Most of the time that is just technically IMPOSSIBLE to do. Even in the imaginary world where it is technically possible to do, it is normally economically inappropriate. Constantly adjusting the production volume will cause the production cost to skyrocket, since the equipment purchasing, the factory building ( & tearing apart ) and the initial labor hiring (laying off) will all cost a lot.
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Apple's Mac Pro Shipping Estimates Slip to April in Many Countries
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Most of the time that is just technically IMPOSSIBLE to do. Even in the imaginary world where it is technically possible to do, it is normally economically inappropriate. Constantly adjusting the production volume will cause the production cost to skyrocket, since the equipment purchasing, the factory building ( & tearing apart ) and the initial labor hiring (laying off) will all cost a lot.
Given some hands on reviews dropped a week later ..... That is still in the "initial" phase. Even into January there probably was not a broad sampling of users ordering. If looking at it as some singular point in time, but the product is going to be the "current one" for at 10 months. Could be as long as 13 if Xeon E5 v3 slides. It wasn't really till end of January until go to the "end of the beginning" (as Churchill would have put it. )
Likewise there were also some folks who buy in Mac Pros in larger numbers who are going to buy 1-2 just to do their own "hands on" review on their specific software and data.
"Post spike" would indication there has been a significant drop off in new demand. That doesn't look to be the case. The range and number of reviews that some folks were looking for would go past the initial "Isn't this cool, high level sniff tests" that went out.
Even the reviews have had hiccups.
http://arstechnica.com/apple/2014/0...d700-opengl-is-better-than-we-thought-it-was/
IHMO the Mac Pro would target 6+ months after a new OS X rollout so could be on 10.x.3 or so so that don't have wobbly new OS mixed in with new hardware. If going to slide the new Mac Pro into a production critical set up.... even if the hardware was OK , flakey software will keep it out of the loop.
while a high fraction of Mac Pro were probably always CTO, I think the spreadsheet is sampling from a skewed population. Additionally, some of the high CTO is because don't have as many options right now either. Conceptually the SSD could be done 3rd party but probably won't see any until Summer.
Its not the American Factory thats the problem. Motorola has no problems keeping up with the demand for the Moto X and it has been selling pretty well as of lately. Also companies like Ford, etc. have been manufacturing much more complicated things to assemble in the US for years and don't have issues either.
Apple has failed the pro market several times the past few years. This is just another nail in the coffin. The professional market doesn't care about the fancy form factor of the new Mac Pro, but they do care about the obvious production yield issues it has caused and the inflated price performance ratio it has added as well.
Professionals would have been fine with downsizing the case as it was oversized. However this form factor would have been a more appropriate replacement.
Or this if they wanted to go smaller.
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Well is a relative term. If it were an iPhone, it would be selling horribly.
The Mac Pro isn't having yield issues. They simply released it before they built up enough channel inventory because they wanted to "launch" in 2013. What we're seeing now is an example of why Apple generally tries to avoid doing that. Normally they go into production months before a product launch. That didn't happen this time.
The usual suspects hating US production. They pop out of the ground to chirp like insects after a flood.
Either way you still can't walk into an Apple Store and buy one which was the main point. It's just effing ridiculous. How can they possibly get their supply/demand equations so wrong time after time.
What a crock. As an american worker myself the only thing the law mandates is a 30 min lunch other than that, there is no other mandate. I currently work 14 hour days at my job.
As for foxconn people in china seek them out and wait in huge lines to get jobs there, because there some of the highest paid jobs for factory workers in the country. There are no slaves at foxconn even though your warped and twisted views would like to think so.
Exactly nothing slipped. Its always been shipping two months out from order.
I ordered mine on december 19th and was given february as the shipping month.
Now that it is February, the shipping month is march. So there shipping time is staying the same. It is just not catching up with demand but staying even with demand.
No news here move along.
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Oh bs.
There shipping times are staying the same.
be specific...what manufacturing issues?
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you sound like a new guy to me. If you looked back in dec 2013, ship date was january... when ordered on feb, it was march....even now..it said when ordered on feb..it is being shipped april....what say you? huh?
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nope..got my stuff within a MONTH.
Just made it...
If anyone is curious.. I ordered my Mac Pro within 5 minutes of the store re-opening on the 19th.. (4:35am if you were wondering).
My computer finally shipped on Jan 31... and arrived on the 4th.
Apple sort of made their 'Ships January' statement.
My BTO was:
6 Core, 16GB Ram, 256GB, D700
If anyone is curious.. I ordered my Mac Pro within 5 minutes of the store re-opening on the 19th.. (4:35am if you were wondering).
My computer finally shipped on Jan 31... and arrived on the 4th.
Apple sort of made their 'Ships January' statement.
My BTO was:
6 Core, 16GB Ram, 256GB, D700
While it looks like the Yanks can't keep up, remember there's a pent-up demand for this thing with lots of MacPro buyers just hanging on to machines that are long in the tooth due to no significant upgrades.
There was always going to be a massive one-off rush at first and a temporary increase in capacity to avoid modest delays at first wouldn't have been economical.
There was always going to be a massive one-off rush at first and a temporary increase in capacity to avoid modest delays at first wouldn't have been economical.
Yeah...... You got me. I've been biting my tongue for the last seven years (guess you didn't pay attention to the "join" date), hoping Apple would not only fubar the nMP design, but also screw up in forecasting demand for the machine, creating a months-long delay. And after seven long years my dream to troll post Apple has come true !!!
Give me a break.
Here's some advice to would-be "troll hunters" around here: look at the join date before opening your mouth.
None of this shows that an original order's ship date slipped considerably though. The time frame from order date to delivery has remained basically consistent which means ≠ slipping shipping dates.
None of this shows that an original order's ship date slipped considerably though. The time frame from order date to delivery has remained basically consistent which means ≠ slipping shipping dates.
which is....what...2 months?
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You don't know that. Why would you think it's only mass order? Haven't apple learned anything from iMac delays? Unless you work for apple production side...it's anyone guess. Still...they should of produce this LONG TIME AGO...when they first introduced it....(sometime early 2013).
There shouldn't be any excuse why there was mass delay when they had all this time to meet the demands. It's always a problem with Tim Cook.
Yes, 2 months, which is exactly what it's been since after the first few days the Mac Pro went on sale. Slipping timeframes would imply the time frame is getting longer, and it's not. For it to slip from what it is now, it'd have to be something along the lines of "Shipments have slipped from 2 month estimates to 3 months."
It sounds silly on the face of it, but from a marketing/resources standpoint, you're almost always better off not having quite enough product to meet demand rather than satiate everyone out of the gate. Having slightly more than enough for everyone would a larger failing on Tim's part more so than the gripes going on here.
Does anyone think for a second articles wouldn't pop up with titles like, "Mac Pros sitting on shelves, What does it mean for the state of Pros?"
And having 30 days worth of product sitting on shelves was one of the big points that once upon a time almost put Apple as a company under.
So, we should take a post seriously with kid language (Fail lol LOL etc..), an avatar of a trashcan with an apple logo and a signature that suggests to complain to apple about the Mac Pro design just because you joined in 2007?