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Apple's New Dock Connector with 8 Pins? Cross-Device Integration via Bluetooth 4.0?

mentalradio said:
If you look at the two attached images, you'll notice that the speaker grills are 'flipped around' between the black phone and white phone.

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mentalradio said:
And The speaker jack is flipped around as well!
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That second image isn't a real iPhone. It is very good render of an assembled iPhone. So I wouldn't read too much into the speaker grill, as the person doing the render was guessing the orientation.

EDIT: Looks like I was beaten by Tom8 on this explanation.
 
AppleNewsTech said:
Like I've been saying in previous threads, the leaked iPhone five design is fake. I know this because they have a 19 pin dock connector on the end of the device that has been leaked so far. If the new one is going to be 8 pins, then this one was a fake decoy leaked by Apple and was their way of throwing us off of the real, all-new, radically change design that is going to come in the next iPhone.
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You must have amazing eyes, because there is no way that by just looking at the picture you can tell that the rumored phones have 19 pin connectors or 18 pin connectors.
 
TimAlia said:
The Apple iPhone-paired wristwatch is coming.

Seriously... all the evidence points to it.

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After the wristwatch is released, Samsung will release their own wristwatch phone companion.

All evidence points to iHaters then responding that Samsung did not copy Apple, but somehow the reverse.
 
basesloaded190 said:
You must have amazing eyes, because there is no way that by just looking at the picture you can tell that the rumored phones have 19 pin connectors or 18 pin connectors.
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the prevailing rumour was the the new "micro-dock" would be a 19 pin connector
 
mentalradio said:
If you look at the two attached images, you'll notice that the speaker grills are 'flipped around' between the black phone and white phone.

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Any significance?
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The first picture combines actual physical parts that may have leaked from a production facility in China. The second is an older computer generated rendering of what one person thought that the new iPhone might look like.
 
commander.data said:
Now that USB3.0 is finally built into Macs, has their been any rumours that the new Dock Connector will support USB3.0 transfers? Smaller size, fewer pins, and dual orientation are all good features, but USB3.0 support is the most important for me.
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As discussed ad infinitum, USB 3 won't make a noticeable difference to the speed. The flash memory in the iPhone is the bottleneck.
 
basesloaded190 said:
Really? The most important. I know it sucks when you first have to transfer everything to a new phone, but how often would you really need faster speeds when you plug your phone into your computer?
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Admittedly it could be classified more as a weekly feature than a daily feature, but faster speed would definitely useful when backing up large app purchases like games which can be more than a gigabyte now as well as when I change out my movie selection on the device which can work out into tens of gigabytes. USB3.0 also defines higher power ratings for faster charging on computers without high-power USB 2.0 ports (namely PCs).
 
twochoicestom said:
Talk of a watch is nonsense. It'll be syncing whilst on standby overnight with your mac... I reckon.
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The Pebble Smartwatch has raised more funding on Kickstarter than any other project, so there is demand for a phone integrated smartwatch. That combined with the popularity of the iPod nano as a watch, it would be almost a no-brainer for Apple to come out with a iPod nano smartwatch that connects to your iPhone. It would be relatively easy for Apple to implement also. They could provide the capability, open it up to the App store and let the developers do the rest. I'd buy one in an absolute heartbeat. Imagine being able to screen and answer calls without taking your iPhone out of your pocket, read texts, dictate texts, use Siri, etc etc. It would be a killer product.
 
mentalradio said:
If you look at the two attached images, you'll notice that the speaker grills are 'flipped around' between the black phone and white phone.

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Any significance?
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Yes, the second one isn't an actual picture, it's a 3D model a guy made and is now selling on TurboSquid.

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I will only buy the next iPhone if it has at least a 19 pins connector.

8 pins just aren't enough, I might buy a Samsung if it has 8 pins.
 
w00master said:
Yes, because the idea of a wristwatch phone companion is so unique to just Apple.

:rolleyes:
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This is not available yet.

There is no over-the-counter wristwatch that can pair with a phone available today.

Just because you can dream up something does not mean that you can make a working version. These are two different things.

I guess that when cell phones become small enough for wrist watches, and they're actually produced, the cartoonist who invented Dick Tracy should get all the royalties? :rolleyes:
 
8 pins seems a bit too little for me. 4 goes to USB and power, and 4 are left to do serial ports, video and audio. Impossible. I can't imagine that the accessories are all going to be communicating via USB.
 
I still think that the dock connector is going to lose its audio out capability and incorporate the headphone jack for sound, possibly optical audio.
 
basesloaded190 said:
You must have amazing eyes, because there is no way that by just looking at the picture you can tell that the rumored phones have 19 pin connectors or 18 pin connectors.
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Trust me, it's not my eyes. Although they are amazing! In the report, it specifically says that the dock connector there is 19 pins. Go back and look.
 
Elijahg said:
As discussed ad infinitum, USB 3 won't make a noticeable difference to the speed. The flash memory in the iPhone is the bottleneck.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6130/the-16gb-nexus-7-storage-performance

Assuming the iPhone is comparable to Android devices, it's true USB 3.0 wouldn't be helpful for writing to flash memory which is just breaking 10MB/s now for large scale sequential transfers. However, with reading from flash memory on devices now in the high 20s MB/s and real-world USB2.0 speeds in the low 30s MB/s, presumably next-generation flash memory will continue to get faster so USB 3.0 does look to be useful for transfers in a year or two so it makes sense to build-it into a revised dock connector spec now.
 
whooleytoo said:
I'd like to see a Magsafe-like power+data connector on the iPhone. Not for safety reasons - you'd have to make the magnet much weaker for a lightweight iPhone or it wouldn't disconnect in the event of the cable getting snagged on something.

But the socket at the bottom of the phone is a 'fluff magnet' and you can damage the pins when trying to get it out. A non-recessed socket which draws the pins out when attached would be much more pocket-friendly.
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Really interesting idea and it would make a lot of sense. The reason why so many folks (myself included) had issues with their home buttons on the current iPhones is because of debris getting into the bottom of the phone via the dock connector. The type of connector you described above would certainly help to alleviate that issue.
 
I'm welcoming it doesn't matter which way you put in the connector feature. Having it go in only one way is stupid.
 
bbeagle said:
This is not available yet.

There is no over-the-counter wristwatch that can pair with a phone available today.

Just because you can dream up something does not mean that you can make a working version. These are two different things.
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Come on man, do some research. I've been following both of these for over a year now: iWatch, Pebble, inPulse, etc...

These are shipping products.

That said, I cannot wait for Apple to finally push the industry into fully embracing bluetooth 4.0. REALLY exciting stuff down the road from combining a few interesting patents. Needless to say the next nano, or perhaps a separate device entirely, is going to become one of the most incredible workout/life companions you've ever seen. I'm talking workout tracking with pulse, blood pressure, etc all being bed into your phone via BT 4.0. Apple's got a very unique patent on earbuds that can detect your pulse from your ear, in combination with the acoustic overhaul the earbuds are getting.

Truly exciting times.
 
TimAlia said:
Yes. Maybe they'll invent something called iMessage and it will be on the next Mac OS.

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That's not the same. iMessage only works with iOS devices and Macs and they're technically not text messages, they're data just like an email.

What he's talking about is the phone still being the host and receiving texts/phone calls but redirecting them to your Mac via Bluetooth.

That would actually be awesome and much more useful than iMessage, as long as your phone is in range of your computer, which mine is not always when I'd want such a feature.
 
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