longevity/upgradability is a bad thing because....?
 
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My problem is that I'll never enjoy seeing a movie at less than 100% brightness—even in a dark room, it turns to mud. What's the battery life with that?
 
macsrcool1234 said:
and questioning longevity/upgradability is a bad thing because....?
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Because...

- This is a post/thread about massive battery life improvements. More battery life means longer charge cycles means greater battery longevity.
- If you're going slightly off topic and talking about the processor, this machine will have far more longevity than any Mac sold with an intel processor, no question about it.
- Nothing from what I can tell changed in terms of upgradability from the previous version, so why bring up the question in regards to these new models at all? It's an age old debate. There are lots of posts on MR debating soldered components, repairability, etc.
 
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ingambe said:
Unfortunately because of the low RAM it's a now for me this year
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It's not low RAM with the efficiency of Big Sur (which is more or less now a tuned, jacked up iPad OS with real usability).

Apple's controlling the whole stack, hardware to software. 16 GB of a system made entirely efficient is 32 GB of a system needing disparate parts.

These are the entry level Macs making a leap in performance. I'm curious, in a good way, about what will be announced in 2021.
 
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iamasmith said:
Looks like very limited RAM options with the unified memory if I read it correctly as part of the SOC.

Excellent for compute workloads but lacking the choice, particularly at the moment, to expand it ourselves.

It will be really interesting to see how they approach the more user upgradeable market i.e. the 27" iMac (probably will go) and the Mac Pro.
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How do you expand RAM yourself in current MBAs and MBPs?
 
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mrhick01 said:
It's not low RAM with the efficiency of Big Sur (which is more or less now a tuned, jacked up iPad OS with real usability).

Apple's controlling the whole stack, hardware to software. 16 GB of a system made entirely efficient is 32 GB of a system needing disparate parts.

These are the entry level Macs making a leap in performance. I'm curious, in a good way, about what will be announced in 2021.
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Lol. That’s hilarious.
 
rafark said:
The only thing I’m worried about is longevity. These Macs don’t seem to be upgradable in any way and I wonder how good they will perform in 5 or 10 years.

I own a 2008 iMac and still works kind of fine to this day. My A4 iPod is no longer usable.
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People who build there own computers and want a user customizable features do not buy Macs.
95% of the computer users browse Social Media, YouTube, edit family videos & photos. Last time I check your you computer does not self destruct after 10 years. No fans in the Air and battery battery perforce i going to make the batteries in these machines last even longer over the years of battery cycles.
 
ingambe said:
Unfortunately because of the low RAM it's a now for me this year
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The RAM is upgradable to 16gb. If you’re running Docker, Windows or video compositing that may be a little on the low side but even then it’s enough for most people.
 
I have poor luck with first gen Apple products so I will wait this out but I can’t wait until the reviewers put these machines through its paces.
 
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T-R-S said:
People who build there own computers and want a user customizable features do not buy Macs.
95% of the computer users browse Social Media, YouTube, edit family videos & photos. Last time I check your you computer does not self destruct after 10 years. No fans in the Air and battery battery perforce i going to make the batteries in these machines last even longer over the years of battery cycles.
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I've built my own computers since the 90's and I own a Mac. I wish Apple would release something more modular. I'm sure I'm not the only one.
 
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dinobear said:
That's all they've done really. The performance gains against the 8th intel and integrated graphics isn't all that impressive. It's good, but not amazing. Battery life is the major thing that these new machines really have going for them.
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500% and 300% increase in graphics and performance respectively is just good for you? that kind of leap in silicon technology is unprecedented in the history of chip making. that is practically wizardry given how much less power the M1 chip consumes when compared to the competition. and nevermind the 1100% increase in machine learning performance.
 
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rafark said:
The only thing I’m worried about is longevity. These Macs don’t seem to be upgradable in any way and I wonder how good they will perform in 5 or 10 years.

I own a 2008 iMac and still works kind of fine to this day. My A4 iPod is no longer usable.
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10 years? What are you talking about? No laptop is going to last that long with good performance. If you're talking about "just working" then my MacBook Pro from 2009 which I did not upgrade in any way also still works and these new MacBooks will also work in 11 years, but the performance won't be great.
 
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Looking to see real life performance out of these - in the wild. It's no secret the iPad Pro can export videos in record time.. lets see what this chip can do first. I have a feeling it's going to be better then expected - Apple would not release something that gets blown out of the water by the current intel chips after making all of these claims.
 
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I hope M1 equipped MBP no longer sounds like airplane anymore when connected to 4k/5k displays, since Apple confidently shows running fine with 6K XDR.
 
bklement said:
Data is data, if you need it in the ram, then you need it in the ram, no way around it without serious performance drawbacks, and there are situations you simply can't do that.
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the people who bought MB Airs before will be happy as will those who bought the entry level Pro before ...
the folks you are talking about will get they new Macs next year ...
Where Apple is starting with this transition, and the target audience - makes total sense
 
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