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But some still won’t buy them if they come with a white bezel. 😁

Their loss.

Skins have been available for prior imacs for a while now and I bet they'll be available for the 24" models in short order.

 
I'm looking forward to seeing the M-chips that go with discrete GPUs. Will they still have integrated graphics and switch between iGPU and dGPU based on workload and power a la the current MacBook Pros?

Or are we about to seeing some GPU-less M-chips that go all in on CPU performance? Exciting times!
 
It is so interesting to read the various posts about the "low end M1" and the "beast M2" - that low end processor already beats the Core-i9 in the top end MacBook Pro 16 in many tests. How does that EVER count as low end? They can safely leave the "low end" of their existing lines there until Summer/Fall 2022.

The transition to M2 on the MBP 14/16 this Summer/Fall is going to be mind blowing (especially for Intel) and my bet is they cap it off in Spring 2022 with an M2X for the new Mac Pro to conclude their transition to Apple Silicon. These have to be dismal times for Intel and AMD. Sure explains the relentless and basically dishonest Intel/Microsoft ads trying to support Wintel machines (one of which I am writing this post on). Hopefully future posts will come from my MBP 14 in a few months...
 
So many people will be disappointed they 'didn't wait' when this appears.
Meh. Writing this on on my M1 MacBookAir. Hadn't been in the market for an air for years. But the fact that this blows away the Dell XPS I had been using for three years sold it to me.

The wife's Lenovo just up and died. (As they do these days, *sigh*.) And the only question I have for myself is should we buy another M1 now, or give her my M1 and in (3? 4?) months, get a new MBPro for myself with graphics power for... a ($500?) upgrade? (Optimistic?)

Or if it's twice as much money as an Air, maybe I'd be better off using the same money to get another Air and a better desktop.

There is a math in waiting for the next upgrade. But it depends on your need.
 
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I wonder how many more cores they will get in m2? I’m assuming the only way to pack more cores is to expand the dye or go to smaller nm processing
 
But some still won’t buy them if they come with a white bezel. 😁
Not to beat this horse again, but I saw a Photoshop of the new iMac with a black bezel and the thing looked so, so much nicer. I really dislike the pastels on the front, but even they looked pretty good with the black bezel. Everything just popped. I really think now that the problem most people have is this exact issue: the pastels + the white bezel don’t offer enough contrast. I do think they will look much, much better to people when seen in person, though.
 
I'm looking forward to seeing the M-chips that go with discrete GPUs. Will they still have integrated graphics and switch between iGPU and dGPU based on workload and power a la the current MacBook Pros?

Or are we about to seeing some GPU-less M-chips that go all in on CPU performance? Exciting times!
Why do you want discrete GPU? Because of performance? If yes, consider new xbox chip, it is basically same as apple silicone M1, system on chip, just more GPU cores, more memory controllers. I would expect that apple will go this route. Maybe, chiplets in future.
 
Not to beat this horse again, but I saw a Photoshop of the new iMac with a black bezel and the thing looked so, so much nicer. I really dislike the pastels on the front, but even they looked pretty good with the black bezel. Everything just popped. I really think now that the problem most people have is this exact issue: the pastels + the white bezel don’t offer enough contrast. I do think they will look much, much better to people when seen in person, though.
Yes, it is a beaten horse.

But the question is whether that is enough of a dealbreaker that would prevent you from buying one...even if it had a wicked fast M2 chip?
 
What do you mean by "bigger version"?

If you're talking about a 14" display - perhaps someday if/when Apple stops making a two port 13.3" Macbook Pro. It's improbable that they'd tier a MBA model above an MBP model.

As for a 16" display Air? I don't think you'll ever see such a thing.
So MacBook Air only comes in one size traditionally and it’s always the smallest version?
 
I think the M2 will be 8 high-performance CPU cores, 4 high-efficiency CPU cores, the 16-core Neural Engine and 16 GPU cores, all linked to 16, 32 or possibly 64 GB of system RAM. That type of power would make you wonder if you need a separate GPU unless you have extremely specialized apps.
 
It's not the M2. The M2 will be based on the A15 and won't ramp up production until after iPhone season, just like last year.

If there is something in production now, then it is an M1 variant (M1X) destined for a July product launch, probably the MacBook Pros.
 
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Basse iMac as a workstaton? Hahahah. No on in their right minds would do that, and if they did, this new one is a better option for that,
Yes, the new one is not capable. The intel ones are configurable with 32 gb (or 64?) ram.
It’s an upgrade to the original - its very simple.
I am not comparing it to the original. Just like everyone did complain about minimal Air-Pro separation when they came out with m1. It's very simple.
 
Why?

If it does what a family needs for their "family computer" and they're willing to pay the premium for the 24" 4.5K DCI-P3 display and macOS, why would it be a laughing stock?
They can get macos with better internals for less though if they don't board the pixel hype train.
 
Would love to hear a use case where it is easier to pull a card out of a camera, wiggle it into a slot on the back of my Mac (or side), copy the photos off it, then pull the card out and push it back into my camera... vs plugging in a USB C cable.

Using a card reader doesn't require the camera to use any battery power. Ingestion can be done while the camera has another card in it and is taking more pictures. Different cameras have different USB interfaces: does it present the card like an external storage device so you can just access the files, or does it use the PTP protocol meaning you have to use software that supports PTP to import.
 
That was quick, I was expecting M2 next year and the M1X this year? I wonder what the core count and GPU will be?

MacBook Pro for Oct then and maybe the fabled 30+" iMac.
The rumor has no idea what chip architecture it is. It says tentatively known as M2, in other words, just making it up because they don't know what else to call it.

Clearly it is an M1 variant meant for the Pro machines.
 
Well, I doubt that. M1 = A14 variant which was released 2 months after iPhone
M2 = A15 variant so will most likely be released around the same time.

Apple will want to have it around similar schedule as iPhones as there would be no logic to have iPhone get A15 and then Mac would have to wait a long time. Nah, I don't see it like that.
In fact, if anything, as mac is more demanding I could see that Mac will get it first around summer (wwdc or so) and iPhone just 2 or so months later.



Apple just announced the iMac with the M1 processor. It makes no sense to release an M2 processor in the next months.

The upcoming processor is likely not the M2, but the "pro" version of the M1. The M1 "pro" (or M1X) will likely be based on the same core architecture but will feature more cores and maybe even a slightly faster clock speed.

The actual M2, the one that is going to be based on the next core architecture, is likely to be introduced in 2022.

I expect Apple to introduce a new architecture every even year and release the corresponding pro version on odd years.

It will likely turn out to be something like this:

2020: M1
2021: M1X
2022: M2
2023: M2X

and so on.
 
This thing is NOT going to be called M2. It’s NOT a successor to the M1. It’s a higher end model of the M1 generation.

People have been saying M1X and that’s just wild guess, but at least it makes sense compared to M2. Stop calling it that, it just confuses M1 owners as if their Mac will suddenly be obsolete even though this chip is not going to go into their M1 computers ever, much less in the near future.
 
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Are they gonna skip M1X altogether? With this news it seems like that. It can be result of silicon shortages and decision to wait a bit and go forward with M2 right away. Let see at WWDC.

But they would leak a lot about A15 this way I guess on other side.
No. It’s just a random name they made up. It makes zero sense than a new generation of CPU and GPU would come out so soon and debut on the Mac instead of the iPhone in September/October. Not gonna happen.
 
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