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Can't wait for this now...I hated my 6+ and hate my 6s and cannot wait to get back to a 4" handset!

I know of a few other people who are looking at chopping out a 6/6+/6s/6s+ for this SE as well ... I think quite a few will hold it and realise it's more natural and comfortable and pocketable!
Yes, because the 4.7 is that big!how can you put that in your pocket.
I understand people want a smaller iPhone , don' t get me wrong. But it is so exaggerated . The 4.7 isn' t that much bigger as a 5s.
And I really don' t understand people that wanted a 4 inch and ended up getting a 6+, and want to switch back now. What were they thinking?
 
They had to push the event back a week because they havent had any MacBook Pro leaks yet.
 
Retro is the future! Good news for those who appreciate old school styling - and hate cutting edge market leading design. That is SO this year! Bad news if you had no intention of going over to Android!
 
The exclusion of 3D touch means two things to me....

1. The tech is expensive and complicated to just throw at any device.
2. The tech is not as revolutionary as first marketed and apple doesn't plan on moving forward with it.....
 
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I have to say this ... I think it will be a dissapointing event if that's all it ends up being (plus some watch bands, processor upgrades, and an updated iPad we should have seen at the last event), even though I am personally looking forward to getting the new 4" iPhone.

That said, I will be surprised if there's a huge demand for the new phone. I expect it to sell really well, but if Apple sells out within minutes of the online pre-order, and takes a few weeks to fill the initial demand, I may finally call BS on their launch tactics. Again, I think the 4" phone will sell well, but I have no expectations that the 40-50% of those currently using 4" or smaller phones, are going to race out to upgrade to this, especially if the specs aren't flagship. Nor do I think that many 6 or 6s customers will step back.

I expect that I will be able to walk into my local Apple Store and walk out with whichever configuration I want within a week of its release, with no problems.
It's all a matter of perspective. I've been waiting for an updated 5S for 2+ years so I'm excited about it. The apple watch/event? I could have cared less.
 
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Jesus Christ.... does it really have to have 3D Touch to be considered "flagship" to you people??
Lol, the processor & camera of the 6S & you people act like it's a rebadged 3GS!

Technically it would b/c a "flagship" product is the one that has every feature the company offers in that product line. The term "flagship" is borrowed from the naval use of the work. The "flagship" in navy terms is the lead ship of a group of ships, and is the biggest, most technologically advanced of the lot.
 
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Technically it would b/c a "flagship" product is the one that has every feature the company offers in that product line. The term "flagship" is borrowed from the naval use of the work. The "flagship" in navy terms is the lead ship of a group of ships, and is the biggest, most technologically advanced of the lot.

touche.

Also, I guess people should REALLY give up on that from a 4" phone then, seeing as even the 4.7" does not have room for OIS...
 
Am I the only one that sees "SE" could easily have been a confused "5E"? I think it would be odd to have a 5SE or just an SE, but we have had a 5, 5S and 5C, so I'm thinking perhaps the phone will actually be called a 5E. I guess we'll have to wait another 3+ weeks to find out. I love my 6 for the record, but I have two family members one with a 5 and one with a 5S that say they will absolutely not go to a larger phone. Hopefully this new phone will work for their needs as those two phones are obviously getting very old.

The only problem I see with the 5 SE is that its difficult to justify the upgrade from 5S, I mean the 5S is so good, fast and responsive that the I think I can go with mine for 2 more years (maybe more) without sacrificing anything. Even if they upgrade the camera, the CPU and include a faster touchID I cant see how it will make me want to throw money when I have everything that I need and more with my 5S.

Additionally, I think it will be called iPhone 6E or similar. There is no way Apple would release a phone under the two years old iPhone 5 brand. Its complete no sense. Having iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S and iPhone 6S+ there is no space for something called iPhone 5 SE.
 
Jesus Christ.... does it really have to have 3D Touch to be considered "flagship" to you people??
Lol, the processor & camera of the 6S & you people act like it's a rebadged 3GS!
I personally never use force touch and don't find it beneficial. "Popping" a window in Safari is the only use but then my finger is in the middle of the damn screen and I can't see the preview.
[doublepost=1456769561][/doublepost]Unrelated, VERIZON Wifi calling comes out (non beta) on March 28th.
 
Do we have any more info on Watch 2? Also, is no redesign confirmed? Was planning to buy one, but wanted to wait out just to make sure that they don't announce it this keynote.
As long as it's not a redesign and just a S version of the watch, I thought I'd get one now, and use it till it's redesigned.
Side note - Withings watch broke.
Exactly a scenario I've been pondering. Let's face it, 'new Apple Watchbands' sounds so lame, does that even need a special introduction?

Since so much attention is directed towards iPhones and MacBooks, would it be possible they've secretly and under the radar worked on AppleWatch2. Also with so much apparent inventory, Apple would have a good reason not to 'controlled-leak' an updated Watch, lest they get stuck with tons of gen1 devices. The holy grail would be a FaceTime camera and for totally iPhone-independent use an included WiFi chip and NFC.

If they were able to pull that off, it would be the greatest Apple secrecy coup of recent years.

And then I was rudely awakened from my dream......
 
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The only problem I see with the 5 SE is that its difficult to justify the upgrade from 5S, I mean the 5S is so good, fast and responsive that the I think I can go with mine for 2 more years (maybe more) without sacrificing anything. Even if they upgrade the camera, the CPU and include a faster touchID I cant see how it will make me want to throw money when I have everything that I need and more with my 5S.

Additionally, I think it will be called iPhone 6E or similar. There is no way Apple would release a phone under the two years old iPhone 5 brand. Its complete no sense. Having iPhone 6, iPhone 6+, iPhone 6S and iPhone 6S+ there is no space for something called iPhone 5 SE.

Is the 5S your first iPhone? I ask because at some point software updates tend to render old iPhones useless, even if apple claims the phones will work with the latest software update. I think there is a lawsuit from iPhone 4 (or 4S?) users that claim iOS8 (or 9 or 7 or somewhere in there) drastically slowed down their phones. The 5S is a great phone and works great with iOS9, but how well it does (or doesn't) work with iOS10 will have to remain a mystery until that software update is released. Its best to stay as current as you can afford with such technology in my opinion. I hope I'm wrong, hopefully the 5S will still be a great phone for many for many years to come!
 
I disagree about a facetime camera. Although initially it sounds useful, the immediate result would be the banning of all watches from all sorts of public places -- swimming pools etc. Already the apple watch resulted in all watches having to be removed in examinations.

Sadly, although there are places where a facetime camera would be good on the watch, there are too many downsides to it and I suspect Apple have thought these through. I hope they have anyway. The quality would be average at best anyway, and it would use up a significant amount of case and bezel space which would be better filled with battery (or made thinner).
 
I disagree about a facetime camera. Although initially it sounds useful, the immediate result would be the banning of all watches from all sorts of public places -- swimming pools etc. Already the apple watch resulted in all watches having to be removed in examinations.

No it wouldn't. Do they ban iPhones from swimming pools? And why would the Watch result in the banning of all watches in (medical?) examinations? On what are you basing such a claim?

Sadly, although there are places where a facetime camera would be good on the watch, there are too many downsides to it and I suspect Apple have thought these through. I hope they have anyway. The quality would be average at best anyway, and it would use up a significant amount of case and bezel space which would be better filled with battery (or made thinner).

Again, what are these so-called disadvantages of which you speak, that Apple has "thought through"?

Also, your assertions of quality, limited space, and use are based on what?
 
No it wouldn't. Do they ban iPhones from swimming pools? And why would the Watch result in the banning of all watches in (medical?) examinations? On what are you basing such a claim?

Again, what are these so-called disadvantages of which you speak, that Apple has "thought through"?

Also, your assertions of quality, limited space, and use are based on what?

Eek! Ok, I'll try to defend some of those points. I'm not sure whether you're just attacking them or putting forward another case, but nevertheless:

They ban the visible use of smartphones from swimming pools, yes. And in a number of other places (more often in more paranoid countries, to be sure, but they exist nonetheless). However, a facetime camera on a watch is an entirely different thing from an iphone. You cannot easily take video in a public changing room with a camera, but with a watch many people would be completely unaware they were being filmed.

Watches of all types are already banned in university examinations in many countries. The examiners cannot be expected to know which ones are capable of being used for communications, and so impose a blanket ban. This is mildly annoying but not the end of the world. With the advent of video on watches everything becomes far more serious. And again, look at the US response to Google Glass. The product was effectively shut down by the possibility that people would film unnoticed in public. The same will happen with the apple watch, and it's likely many other smart watches (including, for example, the apple watch 1) will be included in that blanket response.

Those are the disadvantages of which I speak. I predict that soon after the launch of an apple watch 2 with facetime camera, the use of even non-camera watches will be restricted by public demand.

Quality of a facetime camera relates to the size of the screen available. To show both the incoming and outgoing video is pushing it for a 38mm screen. Limited space and use are based on the size of an appropriate camera (say, something between the size of the one in the rMB and the one in the iphone) would take up a significant proportion of the space within the apple watch. The apple watch could do with both being thinner and having more battery life (IMHO), and thus giving up significant potential space within the watch is something I'd not be as happy with, compared with increasing the battery size or making it thinner.

That's pretty much what I said, I think. What points were you making?
 
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if this march 21st date is true shouldn't invites be going out next week? no later then march 10th
 
They ban the visible use of smartphones from swimming pools, yes. And in a number of other places (more often in more paranoid countries, to be sure, but they exist nonetheless). However, a facetime camera on a watch is an entirely different thing from an iphone. You cannot easily take video in a public changing room with a camera, but with a watch many people would be completely unaware they were being filmed.

Well if they ban visible use of cell phones in swimming pools, then what's the problem with visible use of watches? I presume they don't ban the actual smartphone, right? If someone is taking your picture with a watch, it's going to visible and obvious. Moreover, why are you wearing a smartwatch to a swimming pool when it's not rated for swimming?

And yes you can easily take video in a changing room with an iPhone without anyone noticing, that's why some gyms ban the use of iPhones at all in changing rooms. That has nothing to do with a watch which will be even more obvious that someone is taking a picture considering how it will have to be held.

Watches of all types are already banned in university examinations in many countries. The examiners cannot be expected to know which ones are capable of being used for communications, and so impose a blanket ban. This is mildly annoying but not the end of the world. With the advent of video on watches everything becomes far more serious. And again, look at the US response to Google Glass. The product was effectively shut down by the possibility that people would film unnoticed in public. The same will happen with the apple watch, and it's likely many other smart watches (including, for example, the apple watch 1) will be included in that blanket response.

Ah, school exams. Well as far as I know smartphones are banned in school exams as well. This is just the price of technology. I don't see how video is far more serious in such a situation since the watch is already banned because of communication.

Google glass was not shut down because of the camera only. And that was a completely different situation as the camera was clearly pointed at its subject, but people didn't know whether it was recording or not and that was uncomfortable for some people. If a watch is used to photograph others, it will be easily spotted thanks to the awkward unnatural contortions a wearer must put their arm into to do it.

Those are the disadvantages of which I speak. I predict that soon after the launch of an apple watch 2 with facetime camera, the use of even non-camera watches will be restricted by public demand.

Smart watches with camera already exist. Doesn't seem to be a problem.

Quality of a facetime camera relates to the size of the screen available. To show both the incoming and outgoing video is pushing it for a 38mm screen. Limited space and use are based on the size of an appropriate camera (say, something between the size of the one in the rMB and the one in the iphone) would take up a significant proportion of the space within the apple watch. The apple watch could do with both being thinner and having more battery life (IMHO), and thus giving up significant potential space within the watch is something I'd not be as happy with, compared with increasing the battery size or making it thinner.

the watch is a convenience. There are going to be some compromises with FaceTime, but then it's not intended for protracted conversations. I would be surprised if a user camera feed is even necessary in such a conversation, but certainly even a tiny window would serve the purpose without much sacrifice of the primary image. You say the camera would take a significant portion of the space without taking into account technological advancements and what Apple has access to that you don't. You realize the camera in any given Apple product is about 3 year old tech. And not everyone wants a thinner watch, and as long as battery isn't compromised, the small gain the camera space might offer is not likely enough to warrant the loss of the improvements.

There are so many things having a camera will benefit, over these manufactured FUD concerns you express here.
 
Nothing new or interesting...Apple really seems to be falling behind everything and I'm looking forward to avail iPhone new Apple Watch new MacBook desktop all seems to be going in slow motion . I'm really disappointed that that new oculus rift won't be supported by Apple. Even the new iPad Pro real disappointment and I will return mine and my wife's back to the store, the operating system just wasn't ready for prime time as a laptop Replacement like Tim Cook said.

My laptop, tablet, desktop and phone are dated and needs replacement I am seriously considering switching platforms for the first time in 12 years. The watch will be a loss, but might be able to sell it.
 
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I just want to say 'I told you so' to the Best Buy employee who insists that Apple Watch 2 is coming this month. He said 'wanna bet?' I should've said yes.

I want to see what the pricing is for the Air 2/Pro. If it's not worth the price, I will go ahead and buy an Air 2 again.
 
I just want to say 'I told you so' to the Best Buy employee who insists that Apple Watch 2 is coming this month. He said 'wanna bet?' I should've said yes.
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Because you've time traveled to the future, and know Apple is absolutely not introducing new watch hardware, even a speed bumped processor?
 
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