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I am predicting "death of the mouse" like we had the funeral for OS9... I think Apple have always wanted to find an alternative for the mouse, which is why I think I find myself not using it very much. Everything I do in OSX seems to be based round shortcuts, and when I'm on a laptop a lot of gestures.

Of course there's still plenty of times when i've needed to point at click, but I seem to do it much less when I used a windows machine (albeit a long time ago now... windows 95... but still...)

Multitouch is the future on mobile devices, this is obvious... but for our PCs there need to be a massive shift in the operating system which I can't imagine what that is yet... I don't imagine we'll see this until OSXI or OSXII...
Touchpads are OK for basic stuff like surfing or working with Word/Excel documents. For anything where you need precision, e.g. pixelpushing in Photoshop, editing audio and video files etc, it's useless. Mouse or Wacom tablet is the only way to go for that kind of work. And don't get me started on gaming with with touchpads...
 
If you noticed the black keyboard is centered to the monitor as the white one is moved closer to the right, very skewed. the number pad really doesn't change your ergonomics that much

I think the issue was that the actual keyboard letters should always be centred to the screen which pushes the cursors and num pad out to where you want the mouse to me. The advent of the BT alu keyboard solved that problem (by lopping it off) and the black keyboard in this pic solves it by moving the num pad to the left. This trackpad brings it back (if you want to use both trackpad and mouse)

Personally I dislike trackpads, even Apple ones. I find them cumbersome compared to either a 1:1 mapping (like a Wacom) or a mouse. And on a laptop, I much prefer Thinkpad nubbins. But I guess that’s because to this day I'm almost exclusively a desktop user.

Incidentally, welcome back Spartacus!

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Erm...how about the opposite side of the keyboard to the mouse?

Wacky, maybe, but I think it could work (at least, I'd like to try it). Pinching, zooming, swiping, scrolling...anyone? :eek:
 
I like this but I'm a bit concerned it'll just be a little difficult... I've never used an external trackpad but it seems like it would be confusing to have that big of a gap between the screen and the trackpad. Who knows, I say this now but I'll probably fall in love with it when I use it.
 
This may have already been said, but the more I think about this, the more I believe that this will do "everything," from functioning as an actual keyboard, to handwriting recognition, to advanced trackpad stuff, to stuff we haven't even thought of. Perhaps this will be the end of the keyboard as we know it. And yes, I like hyperbole.
 
Apple doesn't need to convince you:
http://vimeo.com/6712657

SOLD. After watching that video, I want this thing even more than I want a new iPhone!!! It could simultanously obsolete both the Keyboard and the Mouse, and the iPad even. :eek:

God I hope that video comes true, and they implement it alongside Google TV/Apple TV so that I could use it in my living room, on my 1080p set.
 
Although that one is much slicker, those kind of devices habe been out for many years in the PC world. This is an OOOOOLLLLD Idea

not certain I agree completely. It may be an older form factor, but multitouch is not a PC world convention, no one in the PC World has ever been implemented it the way Apple has. From day one of purchasing my MBP unibody and experiencing multitouch, this is the kind of device I've wanted.
 
This is probably for mainly graphic artists and people wanting a trackpad instead of the mouse. Your probably won't need this and a mouse, it's probably going to be marketed as an "either - or" type thing. As a graphic artist I do hope it is just marketed to us mainly. With a sub 100$ price point and hopefully the precision of a waacom tablet. That would be kick ass.

I don't see it as being any kind of a replacement as the Magic Mouse is so new, and works good.

Maybe Apple is developing a grand Photoshop replacement?
 
Ha, I love how 90% of the first posts are very short one liners. "Look at me, I am first!"
Great math there, man.

Doesn't look fine at all. :p

The ergonomic benefit of getting rid of the numerical keypad is that you have have the alphanumerical keys centered right in front of you.
Unless, of course, you actually USE the bloody thing. Steve. :rolleyes:

Yeh, until Apple starts shipping iMacs with a keyboard+trackpad combo. So much for Steam.
Apple doesn't make any gaming input devices, anyway. You're always going to have something 3rd party for speed and precision, right?


Personally, I've wanted a wireless trackball for my HT. But since there aren't any that will work, I wonder if a device like this would. Be worth checking out, anyway. I almost got the Magic Mouse, but it is just too thin for my situation, I'd be straining my wrist constantly.
 
FINALLY. I've been wanting a trackpad for my desktop PC for... ever? Most of the time I find mice to be the best (for work and play), but a trackpad would have a lot of use for me especially if its bluetooth. I love the one on the Macbook pro range.

This is the first time I've been genuinely excited for an Apple product :D.
 
This can't be real, can it?

I've looked closely, and I can't see any place this incorporates a mechanical joint to give a "click". OK you could tap to click, but Apple clearly decided that they weren't going to force people down that route when they introduced the "the whole pad is the button" design.

Secondly, I don't think that something as sloped as that is going to be comfortable whether it is sloping up or down - I have never seen anyone pleading for an inclined track pad on their lap-top.

So I am 100% convinced this is not real - though I agree that some sort of implementation of this idea would be a good thing, in general - the magic mouse is nice, but a disappointment compared with the glass track-pad...
 
Touchpads are OK for basic stuff like surfing or working with Word/Excel documents. For anything where you need precision, e.g. pixelpushing in Photoshop, editing audio and video files etc, it's useless. Mouse or Wacom tablet is the only way to go for that kind of work. And don't get me started on gaming with with touchpads...

It's not useless. Not to everyone anyway.

I use Illustrator with my MBP's trackpad and multitouch pretty heavily and it's fantastic.

Maybe I'm in the minority. I just know that using a mouse on my desktop PC at work is like torture compared to a trackpad now that I'm used to it.
 
This is probably for mainly graphic artists and people wanting a trackpad instead of the mouse. Your probably won't need this and a mouse, it's probably going to be marketed as an "either - or" type thing. As a graphic artist I do hope it is just marketed to us mainly. With a sub 100$ price point and hopefully the precision of a waacom tablet. That would be kick ass.

I don't see it as being any kind of a replacement as the Magic Mouse is so new, and works good.

Maybe Apple is developing a grand Photoshop replacement?

Actually, I doubt it.

I don't think there will be any sort of stylus for this, nor do I think it will work with a stylus or pen. Strictly finger touch.

And I think it will function pretty much exactly the same as a trackpad on a Macbook Pro. But I do agree it will function as a replacement for a mouse. I just don't think it's going to be something aimed toward professional designers. It will have very basic functionality and be geared toward the average consumer.

I'm guessing the price point will be $49.

And as much as I'd like to see Apple enter the DTP game, I really don't see that as a possibility unless Adobe decides to end Mac development. Which is very unlikely.
 
I've wanted this for ages!

For 5-6 weeks of the year I'm away from my desktop and live solely on my MBP. I upgraded to a unibody one 10 months ago, and got used to the trackpad every day. Going back to my desktop (even with Magic Mouse) was a bit of a disappointment in terms of UI. I think I even started threads here about wanting a multitouch big trackpad, but unless Apple built it (and made the gestures work with all i* desktop apps) it wouldn't be of much use.

All that to say, this is a dream come true. Hope it's reasonably priced, but I fear it'll be up around $75, and I'll pay it.
 
Bleh

I really doubt this is anything.

Add another lefty here that writes with his left hand and mouses (and uses touchpads on laptops) with the right. I already struggle with Wacom tablet placement, but I only use those for pen specific inputs, not general pointing duties.

This won't replace a mouse for most people, but people that are just buying new iMac, it might be the in box next to the keyboard. I don't see this being the introduction to iPhone OS apps on the desktop or even with AppleTV though, the iPhone's advantage is in the screen being under the touch device. Inprecise devices like wacom pen input devices require a LOT of adjustment to get used to, more than a mouse provides. I don't see it working as both a keyboard and mouse, again mostly because people need to be able to look down at something to type and Apple is REALLY not on the hand writing recognition input method, I think they'd rather work with speech to text. Beyond that, I have to echo that if this doesn't have pressure sensitivity, it's a no go for artists (really it's not the finger painting that most artists dislike, it's not being able to adjust input based on pressure). And the majority of normal users prefer mouse to touchpads. I know I always hear about laptop users complaining that everything has shifted to touchpads over the nub, and there are already plenty of these touch devices at reasonable prices for the few that want to swing that direction.

This just doesn't seem to fit a need for the majority of users, which is what Apple always tries to target. My vote is this is a dead prototype, meant to lead us astray before the big news day.
 
It's not useless. Not to everyone anyway.

I use Illustrator with my MBP's trackpad and multitouch pretty heavily and it's fantastic.

Maybe I'm in the minority. I just know that using a mouse on my desktop PC at work is like torture compared to a trackpad now that I'm used to it.


I completely agree with you. I cant stand my mouse at work. The entire time I am at work I just think about how much easier my work would be if I had my MBP trackpad.
 
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