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What I want to know is how convenient the actual magsafe charger is. I imagine it stays stuck to the phone as you pick it off the night stand, which sounds clunkier than how i want my wireless charger to work.

Yes. The one use case I have for wireless charging is to not have to tug at cables when I take the phone off charging in the morning from my bed side table. Sure, my alarm makes me solve math problems to get me to wake up - that's fine. But heaven help if the wired charging gets tugged at...
 
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My case arrived this weekend - this is next to my iPhone 11 Pro Max case
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Yes. The one use case I have for wireless charging is to not have to tug at cables when I take the phone off charging in the morning from my bed side table. Sure, my alarm makes me solve math problems to get me to wake up - that's fine. But heaven help if the wired charging gets tugged at...

We already have wireless chargers and have been doing this. MagSafe is silly. Especially that charger.

Where’s the MagSafe dock? Car mount? Perhaps it has potential but the negative is you need a butt ugly case. That’s a deal breaker. Second you have to rely on 3rd parties to make anything else for it. Third it’s still very much inferior to usb c to lighting port fast charging.

If you’re ok with slow wireless charging then we already have this.

The only thing most want is a usb c port. Not this nonsense. Some say the future is a port less iphone. That’s beyond dumb. Perhaps Apple could make this version for these dumb users that somehow think a port less iPhone is good.
 
We already have wireless chargers and have been doing this. MagSafe is silly. Especially that charger.

Where’s the MagSafe dock? Car mount? Perhaps it has potential but the negative is you need a butt ugly case. That’s a deal breaker. Second you have to rely on 3rd parties to make anything else for it. Third it’s still very much inferior to usb c to lighting port fast charging.

If you’re ok with slow wireless charging then we already have this.

The only thing most want is a usb c port. Not this nonsense. Some say the future is a port less iphone. That’s beyond dumb. Perhaps Apple could make this version for these dumb users that somehow think a port less iPhone is good.

I have two questions:

1. Why do you think the MagSafe is silly? I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts, there's been a lot of conjecture about this.

2. What's so bad about a portless iPhone; why are users "dumb" for wanting this?
 
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I have cheap Qi chargers all over the house. Acquired slowly after getting XS two years ago. I believe all of them light up to let you know you are charging correctly. I can only think of two instances (in 24 months) that I didn't hit the pad correctly and the phone did not charge at night. So it charged in the morning while getting ready for work, it charged in the car wirelessly and then it charged on a pad at work.

I'm sure it will be another big hit for Apple, but I'm not seeing its benefits yet for myself. Unless you glue or stick the magnetic charger to the surface it lays on, picking up to un-stick your phone just feels like a step backwards.

I'm sure YouTube DIY'ers will be routing out their IKEA nightstands and desks to inset these for clicks and views.
 
I’ve been using QI chargers since the iPhone 5. I have multiple around the house and in each car. Been that way for years now. They all work fine for my iPhone X as well as the wife’s IP7. They all have lights as well to show when things are connected and working. Not sure I see the advantages for this device.
 
is there a single desktop cradle to hold one of these bad boys yet?

Edit: There's a $149 luxury iphone/watch cradle from Belkin but I'm looking for an aluminum or wooden or plastic cradle to simply hold my existing $39 apple magsafe charger...
 
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Protected by the pouch lining, although you Americans really should stop with the magnet strip every other country have been using the chip for the last 10 years and are now paying wireless through rfid, so you're using a 2 generation old technique of paying.

No need to be so smug. Most people in the states pay by chip or rfid.
 
So plugging a cable into your phone is sooooo much effort that you rather spend £39 to attach a magnetic disc to your phone. Which has a fixed length cable attached to it, and then it plugs into the same USB-C port. I still don't know what's "wireless" about having one cable plugged in the wall connecting to a USB-C charger, and one cable connecting the charger to a magnetic disc.

I'm not arguing for or against the MagSafe Charger. With that said, I cannot understand why you are continuously referencing the need for "two (2)" cables when utilizing the MagSafe Charger. You've said it about 3 or 4 times in this thread. There is one (1) cable necessary, which is the MagSafe Charger cable itself, which terminates at a USB-C connection. The USB-C end connects to a USB-C wall charger, which is plugged into the wall. There is one cable needed. Not sure what you are personally envisioning and what kind of set-up you may need yourself, with some strange adapters/extensions, etc. Unless, of course, you are calling a wall charger a cable for some reason, but that wouldn't be an accurate statement. At the end of the day, however, only one (1) cable is "needed".
 
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Sheer genius. This in hind sight appears obvious, but why havent we seen this beofre on other smartphones? Whomever came up with this at Apple deserves a bonus. A Starbucks gift card or something for adding god-knows-how-much money to the Apple ecosystem.

I really hope they get more than a starbucks gift card LOL
 
It makes me a little sad when I think about it; Palm deserved a chance. Then HP bought them, and immediately threw them down a garbage chute. I haven’t bough an HP product in 9 years because of that.

Then eventually they sold webOS to LG, who took a great operating system, one that could have been a legitimate 3rd competitor to iOS and Android, and instead put it into ****ing TVs.

Well, that is all.
Sigh. Yeah, I really miss webOS and the Pre. You pretty much nailed it. UI/UX (software and even hardware to an extent) was way ahead of its time, but it was hampered by hardware failure and, ultimately, lack of developer support. (At the time— 2010-2011– lack of a Netflix app, for example, was a deal breaker.)

I had the original Pre, and later the Pre 3– I somehow managed to snag one even though they were never officially released. Also had the TouchPad, which brought the gesture area to the screen instead of a dedicated hardware area.

I will still occasionally find the way Apple has implemented very similar gestures to be unnatural and inorganic compared to how it worked on webOS. Like webOS somehow accounted for the fact that we’re not robots holding the phone in one hand and using our index finger with the other hand to manipulate it.

So, while I was an Apple user otherwise, my first iPhone was an iPhone 4S— which I reluctantly moved to as my second choice after HP flushed Palm down the toilet. You’re right— hardware was so much better on iPhone. But I still miss that UI.
 
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The fact that Qi technology has been around for years but now everyone will be buying tons more stuff from Apple because of the satisfying soft snap of magnets.
Maybe someone will release a stick-on MagSafe ring similar to what is inside the phones? That could allow a MagSafe puck to be used on any phone with Qi charging.

Even more sales...
 
My SUPER boring question: if you choose to go without a case on your shiny, more durable, iPhone 12/Pro, will the MagSafe charger scratch the glass back?

Not speaking from direct experience - but scratching seems unlikely. Even the older Gorilla Glass was hardened enough that your keys couldn't scratch it. Whatever metal they use in the charger likely isn't higher on the Mohls scale than 7...
 
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I have two questions:

1. Why do you think the MagSafe is silly? I'm genuinely interested in your thoughts, there's been a lot of conjecture about this.

2. What's so bad about a portless iPhone; why are users "dumb" for wanting this?

CarPlay works best when it’s plugged in. Wireless CarPlay is a train wreck.

Usb c will always be vastly superior for charging.

The list goes on. But you think that eliminating the port is great? Why? How about you answer questions.

Have you seen the MagSafe charger? It’s huge. You want to use your phone with this on?! Even taking it traveling will stink. The system requires cases. Many don’t use cases. The wallet add on is the dumbest thing ever. Want to lose your credit cards? It’ll slide off taking out of pocket. Just read reviews.
 
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CarPlay works best when it’s plugged in. Wireless CarPlay is a train wreck.

Usb c will always be vastly superior for charging.

The list goes on. But you think that eliminating the port is great? Why? How about you answer questions.

Have you seen the MagSafe charger? It’s huge. You want to use your phone with this on?! Even taking it traveling will stink. The system requires cases. Many don’t use cases. The wallet add on is the dumbest thing ever. Want to lose your credit cards? It’ll slide off taking out of pocket. Just read reviews.

For me the MagSafe is perfect for my bedside table - you know when you pick up your phone half asleep and forget to plug it in or can’t find the end of the plug and you give up. Yeah those times.

I didn’t say a port-less phone was “great” I just asked what’s wrong with it and why users who want it are “dumb”. You must have very strong views about it if you think people who want it are basically stupid. I don’t see an issue with a port-less iPhone but we’d need to have all day battery life first like the Apple Watch in my opinion.

Wireless car play works fine in my car so your mileage may literally vary.

You don’t need a case to MagSafe and you don’t have to buy the wallet. In fact you don’t have to buy the MagSafe at all. If it turns out to be the new future I’m pretty sure they’ll be a few generations before this becomes the norm.
 
No need to be so smug. Most people in the states pay by chip or rfid.

That sounded like nonsense to me so I did a quick check.
US POP is about 330M
In March 2020 31 million Americans paid with a Visa contactless card or digital wallet.
So not even 10%.
 
That sounded like nonsense to me so I did a quick check.
US POP is about 330M
In March 2020 31 million Americans paid with a Visa contactless card or digital wallet.
So not even 10%.

I'm not on anyone's side in this argument. However, I do want to point out that your particular response here doesn't necessarily refute his claim, although he may still be wrong, and you may still be correct, and vice versa. I truly have no idea what the real numbers are as I didn't look up the stats.

However, with that said, the numbers that you denoted, and attached to "VISA Contactless Card" and "digital wallet" payments, don't incorporate his claim of "chip and pin" or "chip only" payments. Neither "contactless card" using RFID/NFC nor "digital wallet" payments are categorized as chip-related payments, thus that figure wasn't incorporated in your response. Additionally, you wrote "Visa" specifically. This in fact, as you wrote it, excludes other entities such as Mastercard, etc. that currently utilize contactless payment methods.

Thus, I do believe your response is not accurately representing the correct figures or statistics.
 
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