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#1. Apple's choice, It could easily have a removable battery, if there were a need for such a thing, but there isn't, If you really can't stop to charge your phone between days then there are plenty of external battery chargers and battery cases.

#2. has nothing to do with the case and everything to do with apple hiding the filesystem and tiering prices based on storage size.

#3. Has nothing to do with the case materials. I don't agree with apple's choice but it meant adding an extra IC, and Apple loves simplicity.

#4. Nobody uses it, and one side of the case is glass, not aluminum so it's not really an issue of the case blocking it. This is a phone, it's designed to send and receive radio signals.

#5. wireless charging would be awesome, if public places provided charging pads, like airports and coffee shops and hotels but I've yet to see that, so it's use is very limited.

Samsung is capable of making some very nice hardware. They lead in televisions, home appliances, and of coarse memory, I like Samsung, they compete viciously, and put out some very high quality products, but I don't like the S3, it just doesn't seam like a very good phone, I don't like it's size or it's OS.

Of course it hasa lot to do with aluminum. You just can't have a snappable aluminum door, you'd have to use screws which is not a good option for such small parts. Also, because of aluminum case, Apple had to put antennas outside and then use switching between the two of them to mitigate the problem of "shorting" of antennas by hand. That's why they can't have enough antennas for simultaneous voice and data.
 
Let's not forget....1GB of SAMSUNG RAM. Quick y'all, take your rams out of your 5s as soon as you get it!:cool:

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Using something and owning something are two TOTALLY different things. You need to fiddle for it for at least 30 days. But I have a feeling you didn't.

No, I didn't use it for 30 days. Honestly, don't need to. I don't like android, or the S3. Just don't like it.
 
iOS6 is the Android equivalent to Gingerbread 2.3 :p Other than siri. ( which sucks ). You guys still don't have widgets, multi tasking, or a back button :p

I seriously don't get why people who dislike Apple still want to come to an Apple blog and diss everything that Apple does?? I mean do you not have something better to do?? I love Apple products that's why I come here but that doesn't mean I'm gonna go to an android blog and diss them because its the "competition"!!
Maybe I don't go over there because it doesn't interest me at all....on the other hand most Apple haters seem to know more about Apple than I do lol sounds to me like you guys are secret Apple fanboys....it's time to come out the hater closet. Everybody loves the iPhone :)
 
Clap, Clap, Clap.

But of course no beer is stored in plastic cans;)

Well played, well played indeed.

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Guys, just admit it that aluminum is not a good material for cell phone cases. Consider how much you sucrifice in order to get this shiny skin:
* replaceable battery
* memory card (unibody is not the only reason for that but still)
* simultaneous data and voice on CDMA/LTE networks (not enough antennas)
* NFC (aluminum blocks it)
* wireless charging

My understanding was that the simultaneous data and voice situation was because of the CDMA network limitations, not the phone.

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Samsung is capable of making some very nice hardware. They lead in televisions, home appliances, and of coarse memory, I like Samsung, they compete viciously, and put out some very high quality products, but I don't like the S3, it just doesn't seam like a very good phone, I don't like it's size or it's OS.

I don't like the ice-maker in the fridge. It is prone to breaking. :D
 
I seriously don't get why people who dislike Apple still want to come to an Apple blog and diss everything that Apple does?? I mean do you not have something better to do?? I love Apple products that's why I come here but that doesn't mean I'm gonna go to an android blog and diss them because its the "competition"!!
Maybe I don't go over there because it doesn't interest me at all....on the other hand most Apple haters seem to know more about Apple than I do lol sounds to me like you guys are secret Apple fanboys....it's time to come out the hater closet. Everybody loves the iPhone :)

Because some of the people on this board, buy and like Macs, like myself. I love my Macs, I just dislike the toys :p
 
My understanding was that the simultaneous data and voice situation was because of the CDMA network limitations, not the phone.

It all depends on the context. Note, btw, that using a VoIP app like Skype allows voice+data on any system.

2G = No 2G protocol (GSM/GPRS or CDMA/1x) allows simultaneous voice+data.

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3G (UMTS) = UMTS-3G allows voice+data over a single radio. (Note that while a lot of people lump it under GSM, UMTS doesn't require a GSM network. For example, Korea had CDMA networks that supported both EVDO and UMTS-3G.)

3G (EVDO) = Voice+Data is not normally supported because Verizon and Sprint prefer to keep those usages separate.

3G (SVDO) = If a CDMA phone has two radios, it can use one for 1x voice and one for EVDO 3G data at the same time. Several Verizon phones can do this because they have separate CDMA and LTE radios. If LTE isn't available on the second radio, it can switch to EVDO mode. Separation is still maintained.

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LTE (all) = Will eventually support voice, but that's a year or two away.

LTE (AT&T LTE) = Currently an attempt to use voice+data over LTE causes the phone to drop back to UMTS-3G where voice+data still works. Or if 3G isn't available, it drops back to 2G, of course, with either voice or data.

LTE (Verizon LTE) = Likewise, any attempt to add a voice call while using LTE on Verizon or Sprint drops the user out of LTE. However, it also pauses data, and uses just 1x voice during the call. This is the case for the iPhone 5, which is what the hullabaloo is all about.

LTE (SVLTE) = Similar to SVDO with 3G, by using two radios (CDMA 1x and LTE) at the same time, Verizon allows simultaneous 1x voice + 4G data. Several Verizon LTE phones support this.

I'm tired today, but I think I got it all. Clear as mud? :)
 
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Holly molly !! :eek: 1Gig


I seriously don't get why people who dislike Apple still want to come to an Apple blog and diss everything that Apple does?? I mean do you not have something better to do?? I love Apple products that's why I come here but that doesn't mean I'm gonna go to an android blog and diss them because its the "competition"!!
Maybe I don't go over there because it doesn't interest me at all....on the other hand most Apple haters seem to know more about Apple than I do lol sounds to me like you guys are secret Apple fanboys....it's time to come out the hater closet. Everybody loves the iPhone :)

In much the same way Windows people do ... We all like step on each others feet..(including us Apple foak)
...and it works.... Sometimes too good.


You clumsy .
 
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Because some of the people on this board, buy and like Macs, like myself. I love my Macs, I just dislike the toys :p

Well when you said "you guys still dont have etc...." it sounds like your a fandroid, with a genuine hate for Apple.
 
Well when you said "you guys still dont have etc...." it sounds like your a fandroid, with a genuine hate for Apple.

Do I hate the iPhone? No. I just dislike it, I loved my 3GS, but then the iPhone fell behind android, big time imo. So I went android.

Still have my Macs.

If Apple can wow me with the next iPhone, Ill be back.
 
You guys need to wake up to life, the iPhone was good when i came out was indeed innovating but these days is just a standard smartphone, no better than a HTC or a Nokia. The Galaxy phones have been in supremacy for a few years now and rightly so, Android OS taken over the market and is here to stay. Apple as not presented anything new to the table in years now, and in desperation they now making money out of court suites instead of by selling innovating and quality product. Suing online grocery companies, pathetic! Steve is probably turning himself on his grave due to what this company as become!
 
Funny, people complain tooth and nail that big ol' "evil" Apple intentionally drops features from older devices to "force" an upgrade, armageddon sky is falling lawsuit mass destruction. And then people complain that Apple has supported a device for too long :)

Yep. I only complain about the latter. I buy a phone. I don't expect it to be supported for half a decade. That's an unreasonable and stupid expectation.
 
It all depends on the context. Note, btw, that using a VoIP app like Skype allows voice+data on any system.

2G = No 2G protocol (GSM/GPRS or CDMA/1x) allows simultaneous voice+data.

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3G (UMTS) = UMTS-3G allows voice+data over a single radio. (Note that while a lot of people lump it under GSM, UMTS doesn't require a GSM network. For example, Korea had CDMA networks that supported both EVDO and UMTS-3G.)

3G (EVDO) = Voice+Data is not normally supported because Verizon and Sprint prefer to keep those usages separate.

3G (SVDO) = If a CDMA phone has two radios, it can use one for 1x voice and one for EVDO 3G data at the same time. Several Verizon phones can do this because they have separate CDMA and LTE radios. If LTE isn't available on the second radio, it can switch to EVDO mode. Separation is still maintained.

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LTE (all) = Will eventually support voice, but that's a year or two away.

LTE (AT&T LTE) = Currently an attempt to use voice+data over LTE causes the phone to drop back to UMTS-3G where voice+data still works. Or if 3G isn't available, it drops back to 2G, of course, with either voice or data.

LTE (Verizon LTE) = Likewise, any attempt to add a voice call while using LTE on Verizon or Sprint drops the user out of LTE. However, it also pauses data, and uses just 1x voice during the call. This is the case for the iPhone 5, which is what the hullabaloo is all about.

LTE (SVLTE) = Similar to SVDO with 3G, by using two radios (CDMA 1x and LTE) at the same time, Verizon allows simultaneous 1x voice + 4G data. Several Verizon LTE phones support this.

I'm tired today, but I think I got it all. Clear as mud? :)

Thanks for the clarification.
 
I don't that is an effective revenue stream.

Apple as not presented anything new to the table in years now, and in desperation they now making money out of court suites instead of by selling innovating and quality product. Suing online grocery companies, pathetic! Steve is probably turning himself on his grave due to what this company as become!

I'm going to venture out on a limb here and say that Apple doesn't count on their litigation to make ends meet. I'm sure much of their revenue comes from hardware sales, iTunes store and App stores. :D
 
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The S3 just feels cheap to me. Its made like junk. Some people love it, I personally don't like it even a little. I prefer something that feels a bit more "high end" and well built. Sorta like high end surgical instruments made from stainless or titanium. Usually, plastic medical instruments are disposable.

The problem is with Apple fanboys on here, there is no thought process at all.

Plastic = Cheap Junk and that is as far as their mind can go.

They cannot see past this.
 
The problem is with Apple fanboys on here, there is no thought process at all.

Plastic = Cheap Junk and that is as far as their mind can go.

They cannot see past this.

Not true. I have some very well made plastic items.

C'mon now. When u pick up a sg3 it doesn't feel well built at all. It feels cheap. Just being honest. Give 1000 people an iPhone and a s3 and ask them which one feels cheap and what one feels sturdy and well constructed. iPhone would win hands down.
 
Not true. I have some very well made plastic items.

C'mon now. When u pick up a sg3 it doesn't feel well built at all. It feels cheap. Just being honest. Give 1000 people an iPhone and a s3 and ask them which one feels cheap and what one feels sturdy and well constructed. iPhone would win hands down.

Just to clarify, I'm in no was disputing this point.

I will take each product on it's own individual merits.
What I don't do however (and it the thing I notice here and other places) is that according to many (it seems) Apple fans, Plastic "IS" rubbish and that's it.

Irrespective of any facts, practicalities, strength/durability etc issues. It's plastic (and there are probably many thousands of types of plastic each with it's own characteristics) so it's junk.

I would argue that if it time you make a plastic phone, plastic case, plastic screen that you could drop on the ground/mishandle and it survived, and did not dent/shatter that, for the purpose of a phone (something you use on the go/out and about) it would be a better material.
 
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