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USB C is just a different connector shape.

Not quite, the USB C spec does allow for much more power than previous USB generations. That's why the MacBook that has only USB C and not TB3 can charge with it. The 10W limit on USB 1/2/3 would be crazy to try to run/charge a laptop with.
 
No worries! I don’t even have a MacBook new enough for Apple Watch unlock.

But you bring up a more important point... can face ID work with a dog?

Theoretically I think it would. They have discernible eyes, nose, and mouth, and should have unique 3D topologies for their faces...

I wasn't planning to buy an iPhone X but I may have to now just to find that out. ;-)
 
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I had been waiting many years for Apple to produce a bluetooth number pad keyboard so when this arrived I purchased 8 of them over the next six weeks.

They all arrived perfect and I have not had any issues with them.
While this is a small sample, Reviews are also biased to damage product.

I was interested in one of these when they first came out as I have the wired version and the wireless without a keypad is not for me. However, most of the reviews on the UK Apple site say that the current version of this keyboard is almost always bent. Perhaps this update is to make it a bit less cr*p for the money.
 
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Great keyboard
Yes, it bends in the middle because the 4 feet are on the outer edge
Additional feet in the middle would solve this - no major redesign needed
 
I don't know why, but the wired version of they keyboard is literally one of my favorite keyboards, of all time, behind the Model M.

Seriously. I just don't know why, but I fing love this keyboard. I have 3 of them and have been holding out on getting a wireless one because I've seen multiple reports that they bend, I'm cheap, and I heard that they are different. And I'm cheap.

Totally agree. Besides, it's used with a desktop, so realistically, wires aren't a big hassle (yes it is neater, but on the other hand, it's harder for one of my kids to run away with it)

And I keep saying that it's not "cheap" - frugal and practical and perhaps parsimonious (though my kids would say chintzy, miserly, penny-pinching, tightwad....)
 
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This takes basically no effort to recharge via lightning cable (included), and the charge lasts a LONG time if my smaller model is any indication. There's also a proper on/off switch so you can make sure it's off and not draining power via Bluetooth.



You gotta get rechargables, my man. I got tired of buying and putting batteries into landfill, invested modestly in some Eneloop AA and AAAs and a charger years ago, and haven't looked back. They're miles ahead of the older generations of rechargables. Pro tip: the Amazon basics versions are supposedly rebranded Eneloops, work just as well, and are even less expensive.


Pro Tip: The Amazon Basics rechargeable batteries are ever so slightly larger than other AA. Enough where one needs to be careful they do not get stuck, especially in tube type battery compartments.
 
That's a bit like saying if the MacBook Pro doesn't come with a 27" screen developers should assume that large screen sizes are dead.

not at all... there is a difference between a display size that is not at all practical, if not impossible, on a laptop...and a brand new user interface that is not only expensive but actually adds very little utility...hence the slow developer uptake.


I find the new keyboards to not be very good. I still like my original chiclet aluminium wired USB keyboard ala 2008. The keys feel better for me.
 
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As one who works with numbers a LOT, getting the numeric pad on this keyboard is an absolute necessity for me. Although, my Mac usage is less about the numbers than it is about the music. Still, I have been waiting for one of these.
 
Keeping fingers crossed for a touchbar, and compatibility with my cMP and my 2015 MacBook Pro.

Would love the functionality provided they keep the function keys below them still ;)
 
I wasn't planning to buy an iPhone X but I may have to now just to find that out. ;-)

This could end up going in a very weird or awkward direction....

Back on topic -
Doesn't Logitech make a very good solar-powered wireless keyboard, for a similar price?
And if so, why can't Apple do the same (or better)? Other than the fact that they couldn't charge the million-percent markup that they are used to?
 
Wasn't sure if you meant Thunderbolt or Touch Bar. I'd probably spring for the latter.


I finally saw the Touch Bar in operation with various apps and I was really impressed at how contextually sensitive it was, shifting to appropriate functions as the app was used. The CMD, OPT and CTRL keys each brought up a different set of functions. The Touch Bar basically allows for more intuitive access to the plethora of app hot keys. Plus, I love that fingerprint reader....
LOL. Touch Bar sounds better.
 
Pro Tip: The Amazon Basics rechargeable batteries are ever so slightly larger than other AA. Enough where one needs to be careful they do not get stuck, especially in tube type battery compartments.
Wasn't aware, and haven't had any issues with my older gen Apple AA wireless keyboard. Good to know. You'd think they'd be more aware of tolerances...
 
I would also LOVE to see a solar panel on these things. I really like the minimal design, but I've been using solar-powered Logitech keyboards for years now, as I got sick of buying AAs.

This keyboard doesn't use AAs - it is rechargeable by a lightning port. Seems to have really good battery life too. I think I've recharged mine 2x since the beginning of June when I got it.
 
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I had been waiting many years for Apple to produce a bluetooth number pad keyboard so when this arrived I purchased 8 of them over the next six weeks.

They all arrived perfect and I have not had any issues with them.
While this is a small sample, Reviews are also biased to damage product.

Interesting to hear. I suppose people are more likely to post to forums when they have experienced a problem and those that haven't had any issues keep quiet. Such is the way of the world. Having said that, I think it's fair to say that there obviously is a problem with some of these keyboards and it's enough of an issue to be a little wary when buying one.
 
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I don't know why, but the wired version of they keyboard is literally one of my favorite keyboards, of all time

the one positive, they kept the scissors mechanism (imagine how good butterfly must be)

They kept the scissor mechanism, but still reduced the travel and changed the "feel" of the keys and (as you say) reduced the angle to "too flat".

Gave up on mine after giving it a good go, and went back to the wired version. Glad I got it "cheap" with an iMac and didn't pay full whack.
 
I love the new numeric keyboard I ordered one for work right after they were announced. I just wish i could have gotten the Space Grey version.
 
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Imagine if you you implement FaceID and fast user switching such that if you walk up to the computer when it is asleep/locked, it does a FaceID auth attempt. If it detects a face for an account that isn't the current one, it could automatically switch user accounts and log in. Then if that person happens to walk away without logging off, the next person just walks up, wakes the computer, and in seconds are at their desktop. I think in my household that would be a pretty popular feature. It would require the FaceID being able to be configured with multiple faces and each face on a separate account, but on a full blown computer that makes a lot more sense than on a mobile device.

You don't have to imagine it anymore...Windows 10 does it already with their Windows Hello Facial recognition. I'm logged in but computer locks due to inactivity, my wife steps up and wakes it, it sees her and logs into her account automatically.

Maybe Apple will catch-up to Windows in that respect, although it will have already lost some shine considering it already exists.
 
I noticed these on the shelf at an Apple Store earlier this week - I thought it odd that both this one and the "regular" non-numeric keypad were both called "Magic Keyboard" on the packaging.

This one should be called the "Magic K3yboard"
 
You don't have to imagine it anymore...Windows 10 does it already with their Windows Hello Facial recognition. I'm logged in but computer locks due to inactivity, my wife steps up and wakes it, it sees her and logs into her account automatically.

Maybe Apple will catch-up to Windows in that respect, although it will have already lost some shine considering it already exists.

But imagine the crushing disappointment when you suddenly realise that you're using Windows.
 
I wish they would fix the keyboard layout so that the Apple Wired Keyboard Fn, Control, Option, Command are the same as all the other Apple keyboards.
 
not at all... there is a difference between a display size that is not at all practical, if not impossible, on a laptop...and a brand new user interface that is not only expensive but actually adds very little utility...hence the slow developer uptake.


I find the new keyboards to not be very good. I still like my original chiclet aluminium wired USB keyboard ala 2008. The keys feel better for me.

But it's not at all practical, if not impossible at the moment to get a touch strip in a wireless keyboard so.

Genuinely think the 2016/17 MacBook Pro keyboard is the best keyboard i've ever typed on. Followed by the current gen Magic Keyboard.
 
Is it *possible* and consumer *affordable* for Apple to create a keyboard that mimics the Touchbar on the Macbook Pro? In other words, a touch bar integrated into the Magic Keyboard?

It's a hard engineering challenge, especially if you want Touch ID, because you have to establish a wireless trust relationship between the keyboard and computer (though arguably, this already happens between the Watch and a Mac, so maybe they've solved that part?). Leaving aside Touch ID, there's also the latency/bandwidth problem of streaming the Touch Bar UI live, wirelessly, to the display strip.

Which means it's probably an expensive effort, which may explain why they haven't done it yet — they might have concluded that they'd only be able to sell it at, say, $299, and who would buy that?
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What's a touchbar do that a row of programmable F keys doesn't?

Touch Bar is to F key row as iPhone is to Blackberry.
 
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