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Situation 1: Apple releases an iPhone 5.
- We all wait for release, and we have the glorious phone that we've all been wanting.

Situation 2: Apple releases only a 4S.
- We all go to ATT or Best Buy or wherever and get the Samsung Galaxy S2 on October 4th.

Can't really go wrong either way.

My prediction from weeks ago still stands. The 4S exists. But it is a world-mode iPhone 4 that will sell for $99 along with a brand new iPhone 5.

There's something I'm having trouble figuring out. And it's not specifically you, most people in this thread so far are guilty of it. What exactly is it about a redesigned outer shell that makes enough of a difference to influence whether you stick with the platform or jump ship? Whether it looks new or it looks like an iPhone 4, the internals and upgrades are bound to be nearly identical. Why is everyone putting so much weight on just the appearance of the phone?
 
N90 and N94

So with the phones reported yesterday and the N94 today, that makes two models. Apple is known to use older iphone shells to test new hardware, so the N94 pic may be just that. I don't know how anyone can forget that an anonymous Apple employee has already confirmed a new redesigned iphone is coming out through the New York Times. Now matter what other BS comes out, that was the biggest confirmation for me that all the other nonsense is false. Everyone else can believe what they want to believe. It appears that only the analysts have been denying the existence of a revamped iphone 5, while Apple employees have confirmed it. I think I'll go with what the APPLE EMPLOYEE has stated instead, and leave the rest behind. Good luck to the rest of you ;)
 
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From what my friend at Apple R& D told me before he left, this iPhone is supposed to be a minor refresh. This was, however, when the iPhone release was only pushed back to August, not October.

Hopefully there's something else that Apple will have...NFC, bigger screen, something. Otherwise, iOS5 better be absolutely mind-boggling.
 
i've gone iPhone->iPhone 3G->iPhone 3GS (waited for a white iPhone 4, it came out so late, waiting for 5...stopped working last month)->iPhone 3G

if it's an "iPhone 4S" i really don't know what holds me to iPhone 4S instead of SGS2...
 
So with the phones reported yesterday and the N94 today, that makes two models. Apple is known to use older iphone shells to test new hardware, so the N94 pic may be just that. I don't know how anyone can forget that an anonymous Apple employee has already confirmed a new redesigned iphone is coming out through the New York Times. Now matter what other BS comes out, that was the biggest confirmation for me that all the other nonsense is false. Everyone else can believe what they want to believe. It appears that only the analysts have been denying the existence of a revamped iphone 5, while Apple employees have confirmed it. I think I'll go with what the APPLE EMPLOYEE has stated instead, and leave the rest behind. Good luck to the rest of you ;)
Link to the article?
 
There's something I'm having trouble figuring out. And it's not specifically you, most people in this thread so far are guilty of it. What exactly is it about a redesigned outer shell that makes enough of a difference to influence whether you stick with the platform or jump ship? Whether it looks new or it looks like an iPhone 4, the internals and upgrades are bound to be nearly identical. Why is everyone putting so much weight on just the appearance of the phone?

Lets see.....in a nut shell, most people want a bigger screen. Small screens are becoming a thing of the past, considering the new abilities to surf the internet and watch movies and video on an actual phone. Its not that hard to figure out brother.
 
There's something I'm having trouble figuring out. And it's not specifically you, most people in this thread so far are guilty of it. What exactly is it about a redesigned outer shell that makes enough of a difference to influence whether you stick with the platform or jump ship? Whether it looks new or it looks like an iPhone 4, the internals and upgrades are bound to be nearly identical. Why is everyone putting so much weight on just the appearance of the phone?

Because people want to make the others conscious that they have the latest and greatest if they switch from an i4 to an i4S, or at least feel like they're holding a new piece of tech and not a speedbump. And why should anybody care about a speedbump in a phone? The i4 runs everything perfectly fine, and nobody is going to buy an i4S because it's an i4 with supercharged hardware to run ONE feature, the vocal assistant or whatever is its name.

And same design means same screen. By far the biggest disappointment.
 
There's something I'm having trouble figuring out. And it's not specifically you, most people in this thread so far are guilty of it. What exactly is it about a redesigned outer shell that makes enough of a difference to influence whether you stick with the platform or jump ship? Whether it looks new or it looks like an iPhone 4, the internals and upgrades are bound to be nearly identical. Why is everyone putting so much weight on just the appearance of the phone?

I'm not 100% into a redesign of the body...I definitely want one, but my HUGE thing now is the screen. I NEED a bigger screen. If they deliver that, I'll probably be in regardless of if the body is the same as the 4 or not.

I played with the GS2, and the screen was glorious. It has tainted my view of the 3.5"

I think for those people who do want a body redesign, it's mostly just for changes sake. I don't like the 4 design just because it's too sharp to hold. I like the curved edges. Every Apple product is curvy, why isn't the iPhone?
 
I honestly think this is false.. Or something to help throw us off.. When has Apple EVER put an unreleased product in their inventory systems before it launches? Come on people. Think. Apple is doing this just to throw us off. To make us believe that theirs only going to be 1 phone.. Their will be 2. an iPhone 5 will be shown off with a new design
 
I'm convinced there will be a redesigned iPhone and a speedbumped iPhone 4.

If not, and only an iPhone 4S, then Amazon wins the month in geek.
So do I!

But, with all the proof we're getting, I can't say I will be surprised if Apple will only unveil the iPhone 4S. :(
 
I feel that if this is the case, then Apple has their priorities completely wrong. The iPhone is worth half of Apple's business, and if the world's #1 tech company can't come up with a 4" retina display, and a new and ergonomic form factor (without glass), after a year and a half, then it's just pathetic.

When it comes to form factors, hasn't Apple always been conservative in refreshes in the last decade?

new iPhone designs: 2007, 2008, 2010.
new iPod touch designs: 2007, 2008, 2010.
new iPod "classic designs: 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2007
new professional notebook designs: 2003, 2008.
iMac: 2002, 2004, 2007, 2009.
Mac Mini: 2005, 2010

The only outlier is the iPod nano, which has been tweaked on an annual basis probably due to not being satisfied with it.

We can complain about no new form factor, but it should not be unexpected. Likewise, I imagine the chorus of dissenters will be present when the iPad 3 looks exactly the same as the iPad 2.

This is not being sympathetic to Apple, just pointing out that nobody should be surprised by no redesign.
 
Hah!

What's funny is that the iPhone4s have been selling like hotcakes. Why wouldn't they speed bump an existing design and rest on their laurels a bit? They'll still sell and this gives them more time to work on the next real iphone release for next year when my 2 year contract is up.

It is all about me, don't you know.
 
I feel that if this is the case, then Apple has their priorities completely wrong. The iPhone is worth half of Apple's business, and if the world's #1 tech company can't come up with a 4" retina display, and a new and ergonomic form factor (without glass), after a year and a half, then it's just pathetic.

I cannot believe how arrogant Apple would be to release just a spec-bumped iPhone 4. I honestly want the next iPhone to fail, I want Apple to get major competition for consumer smartphone experience. Maybe then they'll finally deliver..

Apple's priority, like any business, is to make money. If this new phone is just a refined iPhone 4, from their perspective they've got a common model across all carriers, including overseas, in a form factor they've been producing for awhile that they can now make for less money than a new design. Top it off with a new operating system that will answer many functional complaints the naysayers have of the existing phones, and I don't see how one could argue against their priorities. Any of the rumored redesigns are simply icing on the cake in my eyes because I look at the overall functionality of the phone as still being the best experience of any cell phone on the market.....

They don't need to take design advice from you.
 
There you have it folks, only reason for the delay was the software.

I'm guessing, based on the case designs out there, that a true "iPhone 5" exists, but that they ran into problems with it during pre-production and pushed everything back to try and get it out.

Whatever was wrong probably couldn't be corrected in time, resulting in them pushing out this crap upgrade -- calling it "iPhone 5" and holding off on the needed redesign until next fall.

They needed to have a new product out there for the holiday buying season, so we get the scraps left over.
 
It gets more exciting every day and I can't stand this all crap..
Can someone please fast forward time to 4th October so we just get to know if there is going to be iPhone 5 or not once and for all. This gets really annoying..
 
Why is everyone parroting iPhone 4S? It will never be called that! The only way is to mark a speed-bump in an iPhone 4 that is re-released along with an iPhone 5.

First phone: iPhone
2nd phone: iPhone 3G (to show it had 3G instead of 2G - if it was iPhone 2, then people would think that it was a 2G phone)
3rd phone: iPhone 3GS (so Apple could could keep the number 3 in the 3rd phone to play catchup with numbering schemes)

4th phone iPhone 4

5th phone: Will be the iPhone 5.
 
Why is everyone parroting iPhone 4S?

First phone: iPhone
2nd phone: iPhone 3G (to show it had 3G instead of 2G - if it was iPhone 2, then people would think that it was a 2G phone)
3rd phone: iPhone 3GS (so Apple could could keep the number 3 in the 3rd phone to play catchup with numbering schemes)

4th phone iPhone 4

5th phone: Will be the iPhone 5.

Because we have different opinions. Is that ok?
 
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My bet... iOS 5, iPhone 5 (pre)order on the 5th... iPhone 4 turns into iPhone 4S
I hope I'm right but probably wrong :(

If I'm wrong I feel REALLY bad for Tim Cook.
 
So if this is really real, I will wait for the new Samsung Galaxy S3. This will be real then!!
 
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