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I bet they'll keep the .Mac name and add MobileMe as an extension or feature of .Mac. Like Back to My Mac. It's part of .Mac but not a product all by it's lonesome.

Good point. MobileMe is prob the .mac extension for the 3G iPhone. Think about it, when is really the only time we use "mobile", when talking about cell-phones.

Er, ah.... it's a kind of apple... Apple misspelled it, that's all?

McIntosh |ˈmakənˌtä sh | (also McIntosh red)
noun
a dessert apple of a variety native to North America, with deep red skin.
ORIGIN late 19th cent.: named after John McIntosh (1777–1845 or 1846), the American-born Canadian farmer on whose farm the apple was discovered as a wild variety.
Yep.
 
Have you ever uploaded things to a website via ftp? Same difference. Your download speeds might be 6mb, but your upload speeds are probably more like 384k. Most people are happy with that kind of bandwidth distribution, but when you start uploading like so many of us are now, it sucks.

Business class dsl or a t1 line, etc. have similar upload and download speeds.

yeah.. you'd have to talk to you ISP about that - Apple can't fix that for you.
 
Have you ever uploaded things to a website via ftp? Same difference. Your download speeds might be 6mb, but your upload speeds are probably more like 384k. Most people are happy with that kind of bandwidth distribution, but when you start uploading like so many of us are now, it sucks.

Business class dsl or a t1 line, etc. have similar upload and download speeds.

You make a very good point! Most cable and DSL providers severely limit upload speeds.

One solution might be for Apple to cut a deal with major Internet providers to jointly offer high-speed upload and download at a reasonable price.

Again, I would gladly pay for that!
 
I joined the mac world a year ago and can't imagine going back to a pc again. The experience has been an eye opener - from ichat, front row, imovie, iphoto, etc. Everything integrates into my life painlessly. I have only found one problem that is annoying and I am really looking forward to this .mac update to address this.

That is the simple ability to have online access (from any pc, not just a mac) of my ical calendar and for changes to sync to my home imac. In other words, I use a pc at work and have wanted was to use a .mac account to access (and be able to edit) my ical calendar at work, so I only have to keep one calendar. To date, this can not be done with a .mac account. Yes I could publish my ical calendar and "view it" from any computer, but this is not useful. I have tried using plaxo or spanningsync to snyc various calendars (e.g. google calendar which I can access online at work) to ical, but this has proved problematic and I gave up.

So, I say please, please Apple fix this simple issue before things get more complicated with stuff I won't use. This just seems like such a basic feature that has been missing and has kept me from getting a .mac account.

I agree -- that would be great to have online update-access to the calendar. But I think the "view it" from any computer serves its purpose too. We can just point people to view the online calendar. As I said in an earlier post, it would be great if my wife could publish (share) her calendar without having to pay for a family account.
 
How do you equate "greed" and maintaining "high (you said huge) profit margins"?

Who defines "huge"?

The capitalistic system brings good and bad (iPod and Zune, for example).

But, things like "high profits:ROI" are an incentive that a corporation provides its investors (shareholders).

Without, return, growth, etc. there would be no investors, No Apple, no Apple resellers, fewer jobs, no corporate and individual income taxes for the government (and supposedly the benefit of the people).

In our system (the most successful the world has known), companies are in business to make a profit-- without that there is no company. Profitability is a measure-- in general, better companies are more profitable.

Why is it that Apple, currently realizing 30% profits, after taking risks, complying with stupid regulations (SOX), paying 32% taxes, employee taxes, benefits, etc. is considered "greedy".

You and I, pay 30% taxes-- so we have a profit margin somewhere between 0-70%, Are we greedy?

Yep. Except it wouldn't be a profit in the same sense. Actually if you really wanted to make an analogy, the profit would be the money you placed in your savings or retirement acct at the end of the year after your expenses. Food, shelter, transportation, etc. And let's remember that corporations don't ever, ever, ever pay a penny in taxes. Raise the taxes on companies and you simply raise the price of the product. Period. Lower taxes and you'll lower the price of a product. (If one company doesn't lower their prices, then their competition will - the market will always decide on the actual fair price of the product)

I could've gone on all day but what's the point. I was young and supposedly idealistic in my day too. But the problem is seeing things superficially. It's a sort of class envy: "These corporations are making big profits and I'm not rich! I couldn't be doing anything wrong. They must be greedy (read evil) and therefore me, in my poor state, must not be greedy and therefore good and saintly. Lets persecute evil! " People should spend their time trying to be a success or enjoying the success they're comfortable with. It doesn't take much to get by in America. But people tend to live beyond their means. Cell phones, cable tv, expensive cars (leased no doubt), etc. If you can afford that stuff then great. But don't complain you can't afford food or gas while playing playstation on the internet while watching cable tv.

To get back to idealism, I'm not so young and idealistic anymore. I basically found that I wasn't idealistic, I was mostly wrong or ignorant. I thoght that people or companies "should" do this or should want to do that and if they didn't they were just evil or greedy and should be punished with punitive damages or laws that don't allow this that or the other or force them to do this that or the other. After all, I was right and they're wrong. The only one that wins in that scenario is the politicians that feed off our envy. Vote for me and I'll MAKE so and so do this or that. Vote for me and I'll give you this or that. To do all those things the govt needs to rob from someone else to give to someone. (Ambulance chasing attorneys are a perfect analogy and somehow we all agree on their character!) The govt creates no product. Makes no profits. The money comes from the people. As long as they have the power to take from one and give to the other, then they'll use and extend that power to get elected. But what works better, punitive measures or positive reinforcement and reward? A dog may not dig a hole for fear of getting smacked, but he'll jump through hoops for a treat or praise. Companies need incentives. People need incentives. Limiting success or profits is nothing more than punishing success and removing incentive. We should be free to do what we want when and how we want to do it, AS LONG AS it doesn't infringe on another person's right to do so as well. That's it. There's not much grey area there and probably 90% of our laws follow that guideline. Aside from a few cultural oddities that's basically what the constitution says. Let's treat our rules, regulations and tax system the same way and our economy will be the envy of every country out there. And that's GOOD!
 
I think...

four things

  1. that .Mac has huge potential
  2. thst the name Mobile Me totally blows. Sounds like some windows crap
  3. that they had better do something about the service
  4. that it had better not cost any more
 
i just read somewhere that the new name is going to be ".koolaid"

:)

I mean, 99$ for it is about 2x what Im willing to pay, so you might as well drink up that Bunch Berry!

Now, i bet they completely overhaul it, something that has been needed since I bought my first MB.
 
Yep. Except it wouldn't be a profit in the same sense. Actually if you really wanted to make an analogy, the profit would be the money you placed in your savings or retirement acct at the end of the year after your expenses. Food, shelter, transportation, etc. And let's remember that corporations don't ever, ever, ever pay a penny in taxes. Raise the taxes on companies and you simply raise the price of the product. Period. Lower taxes and you'll lower the price of a product. (If one company doesn't lower their prices, then their competition will - the market will always decide on the actual fair price of the product)

I could've gone on all day but what's the point. I was young and supposedly idealistic in my day too. But the problem is seeing things superficially. It's a sort of class envy: "These corporations are making big profits and I'm not rich! I couldn't be doing anything wrong. They must be greedy (read evil) and therefore me, in my poor state, must not be greedy and therefore good and saintly. Lets persecute evil! " People should spend their time trying to be a success or enjoying the success they're comfortable with. It doesn't take much to get by in America. But people tend to live beyond their means. Cell phones, cable tv, expensive cars (leased no doubt), etc. If you can afford that stuff then great. But don't complain you can't afford food or gas while playing playstation on the internet while watching cable tv.

To get back to idealism, I'm not so young and idealistic anymore. I basically found that I wasn't idealistic, I was mostly wrong or ignorant. I thoght that people or companies "should" do this or should want to do that and if they didn't they were just evil or greedy and should be punished with punitive damages or laws that don't allow this that or the other or force them to do this that or the other. After all, I was right and they're wrong. The only one that wins in that scenario is the politicians that feed off our envy. Vote for me and I'll MAKE so and so do this or that. Vote for me and I'll give you this or that. To do all those things the govt needs to rob from someone else to give to someone. (Ambulance chasing attorneys are a perfect analogy and somehow we all agree on their character!) The govt creates no product. Makes no profits. The money comes from the people. As long as they have the power to take from one and give to the other, then they'll use and extend that power to get elected. But what works better, punitive measures or positive reinforcement and reward? A dog may not dig a hole for fear of getting smacked, but he'll jump through hoops for a treat or praise. Companies need incentives. People need incentives. Limiting success or profits is nothing more than punishing success and removing incentive. We should be free to do what we want when and how we want to do it, AS LONG AS it doesn't infringe on another person's right to do so as well. That's it. There's not much grey area there and probably 90% of our laws follow that guideline. Aside from a few cultural oddities that's basically what the constitution says. Let's treat our rules, regulations and tax system the same way and our economy will be the envy of every country out there. And that's GOOD!

Well said!

Like many, I began to re-think my idealism when I received my first paycheck. It turned out, that the governments said they knew better (ponzi schemes) how to spend the 1st 20% (back then) of my gross income. These were non-refundable deductions, based on a % of my income. In addition, the governments withheld income taxes that I was calculated to owe based on my gross income. I was shocked that my paycheck was less than 70% of what I earned!

I didn't realize, at the time, that my employer was matching these funds (except the withheld income tax). Today, for every dollar you earn in wages, your employer pays the governments (Fed, State, County, City) an amount almost equal. Said, another way, it costs an employer about double your salary to employ you.

Yes, there is, likely, some greed in the capitalistic system-- but it appears to me that the employers are not the big culprits. Rather, it is the politicians who subsidize this or that activity to further their own interests (power). And, it is we, the individual citizens who are to blame-- we let them do it to us.

/rant
 
why would apple start using "me" in its names when its been using "i"??? why wouldnt it be "iMobile"?????! sounds so much better to me

this has ENORMOUS potential. complete sync of everything. i'm hoping for varied tiers of price/product, as we all dont need/want the full thing. $99 is way too much for it to be pushed into the masses

it's going to be built around the iphone, 100%. will it allow for streaming/syncable music???! that would be fricking awesome. imagine uploading your entire library to a server and then picking what you want to listen to/download

cant wait...
 
If I were going to get it, it would need 100GB backup, with an easy interface for iTunes and iPhoto restoration, and a much faster iDisk
 
If I were going to get it, it would need 100GB backup, with an easy interface for iTunes and iPhoto restoration, and a much faster iDisk


lets see, average users upload speed for files, about 50KB/s. That is space id love to use, cause my home folder is <100GB, but it would take...

roughly 500-600hrs straight to satisfy that space, thats a whole month almost, NON STOP, YIKE! Id be willing to bet about 1% of .mac users really have an upload that could fill 100GB in a somewhat resonable time.

Id love to see it though, i just dont think is currently plausible
 
Finally, i hope europeans get a 'snappier' service, i want to use .Mac but its unworkable for me at the moment.

Yeah, it would be nice if service were the same anywhere in the world we go. I look forward to what .Mac will morph into. I wasn't impressed enough in the trail period to extend the subscription. There just wasn't enough value presented.
 
myname @mobileme.com - no never work!

Price drop! I've only just renewed my sub darnit!

Oh well, I love giving Apple large amounts of my money - it would seem!
 
lets see, average users upload speed for files, about 50KB/s. That is space id love to use, cause my home folder is <100GB, but it would take...

roughly 500-600hrs straight to satisfy that space, thats a whole month almost, NON STOP, YIKE! Id be willing to bet about 1% of .mac users really have an upload that could fill 100GB in a somewhat resonable time.

Id love to see it though, i just dont think is currently plausible

So whats the problem with offering it? It would be even better marketing for them to advertise 100GB, knowing they don't need the server space to handle that much for evey user. Personally, I wouldn't mind uploading my iTunes library very slowly over my 1mb (well, I get 850kbps according to SpeedTest.net) upload connection.
 
Things I’d like to see in a .Mac upgrade.....

1. Over-the-air syncing of address book, notes, calendars, and bookmarks to the iPod Touch and iPhone.

2. Webpages built in iWeb sync to all your macs to allow you to update your website from any of your computers.

3. Online editing of iCal calendars

4. Integration of the iCards function on the .Mac website directly into the Mail application.
 
So whats the problem with offering it? It would be even better marketing for them to advertise 100GB, knowing they don't need the server space to handle that much for evey user. Personally, I wouldn't mind uploading my iTunes library very slowly over my 1mb (well, I get 850kbps according to SpeedTest.net) upload connection.

yours may be very slow, but mine isnt even half that :(

if they offer 100GB to people who buy just the regular membership, what about people that want even more space? Im sure you guys are out there :)

10GB is all the average .mac user needs currently. We arent average users on here, in this thread.

There isnt anything wrong with offering it, but if they do, they just upped their storage needs by 1000%, thats a lot to do in one jump. Thats a lot of wasted space to have sitting around for no one to use it. And lets face it, not everyone will use it. You just went from 10,000 1TB drives, to
100,000 1TB drives, thats a lot of drives to buy (rated at roughly 1MIL users)

id rather have local fast access storage, via an external HD, for my backup purposes. Its quicker, and more convenient to backup/restore.

And when you do upload your itunes library for those weeks at a time, realize, your internet will be dog slow. once you max out that upload, your DL just dies because you cant even send out basic info, cause you have nothing left!
 
yours may be very slow, but mine isnt even half that :(

if they offer 100GB to people who buy just the regular membership, what about people that want even more space? Im sure you guys are out there :)

10GB is all the average .mac user needs currently. We arent average users on here, in this thread.

There isnt anything wrong with offering it, but if they do, they just upped their storage needs by 1000%, thats a lot to do in one jump. Thats a lot of wasted space to have sitting around for no one to use it. And lets face it, not everyone will use it.

What I meant is that if they offer 100GB, and most users use just over the current 10GB, it won't put much pressure on them to increase their server space (a 60% increase maybe) by as much as you say, but it will allow some users to back up as much as they want.
 
What I meant is that if they offer 100GB, and most users use just over the current 10GB, it won't put much pressure on them to increase their server space (a 60% increase maybe) by as much as you say, but it will allow some users to back up as much as they want.

right i was of course assuming 100% usage, which will never happen. But they need to be ready for it none the less, even if it is just a plan.

i could see them upping it, but not by 90GB, maybe more like, here's 25GB for regular users 50GB for people that want more.

if you need more, buy an external for time machine.
 
If all this is true then it should be a free service for iPhone users bundled with the phone...A la blackberry syncing comes with the phone.

Except you pay extra for that. when I had a blackberry the service was $30/month for internet and Blackberry Exchange Support. If you wanted text messages this was extra.

Things might have changed, but i'm pretty sure that all of the syncing abilities with a blackberry are paid services.
 
Mobile me?

Actually 'mobile me' looks similar to 'back to me'; a service where remote computers can be searched and files are returned to the user's computer.

So if this is true, what is mobile me? A collaboration between several different pieces of technology made by Apple where the same information can be made available. Perhaps this is just the sync facility reaching out to other technology. Perhaps they might include iTunes in the service ie. download a song from starbucks and then it is automatically synced with your other registered computers.
 
You know what's hillarious about all this.....

You know what the funniest thing is about everyone in this thread who doesn't like the MobileMe name...


.... is that all of you will do a 180 deg. turn and forget this thread ever existed and how you felt when Jobs says the following on June 9th ....

"and not only is Mobile Me have all these new features ... just as the likes of so many popular cloud services such as Yahoo, Google, Face Book, My Space , starting today ..... <insert drumroll> ... Mobile Me is Free... <applause>"


:rolleyes:


You guys are too quick to slam the gavel . What if " ME " Stands for something ? What if he doesn't even pronounce it ME as in MiniMe and pronounces it "Emmy" ? geez .. someone breaks a somewhat likely rumor and you'd think they sky fell and killed Apple judging by the comments in this thread.
 
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