Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Is anyone else upset at the size increase? If I can't continue to use the entire width with one hand I'm going to be pissed.

Go get an Android.

----------

Smartphones and Tablets ARE the new computers. If people want 1TB on their laptop and desktop for various reasons, than they want as much space as possible on their iPhones and iPads for the same exact reason.

I don't foresee myself coding Websites on iPhones or iPads.
 
WWDC in June - Apple unveils the new iPhone6

iPhone6 goes on sale in July.

This allows Apple to have inventory levels stable going into the crucial holiday season beginning in November - after all the early adopters get their phones in the summer.

Please let this happen!!

Historically, every new phone was shipped with a new OS. That new OS is previewed to developers at least 3 months before the new phone ships.
I wouldn't speculate on a ship date for the new phone until the preview of iOS8 takes place. WWDC in June would be the most likely for that.
 
From what I recall the iPhone launch was supposedly moved to september to capitalize back-to-school season spending.

Personally I hate Apple cramming EVERYTHING into Q3 and Q4 and would prefer they return to iPad spring, iPhone fall, and OSX/Mac summer.

That will be really great. Everything in the fall is not going to work. The iPad lines are maturing and I guess this generation (iPad Air / Retina Mini) will stay longer until Spring 2015.
 
First it was 4.5", then 5.5", now 5.7". Hell, just slap the phone app on an iPad mini and call it a day -_-

I thought 5.7" was too big... difficult to fit in pockets and such.

So you suggest a 7.9" phone? :D

u7fXXTq.jpg
 
No they are not. For some people, these devices may be all they need for their computing tasks, but that doesn't change the fact that tablets ARE NOT computers.

I should clarify– as I'm sure some would be salivating at the bit to flame that statement. Therefore, when I say they are not computers, I mean that they cannot do many of the tasks that laptops and desktops can do, such as easily accessing the file system (Android's accessible file system in nowhere near applicable), lower level OS instructions, automation, etc.

Sure, smartphones and tablets are much closer to laptops and desktops than calculators are as far as computing is concerned, but you could also say that calculators are computers– they are, but not when measured against today's laptops and desktops.



People want and need 1TB of data on their laptops and desktops because the data is expected to reside there permanently. For most people, leaving all of your data on your mobile device simply isn't an efficient way of using your mobile device. The size and technology constraints of mobile devices require you to leverage cloud services to increase your reach to your data that you store offsite (at home, work, etc). The reason why most users still want (and don't need) 128GB of space is because they haven't learned how to leverage those cloud services, and cut the cord between their laptops and desktops at home.

Well what you say would be true if we had unlimited reliable lte connection at all times (I got unlimited Verizon and even that's not 100% reliable), but unfortunately we don't.

Also, Apple spoiled us more than a decade ago with the iPod which allowed many of us to have massive 100GB music libraries.

On top of that a season of an HD TV show can be over 50GB, plus movies etc...

Also, from my understanding you're more of a "power use", but for those who are not computer savy (90% of people), leveraging cloud services to perfection is way beyond their expertise.
 
Oh... and Apple... Can you PLEASE give us the option of getting 128GB iPhones this time around???

I have a terrible feeling they will leave that for the S version next year :mad:

----------

WWDC in June - Apple unveils the new iPhone6

iPhone6 goes on sale in July.

This allows Apple to have inventory levels stable going into the crucial holiday season beginning in November - after all the early adopters get their phones in the summer.

Please let this happen!!

For that to happen I think Apple would have to show/give i0S 8 to developers for testing..... sometime next month ;)

----------

Well let's not get crazy!! :p

lol :D
 
Oh... and Apple... Can you PLEASE give us the option of getting 128GB iPhones this time around???

It amazes me that 10 years ago when I purchase my first iPod (3rd gen), 15GB was the baseline entry. And now 10 years later today, baseline entry iPhone is only comes with 16GB!

10 years ago 60GB was the standard for a PC now today 500GB is the standard. Why hasn't storage increase with iPhones over time? I don't get it. 32GB should at least be the standard for iPhones today. 16GB - $199 (2 year contract) has been the standard since iPhone 3GS:confused:
 
Well what you say would be true if we had unlimited reliable lte connection at all times (I got unlimited Verizon and even that's not 100% reliable), but unfortunately we don't.

Also, Apple spoiled us more than a decade ago with the iPod which allowed many of us to have massive 100GB music libraries.

On top of that a season of an HD TV show can be over 50GB, plus movies etc...

Also, from my understanding you're more of a "power use", but for those who are not computer savy (90% of people), leveraging cloud services to perfection is way beyond their expertise.

This is INCREDIBLY true, I work in the retail area of a phone carrier and 99% of my iPhone customers have still never even heard of iCloud let alone knowing how to use it. They still confuse data usage with phone memory usage so as much as I wish people would be much smarter with cloud services, were just nowhere near there yet.
 
No they are not. For some people, these devices may be all they need for their computing tasks, but that doesn't change the fact that tablets ARE NOT computers.

I should clarify– as I'm sure some would be salivating at the bit to flame that statement. Therefore, when I say they are not computers, I mean that they cannot do many of the tasks that laptops and desktops can do, such as easily accessing the file system (Android's accessible file system in nowhere near applicable), lower level OS instructions, automation, etc.

Sure, smartphones and tablets are much closer to laptops and desktops than calculators are as far as computing is concerned, but you could also say that calculators are computers– they are, but not when measured against today's laptops and desktops.



People want and need 1TB of data on their laptops and desktops because the data is expected to reside there permanently. For most people, leaving all of your data on your mobile device simply isn't an efficient way of using your mobile device. The size and technology constraints of mobile devices require you to leverage cloud services to increase your reach to your data that you store offsite (at home, work, etc). The reason why most users still want (and don't need) 128GB of space is because they haven't learned how to leverage those cloud services, and cut the cord between their laptops and desktops at home.

Well spoken.
 
As an avid tech user with a large amount of data, I still have to ask-- why is there a necessity for this amount of space in a phone or tablet?? If people would take advantage of iTunes Match, iTunes in the Cloud (for renting and viewing purchased video) and Photo Stream, I would guess that ~80 - 90% of of them wouldn't get past 32GB of data on their devices, let alone 64 or 128GB. Do you need 128GB of data with you at all times?

That would be fine if there wasn't such a huge requirement for 'Other Space' in iOS to constantly hog over 4 gig of storage space.
 
As an avid tech user with a large amount of data, I still have to ask-- why is there a necessity for this amount of space in a phone or tablet?? If people would take advantage of iTunes Match, iTunes in the Cloud (for renting and viewing purchased video) and Photo Stream, I would guess that ~80 - 90% of of them wouldn't get past 32GB of data on their devices, let alone 64 or 128GB. Do you need 128GB of data with you at all times?
For starters... people have data caps... you don't get full reception everywhere and in those cases you can't stream your music or download an app or whatever requires a good signal... iTunes Match cripples your music quality if the bitrate is too high and it will downgrade it automatically... among other things. I find it more intriguing that an "avid tech user" can't understand why we'd want 128 GB iPhones. I still have my 160 GB iPod Classic around because I have nothing to replace it with. 16 GB needs to die just like we used to have 4 and 8 GB options. 16 GB needs to be dropped off and the options should be 32 64 and 128 GB. It really is about time. Also the size of apps are increasing, which makes the 16 GB rather limited now... video quality is going up... and data fills up fast. The average Joe may not need even 16 GB... but if you use your phone as much as I do for the amount of things I use it for... 128 GB would be quite nice. I would buy it in a heartbeat and I wouldn't need to carry around my Classic.

And to the person going on about "leveraging cloud services"... again with data caps. Offline data also saves battery life. The cloud thing is not an argument... and telling people they don't know what they're doing because they just don't get the magic "cloud" is silly. The cloud storage offered is also quite small and if you want more it costs money. Why would I want to pay for online storage that I would have to stream and/or download and use up my data cap when I can have it built into my phone and save both monthly data cap and battery life? Apps, video, etc. are all increasing size and naturally so should the storage in the phone. I don't care if you don't view a phone as a laptop... the mobile devices of today do about a trillion different things and are entirely different entities than they were 5 years ago. They serve an entirely different purpose now. More storage is needed for power users.

And of course they can't do what laptops/desktops can do, but that doesn't change the fact that minimal needs are changing all the time.
 
Last edited:
Maybe they will start production in May to have a stock for 10 millions for the first weekend in september
 
I thought 5.7" was too big... difficult to fit in pockets and such.

So you suggest a 7.9" phone? :D

Common sense, obviously lacking: People have different places to put stuff. If 5.7" doesn't fit into my pocket, then it doesn't go in the pocket. And at that point, a bit of additional size doesn't matter. 50% of potential customers use handbags to store things, and an iPad Mini fits easily.
 
nexus 7 fit only in jacket poket...but still is 7" , i think the maximum size for everyone's pocket is 5.5"
 
Common sense, obviously lacking: People have different places to put stuff. If 5.7" doesn't fit into my pocket, then it doesn't go in the pocket. And at that point, a bit of additional size doesn't matter. 50% of potential customers use handbags to store things, and an iPad Mini fits easily.

No doubt. But my point was simply this:

Whenever someone suggests an iPad Mini phone... I don't think they realize just how big an iPad Mini actually is. Hence the picture I posted.

It's crazy seeing a 5.7" phone that is already considered huge... and then see it get dwarfed by an iPad Mini.

You're right about the handbag part... but what about the hands? It would require 2 hands to make a phone call. Or leave it in their handbag and use a Bluetooth headset.

People still use Bluetooth headsets, right? :D

I'm in the camp of 4" too small... 8" too big.

There's got to be a size in between those that is juuust right :)

The Goldilocks phone.
 
until the iPhone loses its home button, they're all the same to me and Steve would agree because he said himself he wanted the home button the F off the phone.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.