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These new machines are going to scream! The best part is Apple has found a feature that Samsung/Microsoft can’t ripoff overnight — the competition will be playing catch-up for years based on how well these chips are performing.
 
This is super early! Btw, I don’t believe it’s a M2, it’s just like a M1X for the MBP 16”, 14” and maybe iMac pro. Maybe 12 cores? This chip must support more than 16gb of ram and more than one 6k monitor.

The pro Macs are not going to have chips based on last years A14 like the M1 when the A15 is out in September. This chip is the 2nd gen (tock) 5nm design of which the A15 will be a 6 core (2 big, 4 little) variant. While the M-whatever will be cores a plenty.
 
I suspect the M1 will stay in the Mac mini for a few years before APPLE decides to update it.
Don't think so
The current design of the Mac mini is a huge waste of space, the case was thought for an Intel processor, not for the M1
Apple could reduce the case, which would be cheaper to produce/ship and store ==> more $$
Also, this way the Mac mini would be very mini.
 
They can get macos with better internals for less though if they don't board the pixel hype train.

Define "better" though.

For a bunch of folks there's substantial value in simplicity of choosing an AIO system, and they're willing to pay for that.

You likely don't fit into that market segment. I don't either. Yet I know folks who do.
 
Apple's biggest challenge will be "how to sell" M2 Macs in a world where there was alot of Pull Forward demand this past year, due to covid & Gov't stimulus.
 
Apple's biggest challenge will be "how to sell" M2 Macs in a world where there was alot of Pull Forward demand this past year, due to covid & Gov't stimulus.
Apple's biggest challenge will be to meet the demand
These computers are selling like hot cake
My wife had to wait 1 month to get a base M1 Macbook Air
 
Well, I doubt that. M1 = A14 variant which was released 2 months after iPhone
M2 = A15 variant so will most likely be released around the same time.

Apple will want to have it around similar schedule as iPhones as there would be no logic to have iPhone get A15 and then Mac would have to wait a long time. Nah, I don't see it like that.
In fact, if anything, as mac is more demanding I could see that Mac will get it first around summer (wwdc or so) and iPhone just 2 or so months later.
The M1 is not a rebadged A14. It's a rebadged A14X.

If you look at that SOC series, you will notice that Apple only made the A10X, the A12X/Z and the A14X (M1). Apple has been skipping odd numbered architectures for a while (the last one being the A9X launched in 2015). Expect the M series to follow the same pattern, with M2 processor coming out in 2022 as a "rebadged" A16X.

This year we will likely "only" get the pro version of the M1 (M1X).
 
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The M1 is not a rebadged A14. It's a rebadged A14X.

If you look at that SOC series, you will notice that Apple only made the A10X, the A12X/Z and the A14X (M1). Apple has been skipping odd numbered architectures for a while. Expect the M series to be the same, as the next M2 processor will be a "rebadged" A16X.
There's also the A5X, A6X, A8X and A9X.
 
I don’t think it will be called the M2. If higher number = more powerful (rather than “next generation” as higher numbers currently signify in most Apple
products), does that mean the M1 successor will be called the M1 II?
 
If it comes with a 8 cores M2, it will be extremely disappointing! Wasn’t it supposed to come with a M1X (with more cores)?
Let’s hope it isn’t the M2
Why will it be disappointing? Number of cores doesn’t matter in most circumstances, performance does. If the performance with 8 cores isn’t actually enough for what people do, fine, more cores is great. But unless you’ve tried out the M1 and it couldn’t cut it, it’s really just spec porn to want more at this point.
 
Good. Apple shouldn't have put M1 in the 24" iMac and iPad Pro. It's like reusing a old chip. They used the same chip to launch products at two different times. After the MacBook Air, Pro, and mini in Nov 2020, they should move on to M2 immediately.
Why not? Does the M1 not perform well enough in those products? So what if it’s been used in other products. If it does the job it’s fine. Novelty for novelties sake is a waste.
 
I don't think that's how the numbering will pan out.

My money is on:

  • for 2021, they either announce a family of M2L, M2, M2X (or similar). The redesigned MacBook Air can then go to the new L CPU. The bigger iMac and bigger MacBooks Pro can go to the X. Or they only introduce an M2 for now, and it's only used for the bigger computers, and the existing ones stay on the M1 for a little longer.
  • for 2022, we get the M3L, M2 and M3X. I'm not quite sure what they'll do with the Mac Pro. M3Z?
Apologies - I really didn't think about the naming: that's not very relevant to my needs. I was merely describing how within 18 months, they could complete the transition providing SoCs at the 3 levels consumers expect. I'm also reasonably sure that Apple will look to move away from separate GPUs (hence I haven't described that). I do think RAM and storage will need to be upgradeable at the higher end: even if the components are only available from Apple.
 
This is super early! Btw, I don’t believe it’s a M2, it’s just like a M1X for the MBP 16”, 14” and maybe iMac pro. Maybe 12 cores? This chip must support more than 16gb of ram and more than one 6k monitor.
Is it though?
The article mentions the chips being ready in July. Now it has to be shipped to another factory where they have to be put into computers (most likely 2-3 month process) and then distributed across the world. I think it is just in time for late Q3 event or early Q4.
 
Yes, it is a beaten horse.

But the question is whether that is enough of a dealbreaker that would prevent you from buying one...even if it had a wicked fast M2 chip?
My 2015 Macbook Air has a black bezel. Self adhesive plastic, bought it off Ebay for about £5. Best thing I ever did. I'm sure they will be available for the iMac as soon as someone has one to measure up.
 
There's also the A5X, A6X, A8X and A9X.
Correct. My point is that in recent years a pattern emerged with Apple skipping the A11X and A13X. It's likely Apple will skip the "A15X" as well and the M2 processor will debut in 2022 as a rebadged A16X.
 
I don't see this as a downer for M1 owners. Are we forgetting how fast these M1s are? My M1 MBA continues to be the best Mac User Experience in YEARS. I happily welcome a more powerful M2 MBP or iMac Pro or whatever they put it in for those needing even more POWER. I don't think the M1 should vanish for quite some time. Keep putting it in things and keep those prices down. It's still a game changer!
 
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Don't understand all the, "it can't be an M2" comments. Why? Why wouldn't they have a higher Mx in the more powerful machines? Guess what, they could easily have come out with the M1 for their more entry level "base" machines, and then come out with an M2 that goes in the 16" MBP, a larger iMac, etc. They could even release an M3 (or figure out how to allow multiple CPUs) that goes in a Mac Pro, and have all three processors selling at the same time.

When it is time to upgrade the Air, Mini, base iMac, etc. they could role the M2 down to it, clock it down or turn off cores as needed, etc. and role the M3 into the upgraded higher end machines.

Their iDevices don't always get the newest processor and they sell three generations of processors at the same time in the iPhones. Want the fastest iPhone, get the 12 with an A14, OK with medium, 11 with an A13, don't need as much performance, XR with the A12. Same thing happens in the iPads, need speed, get the Pro with the M1, medium, Air with A14, just need a tablet, get the iPad with an A12.

Heck, you can buy an AppleTV with two different processors right now. 4K is now an A12, HD is A8.

There is NOTHING that says they have to have the same M version in all their computers. It doesn't have to be an M1 base machines, M1X more powerful computers and M1XXXXXX-Mostest Superest in the Mac Pro.
 
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So: MacMini - choice of M1 or M2. MBA - only M1, because it is only entry level. MBP
At first I thought you were crazy to suggest this, but then I remembered that the mini hasn't been redesigned yet. It's definitely in the realm of the possible in that case, and lets Apple squeeze out additional revenue from that form factor. In hindsight,"multiple screens" makes a lot of sense as a distinguish characteristic to segment your users along. If you're willing to have two or more giant screens you're also likely willing to buy the bigger processor, even though you shouldn't need a bigger processor to handle two screens. At the same time, not having multiple screen support in the M1 means less chance of it lagging while serving a second screen or airplay.
 
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