Loss of Tony Fadell, Forstall and Tevanian is a big blow to Apple. These individuals have been responsible for just not great work but have spawned an entire industry by themselves.
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Apple's 'Master Negotiator and Product Resuscitator' Eddy Cue Profiled
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Loss of Tony Fadell, Forstall and Tevanian is a big blow to Apple. These individuals have been responsible for just not great work but have spawned an entire industry by themselves.
Poor guy is going to have a big job to get maps up to where Google has their mapping program at. I wish him the best of luck and hope all of the job reassignments work out to improve Apple and upcoming products, both software and hardware.
With Jobs departure we are getting a better view of the other personalities at Apple.
Guess what, they are human after all. Just people trying to make things work.
A lot of fanboys have put the company on a pedestal and a lot of haters have demonized Apple. I think it's time we start see Apple from a more down to earth perspective, that they are for most part a relatively normal company - that just so happen to be able to make some pretty good stuff.
Guess what, they are human after all. Just people trying to make things work.
A lot of fanboys have put the company on a pedestal and a lot of haters have demonized Apple. I think it's time we start see Apple from a more down to earth perspective, that they are for most part a relatively normal company - that just so happen to be able to make some pretty good stuff.
It is a means to label some groups for affirmative action programs (reverse discrimination). Those who benefit from it self-label accordingly.
Here in CA it became so "hip" people started hyphenating their last names too. I mean way more often than the tiny amount that was happening before.
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I wouldn't consider the current "iCloud" something that anyone would want on their resume.
Exactly. The loss of Forstall's Jobs couldn't be Forstall'ed due to the loss of Jobs.
Edit: sorry, I see I'm not the only one with the bad puns.
It's easy to dismiss the hypen but the radification of all parts of the 14th Amendment (google it if you don't know what this is) by all states was not complete until 2003. There is no large scale voter fraud in US history, yet why is it so hard to vote in this country to this day, and who is it made hard for? Would any person question the President's birthplace if he wasn't dark skinned?
It may be hip to hyphenate one's last name, but one can't hyphenate the color of one's skin. If you have had anyone look at you in fear for no other reason than the color of your skin, then - you don't understand what it means to be "ethnic" or in a minority in this country. So when a woman or a person of color reaches a position of power it should be a celeberation for no other reason that buisnesses and society is beginning to look like the country I live in. Am I overly sensitive? You bet the hell I am.
Oh, but Forestall liked a leather stitched calendar, so he totally should go.
I think Forstall's Talent will be missed more than people think. Ive is talented, but he's not the father of iOS either and not a software developer.
It was Forstall who presented the rubber band effect that convinced Jobs to do the iPhone and iPad.
Everything Forstall was in charge of stagnated. I mean after years in the wild Siri is only marginally better than when first released and is still in beta. Seeing Forstall grinning away on stage demoing how Siri now 'understands sports' while the completion is overtaking you made me cringe and demoing 3D flyover on maps while much of the basic cartographic data and even 3D data was a mess is another low for Apple. Hopefully now we can get some decent quality into these services and see come real improvements in iOS.
Siri was clearly not ready at the time of the 4s release, yet it may have been forced to be ready to serve as a key selling point anyways. In this case, my key question would be, what was Steve doing, if he had still been as involved in product design as Apple claimed. He was still actively promoting icloud in WWDC2011, so wouldn't he have been working on the revised 4s at the same time?
I suspect Forstall too is a victim of circumstances himself. I think IOS, maps and siri may have been too much for his team to handle on their own, yet no warning flags were raised (for whatever reason). Could be that he was just too arrogant to seek help?
In any job, the best thing you can do is to deliver. The second best thing is to not deliver, but make everyone aware as early as possibly that you are not going to deliver, so that plans can be changed accordingly. The worst thing you can do is to say that you are going to deliver, and then not deliver.
It seems that is what Scott Forstall has done. The worst thing possible. And he was the man at the top, he is getting a huge salary to make things happen, and he didn't. Most people get paid to do their job as well as they can, and don't get paid much. Forstall gets paid a fortune, and he gets paid that fortune to deliver, and he didn't. He doesn't get paid a fortune to do a job as best as he can.
Hmmm. A person who brings up "birthers" and "racism" all in one sentence.
This President promised to be the most open in history. He is the most closed. He has not released records from his school and passport and original long form birth certificate. The layers of government have all these things, but he has the ability to make it public. He does not.
He promised to work across the isle and certainly not only didn't, and instructed his political allies in the Senate of the United States to follow suit in zero cooperation.
This, "my way or the highway" style is reminiscent of Steve Jobs and instructs us as to why some constituencies forsaked him for so long, topped by the Beatles, and inclusive of movie studios and TV concatenators.
Eduardo H. Cue has a decidedly more open and cooperative style.
This spills over to the recent Forstall miff. Scott is from the "Steve Jobs school" and that behavior is being culled out of Apple by Cook. Good or bad it is both visible and effective. Fast too.
The things that made Steve successful was a relentless attention to detail, and an ethic of skating to where the puck will be. He flommoxed everyone he competed with. All the conflict and noise was just overhead of dealing with Steve, and according to rumor, Scott too. Both NeXT-ers. Unnecessary overhead.
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Who was the person behind iOS and the SDK? Wasn't that great?
I thought it was Scott the one behind it?
Both are now things from the past anyway.
I thought it was Scott the one behind it?
Both are now things from the past anyway.
OK, wait. Your arguments seem to come from a right-wing perspective, and while there's nothing wrong with that I think that balance is needed:
1. Reverse discrimination is a ridiculous term. There is only discrimination. Ex. If a black man discriminates against a white man, then it is discrimination.
2. I would love to see some documentation that shows the ethnic hyphenated designation is "a means to label some groups for affirmative action programs" exclusively. At this point, I believe it is an issue of personal identity, heritage, demographics, etc, not necessarily tied to government programs. Knowing and sharing our heritage does not need to be a cause for contention; it could be a conversation starter, a means of establishing rapport, and maybe even providing appropriate services. For example, I cannot tell Asians apart, so if I speak Japanese to a Korean man it'd be somewhat embarrassing..
3. The Spanish naming convention dictates that the child's last name will consist of the father's first last name and the mother's first last name. For example, someone whose last name is Diaz Vega marries a woman whose last name is Johnson, then their children's last names would be Diaz Johnson. The hyphen is not necessary in Spanish-speaking countries or territories of the US, but it creates a great deal of confusion when brought stateside. Ex. People would confuse the first last name as the middle name, and generate documents erroneously. Therefore, by using the hyphen, the first and second last name are tied into a single entity and reduces the confusion. Given California's large Hispanic population, this could explain the rise of it's use.
Whether or not the hyphen is being used for "hipness" sake, well, I cannot comment on that. But I am curious as to how you arrived at that conclusion..
If it was too much to handle then Forstall should have grown the teams and made sure that the thing was done on time or made sure that the timelines were rational in the first place, that is what management is all about. He doesn't write this software himself he only manages the process and provides direction. In both respects he has been doing a pretty poor job, the lack of quality in iOS6 is obvious and provided the tipping point that there was no way to recover from. This guy was being paid a fortune and you only do that as a company when you have demonstrably outstanding people.
You ask what what Steve was doing, well I can imagine he had a lot on his mind owing to the fact that he was very ill and didn't have long left to live. After Steve was no longer around it is clear that the rot set in very quickly in iOS, the completion has been allowed to catch up and in some areas overtake. The UI is becoming a mess and there are so many obvious problems that software development processes should not have allowed to happen. Forstall as the leader should have been making sure these processes were bullet proof rather than getting involved with things all over Apple that didn't concern him and pissing a lot of other people off.
The term reverse discrimination is a term of art to indicate a specific form:
reverse discrimination - noun - the unfair treatment of members of majority groups resulting from preferential policies, as in college admissions or employment, intended to remedy earlier discrimination against minorities.
However I agree there is generally only discrimination.
I specifically talked about people who self-label, ie. African-American. It is notable who doesn't commonly self-label, such as Scottish-Americans, probably because there are no affirmative action (discrimination) programs aimed at them by the U.S. federal government.
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1. Agreed. Your referenced definition for "reverse discrimination" is very good and I concede that it is very specific to majority groups. I still find the term ridiculous, but admit it is valid to use it in the context you expressed.
2. I don't know how you arrived at "self-label"; maybe I've missed something in my research on the subject. However, I feel that the terms are harmless, and can be used in positive ways, as I expressed before. I feel that the focus on ethnic identifiers such as these should not tied to political/governmental issues exclusively, even if initially it may have been so. Moreover, the terms can be used for the purposes of demographics to more accurately describe the distribution of all ethnic groups, including those belonging to the majority groups. There is nothing wrong with knowing someone's cultural background; with the right attitude these ethnic identifiers make things easier and even enjoyable. Too many folks see them as a negative, and that is simply a matter of focus.
"That's mighty white of you."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Play_the_white_man
Since you are a mere forum post to me there is no context to presume other than the primary meaning as used.
LOL. Wow.
Thanks for clarifying for me that you were never interested in civil and rational conversation, but petulance.
Very well then. I will make an effort to ignore your comments and posts in the future.
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