Source? What is the number of hours of labor in each machine? What is the hourly rate. I assume you’ve done a full analysis before your typical pro-Apple PR spin.
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Apple's New Mac Pro Won't Be 'Made in USA' as Production Reportedly Moving to China
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The intel Xeon W's being used are essentially identical to the consumer i series with the only difference being ECC RAM support, which intel purposely with-holds from consumer versions of their chips as an upsell.
There is very little else different at all between the CPU's. It's all Intel being sneaky and "upselling" feature sets. ECC and unlocked cores are their "free margins"
Meanwhile. AMD includes ECC support and unlocked multipliers in every single Ryzen based CPU for no additional upsell.
if you REQUIRE ECC support in your workstations, than it makes sense to require the Xeon series being used here, since there aren't other options.
The simple fact of the matter is, if you do not require ECC support for what you are doing, the inclusion of Xeon's is complete overkill for a desktop computer. I"m not saying ECC isn't sometimes required (I'd never build a server for example using standard RAM when I need 24/7 uptime with 24/7 accurate calculations on the one in a billionth chance for a single incorrect bit), but for most home, even workstation users, ECC is just overkill.
It’s time that we boycott all Apple products, Trump should add high tariffs on anything assembled in China so hurt Apple in their pockets as hard as possible just like they do to their customers, even when a defect in an Apple product is found its the customers responsibility to pay for its correction according to Apple they have become a fat cow needs to be killed off, $pple is going to far skimping on every penny and raising cost to customers and getting slave labour to build for them for food
Does this the Mac Pro will be cheaper? No Probably not. I miss the original aluminum Mac Pro that was in the realm of affordability for smaller business or aspiring professionals.
Making a super fast computer carte blanche is no feat. Making a great computer while adhering with a reasonable budget is truly innovative.
Making a super fast computer carte blanche is no feat. Making a great computer while adhering with a reasonable budget is truly innovative.
People who aren’t poor but aren’t rich. The ones in the middle
It is supported by the statistics, it’s just that nobody wants to see it. They’re focusing on units sold or stock market price, both meaningless metrics on a human social scale and their inevitable decline by corroding customer loyalty and brand image. You will all see, *shrug*
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No and that’s irrelevant. They were given a huge tax cut by current POTUS and committed to bringing billions back from overseas. There’s no reason manufacturing needs to be in China for this. It’s gross & shameful and is a horrible look for brand image, which is what Apple survives on but Tim Cook appears hell bent on erasing.
Why so much hate for the free market?
Apple is doing exactly what the free market is about. Producing a product that the public wants and maximizing profit for their shareholders. That means producing where the supply chains and workforce are most efficient.
Anyone who expected them to bring production back to the US is living in an orange kool-aid induced dream land.
Apple is doing exactly what the free market is about. Producing a product that the public wants and maximizing profit for their shareholders. That means producing where the supply chains and workforce are most efficient.
Anyone who expected them to bring production back to the US is living in an orange kool-aid induced dream land.
You need to readjust your humor settings - - beaker7 was not asking a serious question, but making a small joke based on plucky duck's statement regarding the erosion of the middle class.
Maybe Apple should just ship the Mac Pro as knock-down kit (or CKD) from China to the U.S. and just have the finally assembly done in the U.S.. Might shut up some critics.
The point in not that they build it in China, it’s that the high cost isn’t justified because it’s built in China. Tim Crook is pulling a fast one on us.
How many top people has Tesla lost just this year?
It is not unusual for 1-2 senior VP's to leave major companies each and every year. The number you quoted is not that high IMHO.
Maybe, but moving production out of the U.S. happened all under Steve Jobs' watch.
No one except major Hollywood studios or maybe the military is going to buy this Mac Pro anyway. Apple has priced themselves out of the prosumer market. Anyone looking for a Mac workstation will either get the iMac Pro, or switch to a PC.
SVPs of hardware, software, finance, legal, operations all changed under Steve's stewardship as well.
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Or get a Mac Mini or an 8-core 'standard' iMac.
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Well, 2013 Mac Pro might still be considered to adhere to a reasonable budget.
Yet one of the most successful and admired companies in the world, with 130,000+ employees, and many millions of repeat customers opening their wallets to buy Apple products. Year after year after year.
Yeah, your “mediocre” assessment above seems legit. /s
Things might have changed since iPhone 6s, but https://www.businessinsider.com/where-iphone-parts-come-from-2016-4
Also China is the #1 Rare Earth producer/exporter. And it produces 6 times of rare earth than the 2nd place producer (not USA)
https://investingnews.com/daily/res...rth-investing/rare-earth-producing-countries/
In an ideal world, yea, US companies should be responsible for US jobs - however not in this one. Apple is still registered in Ireland to avoid paying US taxes. Millions of companies are shipping jobs overseas. Low skill manufacturing jobs are not coming back - automation is replacing outsourcing.
All hail our robotic overlords.
I understood. Forgot the /s is all. Thanks for taking the time to clear that one up though..
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Sounds like the perfect time to welcome hundreds of thousands of low skilled immigrant laborers into this robotic economy... what could possibly go wrong...?
Sounds like the perfect time to welcome hundreds of thousands of low skilled immigrant laborers into this robotic economy... what could possibly go wrong...?
Driving cost down while keeping margins consistent drives prices down. Sorry, but a blanket “nope” isn’t really an argument. @dumastudetto supported their argument. Why do you think Apple is keeping costs low, and support it with more than “greedy Tim Crook hates me” nonsense.
The Xeon W used in the Mac Pro isn't even the same socket design as the consumer parts.
But hey, don't let facts get in the way of a good rant.
$6k AND made in china? wow greed and hypocrisy. not sure how much sense that makes with this tariff situation. not a good move apple