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With a price tag of $5999, you'd think that there would be enough "overhead" to pay an American worker a living wage to, at the very least, assemble these. The iMac we just bought for a client was assembled in Pennsylvania.

Big words, but the last time Apple did that, they almost ended up bankrupt because consumers DID NOT CARE.
 
Damn theyre so low. 8 core for $5000. Heard of the 9700k? Lmao. $500. Not xeon but pretty damn comparable in performance.

2080ti = $1500. Rips anything in Apples line up, even if you underclock it lol.

They could make a system far superior for lower. Who has ever needed 1.5tb of ram haha

Don't forget the likely 50% performance hit you will get with the base model RAM configuration.
 
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Damn theyre so low. 8 core for $5000. Heard of the 9700k? Lmao. $500. Not xeon but pretty damn comparable in performance.

2080ti = $1500. Rips anything in Apples line up, even if you underclock it lol.

They could make a system far superior for lower. Who has ever needed 1.5tb of ram haha


Obviously, you are not the target audience for this machine. Comparing a Xeon to a Core i7 is ignorant, Xeon's are not for playing video games. Review the video skipped the part comparing the processors for gaming
 
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Hard to blame them.

Believe it or not there are countries other than the USA that buy Macs.

Trump's Tax will be lifted in January 2021 anyway.
 
The screw think was odd. But Apple insists on creating its own custom screw that no one else can use, restrict all parts for those screws and then complain they can’t get screws. Had they gone with industry standard that bottle neck would not have happened.



If you read the links, the salaries of American workers were, at most, the third most significant issue in Apple's decision. #1 was the lack of support manufacturers for items Apple would not make themselves. For example, screws. On the previous MacPro, Apple was unable to find contract manufacturers able to make more than quantity 1000 custom-designed screws per day. They ended up having to order most of their screws from China, elongating the supply chain. Now, as anyone who thinks about it for 10 seconds would realize it, you want to plan your supply chain around high-value components, not screws. Imagine having thousands of high-end microprocessors and partially built subassemblies sitting around in inventory, waiting for some screws.

#2 was the fact that it is really tough to get Americans to work second (and THIRD) shift. That means that your facilities are going to be sitting around idle a good percentage of the time, even when there is unfulfilled demand.

I suspect most people here don't realize that unused inventory and idle facilities can be a bigger extra expense than high salaries, and has no ancillary benefit of what some might think of as "good citizenship."
 
I thought the materials were the issue as well. If the cost of materials & labor are cheaper in China, Apple is obligated to their stock holders to produce the product as cheaply as possible for a profit.

It's this kind of corporate competitive for-profit mentality that has eroded North America's middle class. Developing countries continue to develop, and when they are in a position where they can stand on their own, rely less and less on exports is when they will one day surpass the USA as an economic powerhouse.
 
It's this kind of corporate competitive for-profit mentality that has eroded North America's middle class. Developing countries continue to develop, and when they are in a position where they can stand on their own, rely less and less on exports is when they will one day surpass the USA as an economic powerhouse.
It isn't just a mentality, it's actually a legal obligation.

One this country created, enforces, and very heavily endorses.
 
It’s not about charity but social responsibility of the big players. Especially if Billions of overseas cash are not touched for the sake of avoiding taxes and though in comparison smaller companies paying larger amounts of taxes than Apple - just because they cannot afford tax avoidance Modells throughout the world. Is it illegal? No. Are this dollars missing for social welfare or new kindergartens? Yes.
Apple employs 47000 people in the US. 47000. More than most other companies. These people pay income taxes which are used for social welfare and kindergartens. Not to mention, Apple does donate a lot of money when any natural disaster occurs. Like the post you were replying to said, its not a charity but a for profit company.
 
America can't compete in manufacturing. That's just reality.
It's also a 'truth' to capitalism as it's now practiced. Manufacturing will always flee to where the cost of labor is cheapest. That's why the southern states have grabbed up most of what's left in this country and the rest goes to places with even cheaper labor. Those who defend capitalism - this is how it works. Things that take a higher degree of education and cutting edge tech will expand in advanced economies and 'labor' will go to where it's cheapest. I'm not a fan of this economic model but I find it surprising that so many people who take their bibles out and pray on behalf of capitalism then find it shocking that ultimately huge amounts of the lowest skill jobs are reduced to sub-survival wages and the rest flee the country. What did they think capitalism meant?
 
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I'm currious about the top end configuration price on this puppy? They keep advertising $5999 as the base price but the config with the 28 core xeon and 1.5Tb of ram is likely to cost way way way more.
The 28 core from Intel costs $15k. That’s the single largest cost in the system
 
With a price tag of $5999, you'd think that there would be enough "overhead" to pay an American worker a living wage to, at the very least, assemble these. The iMac we just bought for a client was assembled in Pennsylvania.

Then why isn’t a comparable one from HP cheaper? Or same price but built in America?
Oh, because you like making ridiculous “demands” on Apple that you don’t on anyone else? Gotcha.
 
This is very good news! Apple's new $999.00 monitor stand will now sell for $998.99 due to low cost Chinese labor. (Probably costs Apple $3.00 to manufacture)
 
I have an Ergotron MX arm which can hold the same weight as Apples arm and is also finger movable, it supports tilt, swivel and can even bring the display down completely flat to the table to draw on. Supports screens upto 32" in size too.

Price tag? $125. Made from steel, looks incredible etc - VESA standard connection.

OK. That sounds like a great deal. But do you know the makeup of Apple's arm? I'm not defending them, I think the price is a bit crazy, but we don't know enough about the materials and quality of tech in there yet.
 
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