I'm not okay with it. I hate that desktop - not because there's anything wrong with it but because of Windows. But look at the Mac desktop space. I can't justify buying any of it - ALL of them are slower than my current Windows desktop except the iMac Pro, but I'm too deep into this rabbit hole because they came out with that hardware over a year after equivalent parts were made available on the PC space, and everything else is out of date.
My use case is a combination of 3D graphics, CAD, and high performance multithreaded programming, especially GPU programming, to solve non-linear differential equations using full approximation schemes - and I like myself some gaming, too.
Now, there is plenty of PC hardware that does exactly what I want, but it all comes with Windows, and until Microsoft turns down the spying, I am unwilling to own a portable Windows device, and I've spent dozens of hours fixing up my desktop and don't want to do that again, so now I'm just ****ed.
But this isn't even about me personally. Why do you feel the need to justify a ****** line-up with "what do you even need it for?". That's the point, Geniuses - the line-up is niche or out of date, or both, across the board.
EDIT #27: I need to proofread better.
Ok, for what it's worth, a lot of people here just spout crap for the sake of arguing, but at least your arguments are logical and pretty sound. So thanks for that and thus a reasonable debate.
So ok, are there plenty of PC
laptops that can do performance multithreaded programming? (I'm actually not sure what that is). Putting aside whining about ports and keyboards, do Apple's MBP's really not handle 3D Graphics, CAD, and the other points you mentioned as well as PC equivalents? That's kind of rhetorical. I'm pretty sure Apple's laptops handle that stuff from a performance perspective as well as any PC laptops, right?
It's unreasonable to compare your Windows desktop to a Mac laptop. You accept the iMac Pro compares to your Windows desktop. (Although for the record, looking at Geekbench at least, the current i9 MBP is only marginally behind the iMP in some of the tests). So that's Apples to Apples so to speak. If you want a laptop, then what PC laptops have the hardware to do what you want, better than Apple's hardware?
Fair enough, if you just don't like the keyboard, then that does suck for you personally (and for others with the same opinion, and admittedly, I don't love the keyboard, but I still like it more than the older ones. Obviously, it's subjective.) But it's unreasonable for all these whiners on here saying
everyone hates the lack of ports, the non-upgradeability, etc. and even the keyboard (which your initial rant I replied to went on about), when some of us like these developments and consider them the future.
My question really is: how does the MBP not meet your actual needs, that a comparative PC laptop does? What do you need HDMI, USB-A, whatever else for, if you do (such that you can't bring your peripherals into the same decade as your new $5K+ laptop)? Aside from the keyboard, and putting aside just general whining about what everyone here wants to whine about for the sake of whining (ports, soldering, etc.) what is wrong with the MBP that doesn't
meet your actual needs?