Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Funny, people complain tooth and nail that big ol' "evil" Apple intentionally drops features from older devices to "force" an upgrade, armageddon sky is falling lawsuit mass destruction. And then people complain that Apple has supported a device for too long :)
.

Nevermind that Samsung dumps support for their phones after a couple of months, and never grace previous iterations with any of the newer Touchwiz features. It's the worst of both worlds.
 
Well, I do have iDOS installed on my iPhone 4 that was in the app store for a day or so before Apple pulled it. I have Windows 3.1 and Windows 95 there. Windows 3.1 works great, but 95 is pretty slow. Also, there is no network support, or sound support, or pretty much any support for anything. It boots and you can play solitaire or minesweeper or edit txt files in notepad and that's pretty much it. I'm sure iPhone 5 will run it much better.

Why would you want to run windows(3/1/95/etc) on your iPhone or any phone?
 
If you go into a hospital and you see some medical instruments or equipment made from various plastics, or see a luxury yacht or sports car, or any other device using plastic you you say yuk cheap plastic?

Or might you consider that Plastics, and that term covers a vast array of materials each with their own properties, for flexibility, strength, impact resistance, weight etc etc.

May actually be the best and ideal material for the job?

The S3 just feels cheap to me. Its made like junk. Some people love it, I personally don't like it even a little. I prefer something that feels a bit more "high end" and well built. Sorta like high end surgical instruments made from stainless or titanium. Usually, plastic medical instruments are disposable.
 
It's so funny... I remember when my computer maxed out at 32MB of ram* (1995) and we used to joke about computers have "a GIG of Ram" one of these days. Now, we've got that in phones. Amazing.


*going from 8MB of ram to 32MB cost me $1500! (am I remembering that right? Sounds insane!)

Wow...can't wait until we are laughing at 1GB ram in our phones or whatever is next big thing is.
 
Ahhh yes the same amount as the HTC one X. Another top-tier android phone :rolls eyes:

But really it should've been in there with the last upgrade. The 4S
 
My thoughts

Why would you want to run windows(3/1/95/etc) on your iPhone or any phone?

I can't speak for vbtwo31984, but sometimes it's just cool to be able to run it, even if it doesn't have any practical use. Kind of like the first time I used Bootcamp. I didn't have compatible software at the time, but it was still cool to boot windows on a mac.
 
Thats really great and all but I don't see any of the features Samsung listed as "useful". Like the share shot who exactly am i gonna share every picture I take with? Its a great idea but I don't really see the use for it. I'm not 14. I mean all that stuff they list I would never use. BTW android OS is just ugly to look at.

BTW I also noticed they didn't list all the stuff the iPhone does only the specs. Nice job Samsung.. all that stuff Samsung list are "features". I mean turn over to mute? Thats on the list? My Rezound does that and I don't see it on HTC Spec list..

Really? I think Android OS looks quite nice. I have the SII and the iPad, and to be honest iOS does get boring pretty quickly (though iOS is obviously more "quicker" in terms of getting to your applications)... now are you talking about the stock OS that google releases or the ones tweaked and changed by the phone manufacturers.? but either way ... i guess it just depends on your time and use.
 
The S3 just feels cheap to me. Its made like junk. Some people love it, I personally don't like it even a little. I prefer something that feels a bit more "high end" and well built. Sorta like high end surgical instruments made from stainless or titanium. Usually, plastic medical instruments are disposable.

Speaking about analogies... How about this car analogy. All cheap cars are made of metal. The most expensive cars (like Lamborghini) have metal frame but use fiberglass for exterior panels. This is how SGSIII is made too. It has metal inside and plastic cover. This is also not dissimilar to real trucks/SUVs (frame construction) vs crossovers (unibody). Although to say that iPhone 5 has unibody is a real stretch since all of its sides are made of distinctly different materials.

Anyhow, your statements about "cheap" Samsung design would have some validity if you could find a single SGSIII owner who experienced problems due to plastic case. Ironically, the phone that cause most problems to its owners because of the case construction is iPhone 4S. Using glass body was a really stupid idea.
 
Just the other day we had a thread here griping about how Macrumors has become one giant Android fanboy Apple hate bash fest. I guess things have changed since then.

Look at the top comments of any MacRumors front page article...it's quite the blind Apple fanboy makeout session.
 
So when do we get news of the iPhone 5S ? NFC enabled?.. fingerprint sensing?.. what?

As usual, to learn what new features the next iPhone model will get just look at Android phones. The next iPhone will get: 2GB RAM, NFC, wider screen (additional vertical row of icons) and maybe OLED display (but that's a stretch).
 
Speaking about analogies... How about this car analogy. All cheap cars are made of metal. The most expensive cars (like Lamborghini) have metal frame but use fiberglass for exterior panels. This is how SGSIII is made too. It has metal inside and plastic cover. This is also not dissimilar to real trucks/SUVs (frame construction) vs crossovers (unibody). Although to say that iPhone 5 has unibody is a real stretch since all of its sides are made of distinctly different materials.

Anyhow, your statements about "cheap" Samsung design would have some validity if you could find a single SGSIII owner who experienced problems due to plastic case. Ironically, the phone that cause most problems to its owners because of the case construction is iPhone 4S. Using glass body was a really stupid idea.

Here!
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/15698841/
 
As usual, to learn what new features the next iPhone model will get just look at Android phones. The next iPhone will get: 2GB RAM, NFC, wider screen (additional vertical row of icons) and maybe OLED display (but that's a stretch).

There will NOT be a wider screen.. current dimensions will remain for the foreseeable future, unless it's thinner.
 
What about it? The guy once again complains about the "feel" without having experienced any issues. People simply do not understand what modern plastics are capable of.

That guy was me! I do know what modern plastics are capable of. That fact is whether you like or not Samsung chose to make the handset with poor plastic colourings and moulding processes. Now for most that would be fine but for ME its not, seriously you only have to hold S3 for a minute to realise that the iPhone is made to a much better standard.
 
Really? I think Android OS looks quite nice. I have the SII and the iPad, and to be honest iOS does get boring pretty quickly (though iOS is obviously more "quicker" in terms of getting to your applications)... now are you talking about the stock OS that google releases or the ones tweaked and changed by the phone manufacturers.? but either way ... i guess it just depends on your time and use.

Yes Really..

I'm referring to the stock Google OS. If it looks nice then what your saying is the icons look nice because stock is just like iOS. I've been using android for about 4 years and its just gotten old. I like Sense a lot but unfortunately HTC expects you to buy a new phone in order to get an updated version. Hay I was the biggest fanboy of Android ever head over to XDA and search for zone23 you will find me. Hopefully in a year android will get the things I don't like sorted that or Windows phone will rule the air waves. Things change.
 
That guy was me! I do know what modern plastics are capable of. That fact is whether you like or not Samsung chose to make the handset with poor plastic colourings and moulding processes. Now for most that would be fine but for ME its not, seriously you only have to hold S3 for a minute to realise that the iPhone is made to a much better standard.

Once again, these are just the feelings. There is absolutely no facts to show any advantages of aluminum body. Well, there one fact. iPhone design is the opposite of being ergonomic. Its hard to come up with less ergonomic shape than that (perhaps knife blade?). Which makes people to buy the cases which are made of much cheaper plastic than SGSIII body.
 
Once again, these are just the feelings. There is absolutely no facts to show any advantages of aluminum body. Well, there one fact. iPhone design is the opposite of being ergonomic. Its hard to come up with less ergonomic shape than that (perhaps knife blade?). Which makes people to buy the cases which are made of much cheaper plastic than SGSIII body.

Aluminium will dissipate heat more efficiently then plastic. Also powder coating aluminium will not wear the color off nearly as fast look at any retail stores storefront (windows and doors). ALSO the HTC One much nicer construction and more durable.
 
Last edited:
Once again, these are just the feelings. There is absolutely no facts to show any advantages of aluminum body. Well, there one fact. iPhone design is the opposite of being ergonomic. Its hard to come up with less ergonomic shape than that (perhaps knife blade?). Which makes people to buy the cases which are made of much cheaper plastic than SGSIII body.

Im talking quality which for me encompasses 3 vital ingredients, feel, look, build. MY sgs3 does not possess all three, like i've said mould joins showing on the bezel, plastics with swirly rainbows, and a size which is not overly comfortable in your hand. I cant speak for the iPhone 5 as i dont own one!
 
1GB will be more than enough for iOS to run smoothly on the 5. But 2GB would have been really nice for future updates. My phone has 2 and that seems to help a lot with running large apps in the background.
 
It's so funny... I remember when my computer maxed out at 32MB of ram* (1995) and we used to joke about computers have "a GIG of Ram" one of these days. Now, we've got that in phones. Amazing.


*going from 8MB of ram to 32MB cost me $1500! (am I remembering that right? Sounds insane!)

I remember being in a store around that time when the sales person got a phone call. Apparently someone asked how much memory you could add to a Mac Pro (it was called something different back then) and how much it cost. The RAM was 1.5 GB and it cost actually about 3 times as much as the Mac. I worked in a place where thieves broke in, went into the server room, stole the RAM out of the machines and left the servers!
 
I love the silliness of some posters:

The iPhone 5 is only the iPhone 4S with a bigger screen and better specs...

You could essentially say the exact same thing about any two generations of any smartphone on Earth! The Samsung GS3 is only the Samsung GS2 with a bigger screen and better specs! The Nokia Lumia 920 is only the Nokia Lumia 800 with a bigger screen and better specs.

In fact, you can make essentially the same statement about any two generations of any product at all! The new Macbook Air is only the old Macbook air with better tech specs. The new Aston Martin is only the old Aston Martin with a slightly new design and better engine. The new Moleskin Notebook is only the old Moleskin Notebook with a new cover design and nicer paper!

What did people expect?! What did they want?! I mean, for all the griping didn't Apple just launch an absolutely state of the art smartphone? Doesn't it carry the very latest tech in LTE chips, ARM processors, manufacturing techniques, touch screen technology, image processing? Isn't likely the fastest smartphones going while still being among the thinnest and lightest handsets on the market?

There are, as far as I can see, only two things NOT included in this new iPhone which anyone could reasonably complain about: wireless charging and NFC. The first is a gimmick - it's slow, inconvenient, expensive and adds little to no value over and above standard charging methods. NFC is a more complex question - there are clearly potential uses for NFC but none are yet compelling to me and Apple made a judgement call about the design compromises they would have to make in order to incorporate NFC and decided it wasn't worth it. That's a legitimate decision although clearly others think differently. Of course, both NFC and wireless charging can easily be added through the use of a third party case - so those options remain for people who really desire that functionality.

I see the new iPhone is a fantastic achievement. The 4S remains one of the best phones on the market in terms of technical specifications and, for me, the best phone going for overall design, ease of use, ecosystem etc. I still look at my 4S, which has a design that's over two years old, and find it to be a thing of beauty - classically stylish and made of exceptionally high quality materials. Obviously this is a matter of taste but I'd wager good money that, in a few decades' time, the 4/4S will be the subject of study for industrial design students all over the world while few other smartphones will warrant any consideration. Nokia's Lumia range is lovely in many ways but it might date more quickly because of its more pop-like sensibilities. The Galaxy range from Samsung won't last the test of time - they're nice to look at but lack substance visually. I picked up a Sony Experia handset yesterday and was surprised by how cheap and tacky it felt. I know there are some nicely built handsets out there, don't get me wrong, but I genuinely haven't seen one that comes close to the 4/4S, and that's after more than two years!

The iPhone 5 is, by all accounts, a very nice feeling handset - I can't comment directly until I've held one in my hand. Only time will tell if it becomes a design classic like the 4/4S but all the signs are good so far.

They've stuck closely to the design philosophy of the prior generation and created a handset which goes even further in terms of minimalism - peeling away the facade to reveal the industrial design, the function of the device. The unibody case is simpler than the glass and stainless steel of the prior generation. The slate/black and silver/white combinations are even more stylistically pure as the metal and the glass are matched more closely for the cleanest fit (the white one looks stunning but I intend to stick with black as it's less showy). The brushed, matt finish of the flat faces compared to the high shine of the chamfers creates a striking but subtle impact - a tiny detail that turns a potentially homogenous, even boring shape into something really eye catching (as always, it's the little things that count). All the busyness is now concentrated on the bottom edge of the handset leaving an even cleaner finish around the other three edges but the tidy design of the smaller port and bold, circular speaker holes stop things feeling cluttered.

The iPhone 5 is a phone built for people who love great design. Sure, I like a phone that goes like stink! I love high end technology as much as the next geek, but I also love great design. In fact, I love great design more. That's why I wouldn't buy a Samsung - they're nice but the niceness is immediate and fleeting - lemonade vs the aged single malt of truly great design. Instantly pleasing but just as instantly forgettable, pop vs classic rock. There's nothing wrong with that, of course, but it isn't appealing to me. If you want something like an iPhone you really only have one option: an iPhone.

makes sense. but lets call the last 2-3 updates for what it is. A spec bump. Maybe that's all thats left to innovate on. That's ok too. But let's not call each new iPhone as comparable to the next coming of jesus, because if the fanboys remove their blinders just for a second, they'd realize all it is is a spec jump, just like every other phone maker. Like I said earlier, it's like having a parade everytime you add 250GB of hard drive space to your iMac.

But a spec jump on a great phone is just that...an incrementally better great phone. Apple has been concentrating more on software design for the iPhone and that's probably the better thing to do. But what they've done is linked software to hardware version, which is a bit unlike them. (e.g., Siri only on 4S and above when jailbreakers have proven it works just fine on a 4, even a 3GS). To me, that points to a lack of new innovation on the hardware side.
 
Speaking about analogies... How about this car analogy. All cheap cars are made of metal. The most expensive cars (like Lamborghini) have metal frame but use fiberglass for exterior panels. This is how SGSIII is made too. It has metal inside and plastic cover. This is also not dissimilar to real trucks/SUVs (frame construction) vs crossovers (unibody). Although to say that iPhone 5 has unibody is a real stretch since all of its sides are made of distinctly different materials.

Anyhow, your statements about "cheap" Samsung design would have some validity if you could find a single SGSIII owner who experienced problems due to plastic case. Ironically, the phone that cause most problems to its owners because of the case construction is iPhone 4S. Using glass body was a really stupid idea.

There are a million analogies one can use. All I said was that I think the SG3 feels cheap to ME. I don't like it at all. I like the feel of the iPhone construction. And yes, the iPhone, at least the 4 & 4S are more prone to damage because of the way they are made. But I'll take that. There is a difference between "cheap" and fragile. iPhone is/was fragile. S3 is cheap. There is a difference.

But hey, nothing against s3 fans. Just not for me.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.