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Sigh... I've always been a Mac user (since days of my Performa 6200) and at first I was happy to hear about new people coming to the Mac. Now, I don't like it so much. More people I know having problems and blaming Apple. More incompetent people on the forms here. Crowded Apple stores that don't have that casual feeling (or free water). I miss the days of yore when finding a fellow Mac user was like finding a brother. We're losing our ability to give our Mac culture to these new switchers and will soon be over run by them. I guess we'll at least have our native apps and our demands will be listened to but so much of what we enjoy will be gone. :/
 
As an iPhone user, I am not surprised by statistics about mobile browsing. The fact that everyone has an unlimited data plan combined with an excellent browser, screen, and input device makes it a no-brainer.

The iPhone is really the first device of its kind that I would say strongly resembles browsing the web on a laptop or desktop. I attribute this largely to the multi-touch capability that makes the screen seem even larger than it actually is. As a result I use it to browse the web because "I can, and it is enjoyable" which happens a lot more frequently than "only as a last resort" which would be the case on other mobile platforms.
 
ability to give our Mac culture to these new switchers and will soon be over run by them. I guess we'll at least have our native apps and our demands will be listened to but so much of what we enjoy will be gone. :/

My friend, there is a frontier out there that even after many years remains largely unconquered by the casual user. May I introduce you to Linux, which I think would be a great cult for you to join to regain the status you desire.

The only drawback is they won't give you free bottled water either. In fact you are going to have to figure out how to configure the equipment that manufacturers the bottles, and then secure your own source of potable water which will almost certainly not be in a convenient location.
 
The only drawback is they won't give you free bottled water either. In fact you are going to have to figure out how to configure the equipment that manufacturers the bottles, and then secure your own source of potable water which will almost certainly not be in a convenient location.

Owww, thats good :D
 
Can somebody say NEWBIES!!!

Does the iPhone number also include the iPod Touch because it isn't listed separately but I'd imagine that apple has sold a bucket load of those as well.

Perhaps/probably. I think the iPod Touch browser reports itself as an iPhone, but I'm not certain about that.
 
My friend, there is a frontier out there that even after many years remains largely unconquered by the casual user. May I introduce you to Linux, which I think would be a great cult for you to join to regain the status you desire.

The only drawback is they won't give you free bottled water either. In fact you are going to have to figure out how to configure the equipment that manufacturers the bottles, and then secure your own source of potable water which will almost certainly not be in a convenient location.

Sounds like fun???

All the bulls**t is exactly why I haven't switched to Linux. I'm certain I'd be capable of it, it's just that I don't have to time to eff around with my computer 23 hours a day.

-Clive
 
The plural of virus is viruses, not viri. And why not install a fresh OS?

Oops, your right. Why no new OS? Simple, she is a complete novice. Has no clue how to install virus protection and for sure no clue how to install a new OS. She would rather buy a new one than take the existing one in.

I would help, but after a "recovering" her computers about 4 times a year I said no more, get a Mac!
 
I'm not sure comparing 6% to 92% is quite something to shout about but ok...

Maybe not, but gaining 1.4% of the total PC market in the US, when you were only 5.4% before makes for a near 26% growth in marketshare.

In an industry as big as the PC market, that IS a big deal no matter who you are.
 
It is good to see more and more people switching to Apple products. After my entire life on Windows, I switched to Mac a little over two years ago and since then have brought over a few more users from Windows. If people continue to do this, I think Apple can be at about 10% in another two years, maybe a little sooner. I also think the iPhone has helped Apple. Many PC users bought the iPhone as their first ever Apple product and after some time with it some people may want to switch over. Either way, any progress is good.
 
Perhaps/probably. I think the iPod Touch browser reports itself as an iPhone, but I'm not certain about that.

Indeed that is what I was thinking.

It is still very impressive as Windows Mobile has been around for ages and iPhone/Touch are very new to the market.
 
Sigh... I've always been a Mac user (since days of my Performa 6200) and at first I was happy to hear about new people coming to the Mac. Now, I don't like it so much. More people I know having problems and blaming Apple. More incompetent people on the forms here. Crowded Apple stores that don't have that casual feeling (or free water). I miss the days of yore when finding a fellow Mac user was like finding a brother. We're losing our ability to give our Mac culture to these new switchers and will soon be over run by them. I guess we'll at least have our native apps and our demands will be listened to but so much of what we enjoy will be gone. :/

Could you specify what you mean by 'what we enjoy will be gone'?
Enjoy looking down on these poor souls that need to use Windows? Loosing theses automatic reflexes that this OS is the only true thing and SOOO secure?

I guess this will change now, when people start getting the message that more people can afford and are using Macs now. And the track record for Apple in terms of OS-security is not all that impressive...
 
Perhaps/probably. I think the iPod Touch browser reports itself as an iPhone, but I'm not certain about that.

I just hit my website with my iPod Touch, its reporting:

Code:
"Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/3B48b Safari/419.3"

So its different from the iPhone.

Although MS Bashing is very old, this video really appeals from this thread. (apologies if already posted)
 
iPhone

When I first got the iPhone I used browsing all the time.

Now, I rarely use it.

The phone itself is great for browsing, except STILL no flash support?!?!?

But the main problem is ATT's horrendous service. Funny, when the phone first rolled out, service seemed quite good (went right along with ATT loudly proclaiming it upgraded it's network). However, service has now declined to where it was before the rollout. If not worse.

As usual, ATT is the unenabler here. Guess they are too busy breaking privacy laws...

And I rarely use wi-fi. Combination of only willing to use trusted networks and actually wanting battery life.
 
Sigh... I've always been a Mac user (since days of my Performa 6200) and at first I was happy to hear about new people coming to the Mac. Now, I don't like it so much. More people I know having problems and blaming Apple. More incompetent people on the forms here. Crowded Apple stores that don't have that casual feeling (or free water). I miss the days of yore when finding a fellow Mac user was like finding a brother. We're losing our ability to give our Mac culture to these new switchers and will soon be over run by them. I guess we'll at least have our native apps and our demands will be listened to but so much of what we enjoy will be gone. :/

I feel your pain, but such is life.
Adapt or die, brother. ;)
 
As usual, ATT is the unenabler here. Guess they are too busy breaking privacy laws...

yeah, too bad Qwest is the only major carrier that seems not to running around throwing our personal data at whichever bush appointee asks for it first (or second or third or fourth or . . . ). would be nice to have a little competition of networks the iphone works on. darn that silly little exclusivity agreement!!
 
These are great numbers! Granted, there are only a few of them.. still.

Huh? They're tracking 160 million hits per month. That's PLENTY of numbers.

Of course, it doesn't say whether the web sites they've chosen are representative, but criticizing them on the basis of numbers doesn't make sense.
 
As an iPhone user, I am not surprised by statistics about mobile browsing. The fact that everyone has an unlimited data plan combined with an excellent browser, screen, and input device makes it a no-brainer.

The iPhone is really the first device of its kind that I would say strongly resembles browsing the web on a laptop or desktop. I attribute this largely to the multi-touch capability that makes the screen seem even larger than it actually is. As a result I use it to browse the web because "I can, and it is enjoyable" which happens a lot more frequently than "only as a last resort" which would be the case on other mobile platforms.

Very well said...
Happily can vs. last resort.
 
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