No... its not. Just reading the last few pages back you will see the results others have posted with other software / hardware configs.
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No... its not. Just reading the last few pages back you will see the results others have posted with other software / hardware configs.
Hm, I am not sure I understand your point. I am comparing two C2D boxes, which is what most recent Macs have. One runs Os 10.6.1, the other runs Windows 7.
Safari consistently causes significantly higher CPU and memory usage, compared to the other browsers tested. This is both in OS 10.6.1 and in Windows 7.
It's particularly crazy, that for HD in OS 10.6.1 Safari runs at CPU 67%-77% (209.8MB Real Mem), while with the same video Firefox runs at CPU 43%-44% (99MB Real Mem). You would think Apple can optimize its own browser better than that.
It is also significant, that in Windows 7, IE8 runs the same video at mostly CPU 1%-3% (it actually does mostly 1%, and at times 0%) while Safari runs at CPU 15%-20% (occasional spike to 25%).
It means, that Apple is being sloppy, or incompetent, in implementing Flash into Safari.
Safari is currently my default browser on all my Macs, as well as on my two Windows boxes. But after running this test, I am seriously considering dumping Safari (it also has Java issues, in my experience.)
I have a 21.5" and 27" affected by this
Which 21" do you have? the ATI or NVidia one? Is it a video card issue?
I'm was about to order one of the 21" iMac. What's everyone's advice? Should I wait? take a chance?
I have an iMac now that has some problems (crashes unexpectedly) and it's such a pain...
Safari is 64-bit and will use twice the memory a 32-bit browser would use (I think, I might be wrong), were the other browsers you tested it against 64-bit?
With Windows 7, if it's 32-bit then I assume the browsers tested would have had to all been 32-bit, but if it was 64-bit I'm not sure, you may have been running a 64-bit version of Safari and 32-bit version of the other browsers or visa versa.
Higher CPU? doing what?
Administrate a few Linux workstations ever week.
The only things Distros do differently is package management. Otherwise they are essentially identical. I used They're because most distros come standard with FF or a Mozilla Variant and they use NSPluginWrapper to run flash.
Its not a universal problem? Google is an easy tool.
http://www.google.com/search?client...apper+crashes+playing+flash&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
The disconnect has been obvious for years now, ever since Adobe's keyboard shortcuts started clashing with established, well-known Apple ones. Honestly, how does one set a keyboard command in their software, and never notice that the function never works, but their dock keeps disappearing?!
My incontrovertible equation: Adobe + monopoly = The New Microsoft.
Playing the same Flash video. See this: https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/8739278/
I just tested the same video in Windows 7 on both the latest Chrome, and Firefox 3.6 Beta 1.
Both rand the SD video at about 5%-6% CPU, and the HD video at about 7%-8% CPU load.
Interesting, that Chrome, which is also Webkit, does sooo much better than Safari.
That's funny; it works fine on every one of the workstations I administrate, and that's a lot more than a "few". 32-bit and 64-bit. And how about toning down the pretentious attitude?
And if you think all that's different in distributions is how they do package management, you might want to Google that. Here's a starting article to read.
http://www.softwareinreview.com/linux_guides/the_differences_between_linux_distributions.html
Yeah, they all use a variant of the Linux kernel. But how they use it, what modifications are made, what libraries are included, if they use proprietary code or not, etc. all have drastic effects on how well the distribution works.
Why should the number that we personally do matter? You're using it as a distraction.
Because you're alluding to Flash being bad on Linux as a universal (meaning all) problem, and it is not.
It also quite pisses me off that I was in no way rude to you, yet you felt the need to be quite rude to me; I know, it's a common attitude around here, but I didn't think it was necessary.
If you can understand that it may be a problem on many Linux distributions and/or machines, that's fine. But it is most definitely not all distributions, because as I said I do not have problems with it like you apparently do. Either that or I must have a miracle network and all of the workstations are blessed by the Flash Fairy and work, whereas all other Linux machines are cursed. Yeah, I'm sure that's what it is.
All of you saying that every mac running SL has a problem with Flash, step back, 'cos I'm about to throw some holy water on your unbelieving faces! Flash runs fine on my lowly Mac Pro (vintage 2006) running SL 10.6.1. Thank you.
For what it's worth...
I just opened up my new 21.5" iMac w/ Nvidia about an hour ago. Shipped with 10.6.1 and used Software Update to update everything including the performance patch.
Without installing any programs whatsoever, and also not transferring data from my old Mac, I went directly to YouTube to test it out. Watched a trailer for Invictus in HD. Video lagged similar to the video MR used for this news topic and processor consistently ran at ~66% and spiked to 85% at one point.
Everything on this computer is what Apple preinstalled and it can't even play an HD trailer smoothly. Regardless of the BS reasons anybody can think of to deflect blame solely on Adobe, this is simply unacceptable.
I just opened up my new 21.5" iMac w/ Nvidia about an hour ago. Shipped with 10.6.1 and used Software Update to update everything including the performance patch.
Without installing any programs whatsoever, and also not transferring data from my old Mac, I went directly to YouTube to test it out. Watched a trailer for Invictus in HD. Video lagged similar to the video MR used for this news topic and processor consistently ran at ~66% and spiked to 85% at one point.
Everything on this computer is what Apple preinstalled and it can't even play an HD trailer smoothly. Regardless of the BS reasons anybody can think of to deflect blame solely on Adobe, this is simply unacceptable.
Not SL, but OS X in general. Flash ran like crap on my old CoreDuo iMac (10.4, 10.5) and it runs like crap on my new Core2Duo iMac (10.6). It also runs like crap on my CoreDuo MacBook (10.4, 10.5 & 10.6).
Adobe's OS X development these days is just embarrassingly bad.
Its not a problem with Distros, STOP TALKING ABOUT LINUX DISTROS. Its a problem with the Firefox/Mozilla Engine and NSPluginWrapper.
You can come across as blunt as well.
I just opened up my new 21.5" iMac w/ Nvidia about an hour ago. Shipped with 10.6.1 and used Software Update to update everything including the performance patch.
Without installing any programs whatsoever, and also not transferring data from my old Mac, I went directly to YouTube to test it out. Watched a trailer for Invictus in HD. Video lagged similar to the video MR used for this news topic and processor consistently ran at ~66% and spiked to 85% at one point.
Everything on this computer is what Apple preinstalled and it can't even play an HD trailer smoothly. Regardless of the BS reasons anybody can think of to deflect blame solely on Adobe, this is simply unacceptable.
Sayonara ....Apple has lost me , as much as I hate to continue with Windows . The " It just works " days are at an end it seems . It's all about the root of all evil - money . Bye bye . Some will continue to drink the Apple flavored Kool Aid I assume ...Good luck with that . Thanks to all who have responded to my multitudinous threads with questions , etc...May you all receive trouble free Apple machines ... I am
Since we're setting sail to anecdote-land, my dad just called and was telling me how many of his apps post 2000 do not run in Win7, even those from as late as 2005. Wow, that's awesome!
The problem exists on both sides of the fence.
That's just not true. Can run in app in backwards compatibility mode. They're all backwards compatible and you can even select which type of OS you want it to operate in XP/95 etc.
Flash isn't going away. It's accepted by almost everyone as a standard. It even runs on Windows Mobile and even Droid/Android Mobile systems BUT NOT ON MY IPHONE! It really ticks me off that Apple just acts like these aren't their problems but they are... it's Apple's deal to make this work! Even if they have to emulate a damn WINDOWS PC to make them work!
Sayonara ....Apple has lost me , as much as I hate to continue with Windows . The " It just works " days are at an end it seems . It's all about the root of all evil - money . Bye bye . Some will continue to drink the Apple flavored Kool Aid I assume ...Good luck with that . Thanks to all who have responded to my multitudinous threads with questions , etc...May you all receive trouble free Apple machines ... I am
Do you actually own a mac? Have you ever owned one?
Seeyanara!
P.S.
If all you ppl care about is youtube, get yourselves a cheap netbook and quit whining! Otherwise get a mac. Apple will be there for you. And oh BTW, they won't outsource their support to Bangalore the way Microsoft does. Trust me, in time you'll come to appreciate being able to talk to a knowledgeable, English speaking tech instead of some clueless pariah who's wandered off the street into a MSFT call center.
Here is another new thread on the Apple discussions board with 2 videos that show severe lagging - not only in flash:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2218059&tstart=0
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2218059&tstart=0
Watashi wa apporo* ga daisuki desu.
*I dont know if its a o or a u.
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