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If it is wireless, then I expect it to work without wires. Isn't that common sense? Wireless = no wires. So if as you say this isn't possible, then I expect it not to be sold as "wireless". I have a wireless door bell. Guess what: It has no wires. I've always had my landline phones using wireless phone receivers. Guess what: No wires. And Apple sells me "wireless charging". With wires. WTF?
So WiFi isn’t wireless? Get out of here with that garbage.
 
That's beyond stupid. Seriously. WiFi works without cables. There's no cable from my WiFi router to any devices in my home. This "wireless" charger requires me to attach my phone with two cables to the wall.
What the heck are you talking about????? Two cables??? That statement is what is beyond stupid. Your assertion that this isn’t wireless because there is a wire between the puck and the phone is the exact same as saying that WiFi isn’t wireless because there is a wire between the router and the modem. Oh and don’t forget the wire between the modem and the wall. Oh and don’t forget the wire to the power pole. Oh and don’t forget the wire to the cable company.
 
I just watched the event again and at a little after the 35 minute mark they start talking about the MagSafe in which the presenter says "it senses the magnetic strength and adjusts automatically".
Good catch!
It also has NFC sensor built in. Why? For automation I guess. This doesn’t appear to be only charging.

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Let me get this right, so this magsafe thing is nothing more then any other iphone wireless charge tech but the difference is the iphone 12 have a magnet there?
 
Good catch!
It also has NFC sensor built in. Why? For automation I guess. This doesn’t appear to be only charging.

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The nfc is the device’s nfc antenna. It’s not specifically for MagSafe - it’s used for Apple Pay, etc.
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Let me get this right, so this magsafe thing is nothing more then any other iphone wireless charge tech but the difference is the iphone 12 have a magnet there?
Yes. It has a series of magnets that assure correct alignment and allow accessories to be attached easily to the device.
 
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However to me since the cable seems very short can you really use the phone without unplugging or taking off the magnet - then it isn't still charging. The short cable means it needs to be close to the plug and thus the power source. To me, if you have to unplug or unstick - it doesn't seem much of advantage over plugging the cable into the phone. Be interested to read about actual experiences but doesn't seem that great to me
The cable on the MagSafe charger is 1m long so it's at least as long as a standard iPhone cable. That would be the same length that most people are used to anyway.
 
It‘s like your phone is connected to the electricity all of the time. Only Apple could make “wireless” less wireless and sell it!!

I use the more traditional mini ”grab safe” method where I connect my phone by inserting a cable into a little port. It’s just like MagSafe, only much cheaper, much quicker and much lighter :D
Lol, well we all know wireless charging isn't really wireless.
 
The nfc is the device’s nfc antenna. It’s not specifically for MagSafe - it’s used for Apple Pay, etc.
it’s used to locate at the top edge of the phone for easily use Apple Pay, or at least it did on my X now it’s integrated into MagSafe. I’m sure that is not coincidental.
 
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I wish I understood the point of the standalone MagSafe charging cable. Lightning is a nice tiny little jack, whereas this thing is a giant puck. I’m genuinely interested in hearing from people who prefer this specific cable option to lightning.

I completely understand the rationale for charging mats / docks where you just drop the phone onto them, and Apple has announced one of those that will also charge the Watch, but that’s not what the $39 MagSafe product is.

Please someone who wants this help me understand why you’re going to buy this and use it instead of the Lightning cable they include in the box.

I’m an iPhone X user who’s had a Qi charger for around two years. The charger is on my night stand and I’ll often check something on my phone and then drop it on the charger. In the morning I’ll wake up and check the news etc the drop it back on the charger before I prepare for work.

Personally I always found it annoying having a cable attached to my phone, sometimes I’d forget to plug it in at night or the cable would fall to the floor despite having all of those cable tidy things. The lightning cable also just looks messy when you charge at your desk so I have a Qi charger there also.

For me having the magnetic charger means no more accidentally knocking it off at night or getting half charges because it wasn’t in just right.

The other benefit for me is that the cables don’t wear out - there’s no movement it just sits there so it pays itself off.

As for the £39 cost. We have a few Qi chargers at home that cost between £25 and £50 when you include the power brick. The cost of the item is what I’d expect tbh considering a basic lightning cable is £19.
 
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i thought the magnet is inside the phone and then you just slap on a case as you always did. and the magnet is strong enough to get through that case

Nobody knows for sure as nobody has the actual phone yet. But in my opinion the magnetic field will be magnified with the phone's presence. Either the phone has stronger magnets or create another magnetic field is yet to be known.

So the case itself will stick by the Magsafe ring and adhere itself to the phone (instead of just clawing through the side frame). Then the Magsafe charger will also stick even stronger once you put on the phone (along with the Magsafe case).
 
I place my phone in front of my wallet in my pocket, I’ve ordered a MagSafe case from apple, will I do any damage to my cards?
 
Good catch!
It also has NFC sensor built in. Why? For automation I guess. This doesn’t appear to be only charging.

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Months ago, some leaked images of the magnet array for MagSafe showed 36 magnets (plus two alignment magnets).

The Apple official photo (showing all the layers which make up MagSafe), shows a magnet array of 18 magnets (plus a gap in the ring and, again, two alignment magnets). Bad leaking? Or change of design?

One diagram suggests the magnets alternate South/North (viewed looking down onto the ring).

I am interested in this detail because I’m considering buying a load of tiny disc magnets (e.g. 2mm x 0.5mm) and using them to make a “compatible” magnet-only ring. Just need sufficient information! How they are arranged. Diameter of ring. Size of each magnet. (Such magnets are something silly like £13 for a thousand. So not bank breaking amount. But would like to choose the most appropriate and not have to re-order bigger/smaller ones.)

It will be November before I get my phone. If anyone has helpful information, please let me know. :)

[ADDED] Have now found Apple's documentation and posted in a separate thread in the hope it makes it easier for people to find.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/accessory-design-guidelines-for-apple-devices.2261930/
 
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