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Apple's New Mac Pro Won't Be 'Made in USA' as Production Reportedly Moving to China
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Yes, but it is really about sending a message to Trump. Tim Cook has played his hand very well with Trump, and Trump understood that Apple is a special USA company.
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Except that's not true. The high cost is justified because it is a high end machine with expensive components. Manufacturing is only one part of the cost.
You can read a full breakdown comparing it to a PC here: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/how-much-mac-pro-cost-as-pc/
The Mac Pro is actually a bargain for what you get
When will people get it that USA can't compete anymore with China. Is it really that hard to get it?
Average hourly rate in US vs China - case closed.
Apparently not, delusional patriotism at work
Anyway, this was to be expected. The only option is another country in Asia. USA is no longer an option and hasn't been for a while.
Except you forget to mention GATT (General Agreement on Tariffs & Trade) which shipped most of the USA’s manufacturing infrastructure overseas in the first place— which A) no one in the USA was allowed to vote on, and B) had the costs covered by USA tax payers.
The MacPro is a bargain today for what you will get at the end of the year....
But who cares, for 40000€ you can by an MeganeRS Throphy the fastest car of it's class on the Nürburgring (unless it's Honda's week at the top)or a slightly upspecced A250.
Still Mercedes will sell more of those......
Is that important now? Its not, is it? Asia managed to become a manufacturing king (especially China). The ship has sailed and right now that cannot be fixed. China holds everyone hostage when it comes to this.
A food for thought - Imagine if one day China says - we are stopping all the production for export. The whole world collapses :-D
Seriously? Its well known that for many years Apple has held the number one spot for the highest profit margin per square foot of retail space. And to be fair their stores are hardly cramped. Consider this is up against some of the worlds finest jewellery brands, and Apple still won out. So yea, Apple makes a fortune for every square foot of space in its stores. I personally don't know of many big companies who pay their staff as a percentage of profit - there are some companies that share 'some' of the profits by paying a bonus, but that bonus is absolutely minimal compared to how much they are making as a brand.
I'm constantly amazed that people are surprised by this - did you all expect to find a MacBook Pro in your locker as a Christmas bonus? Apple is a company owned by shareholders and the company has a duty to their shareholders to make them as much profit as possible while ensuring the company continues to grow. They are doing well there. They have a duty to their staff to pay what they advertise and meet your legal rights, and then they will obviously have laid out how you would be looked after in your contract of employment. Do people REALLY think that Apple will share the profits with the staff who are being paid to do their jobs and just ignore the shareholders who own the company?
Also - 'basically' Apple is not running a sweatshop. Just Google 'sweatshop' to see the difference...
Yep, nothing to say against that, besides that the company should contribute in the same way to the social system as its employees do. Avoiding tax is not a crime, but should fave stronger limitations. Btw, Apple donations rose dramatically after the media made the tax avoidance more public.
Do people realize that Apple, as an American company, benefits from the strength and stability of the U.S.? Do people think that just maybe it would have some loyalty to the country that allows it to prosper? Apparently some do not.
China es not cheap anymore. Labor es cheaper in Brazil for example and in some south east Asia countries. In China you have infrastructure, logistics and incredibly efficient manufacturing anywhere you look. You can order any part and in a matter of days you have 1 milion units at your door steps. If you want something fast, China is the place to look.
Not sure why you attributed "greedy Tim Cook hates me" to any comment I've made since it's pretty clear I haven't come close to saying anything like that. My criticism of an idiotic comment can't be construed as a criticism of Apple. Duma supported his argument with more nonsense. Nothing in his reply to me explains why customer price would go down due to Apple's lower cost. It just tries to obfuscate by talking about Apple wanting to meet their margin objectives. Maybe read better next time.
As to why Apple is keeping cost low, that's simple. They want, like any business, to keep their cost low because it helps to improve their margins and profit. A larger margin on say, for example, Macs helps keep the overall margin in their preferred zone when they may take a little hit in margin on phones for example because they had to pay more to Samsung for the more expensive OLED. (please don't get caught up in my example... it's just an example of margin management)
Apple gets their cost lower so they in turn lower the cost of their items to the customer... ←yeah bud, that has never been a thing.
Yep, it has been like that for many years. Red tape, insurance, labor laws, unions, cost of living, etc. All these adds costs and increase prices of products manufactured in the USA. Third world countries have much less or none of the above.
Selling this dream of bringing manufacturing jobs back is a fallacy. USA has to compete with innovation, technology, creativity, etc. That's the only path forward.
Make CNC machines dirt cheap and don't allow American companies to charge a fortune per unit and Apple could easily assemble it here.
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Except that isn't true given Apple keeps making record profit.
So all companies must behave like either a charity or a pharmaceutical manufacturer. If not one, then it must be the other?
Have you gotten to know our President? I sincerely doubt that would ever come to fruition. Aside from that, you'd have trouble keeping costs low even in Mexico. If Ford wanted to, they'd assemble cars in India, and not Mexico. Far cheaper in India.
I recall reading an article that the original Macs from the 80's were assembled on an assembly line powered by Macs. That was before the enormous shift to mass production of products in China.
I don't know why Apple can't build an automated factory in North America, heck even in Canada, which is beneficial to US companies based on the currency exchange rate. The movie industry knows that!
I don't know why Apple can't build an automated factory in North America, heck even in Canada, which is beneficial to US companies based on the currency exchange rate. The movie industry knows that!
Source? Breakdown of components?
Processor: TSMC
Battery: Samsung or other Korean company. Maybe Chinese.
RAM: Taiwanese
Storage: Korean or Taiwanese
Camera: Sony and Omnivision, the latter is American.
Glass: USA
Sensitivity instruments: European
Telecommunication: USA... Designed by Qualcomm, manufactured in Taiwann; Qualcomm is fabless.
The list goes on.
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You mean their vehicles? MBZ and BMW have plants in the US because the SUV market is greater here in the US. Plus it cuts shipping costs down. Though this is mainly assembly, not full blown manufacturing.
Toyota and Honda began building their high selling cars here because it was cheaper and meant to circumvent trade actions against the Japanese auto industry 30+ years ago in the early 1980s. Nissan and Mazda followed a few years after that.
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While I understand your outrange, I don't think it is justified. Apple is a multinational company. They sell computers world wide and all those profits funnel their way back to the US. Seems to me the US already gets the best part of that deal at the cost of every other country.
I suspect most of these will be custom built. You've disassembled a prebuilt laptop and put it back together again. As have I, but they're not the same thing. The employees need to put together the required parts, validate the computer, install the OS, and make sure it works, reset, ship out. This takes extra time.
I can put together a PC workstation with hard tube water cooling in about 2 hours, maybe three if I'm going slow. This includes CPU and GPU cooling. I still have to test and validate it for a few more hours to make sure everything is solid. You might say "It's the same components. They've gotta work right out of the box." And that's true to an extent. But motherboards, processors, power supplies, etc. may pass initial manufacture validation, but may fail an hour or two into being used. It's not unheard of for non overclocked Intel processors to simply die out of nowhere, especially the last few generations.