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Apple's New Music Royalty Proposal Would Make Streaming Costlier for Free Services Like Spotify
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I actually agree with you here, in that at the end of the day, nobody owes the developer a living. I don't go around blowing money buying random apps I don't use as a form of "charity" for the developer; I buy apps because I feel they might be of use to me.
That said, I draw the line at pirating apps or otherwise finding a way to use a paid app for free, therefore depriving the developer of his much-deserved income. That's actually what I like about the iOS app store. You can't sideload apps or download them from 3rd party app stores (or at least, not easily). So the only way is to buy them the old-fashioned way. It's a win-win scenario. I get the app I want, developers get their cut, and are in turn incentivised to continue creating apps (especially higher-quality paid apps) because they know that people who want one will buy it the honest way.
Because the free app invariably pales in comparison to the paid version. I have students using open office because their laptops came without Office preinstalled, and let's just say that compatibility with our school-issued laptops can be a problem at times.
It's also more challenging to instruct an entire class on using the features of a particular software when different groups of pupils are using different variations of the software, each with its own quirks and differing takes on the same features.
As a teacher, part of my responsibility involves setting exam papers. How do you think it would reflect on me if I used pages or open office for the job, sent it to my boss who uses Office, and told her that the onus was on her to find a way to open the file without screwing up the content?
As is every other company out there. Welcome to the real world.
You're not going to get anywhere. This is a guy who thinks he deserves the work of others because reasons. Logic doesn't work on his kind.
No matter what, music, movie, live concert, as long as those publishers can grab
they can do whatever they want and just run away long before things are going not too well for them. So I agree what you say.
The time where developer charge money for something is gone.
I just don't see the value of one time purchase of an app that I just used for once or twice. No.
I would find free alternative. App developer has all the tools to get revenue somewhere else.
Welcome to the world where freemium is taking over. Freemium is the way to go.
You get gets every kind of app as free alternative. Just look harder.
Not sure what the huge deal over this is.
Artists get paid more, and Spotify wasn't making money on the free tier anyway. If anything, it's unfair for the paid subscribers who are subsidizing the free tiers. Apple is not hurting a competitor when Spotify's business model wasn't working anyway.
Free tiers don't pay the bills. If they dropped the free tier I bet they'd be making profit literally overnight. If anything, its helping Spotify as it will force them to get rid of a bad business model.
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I don't see the big deal when it's Apple's damn App Store. It's not like Apple is preventing Spotify from having it's own website or own marketing promotions that they could do else where. This is like complaining that Apple won't let incase do separate advertising in the Apple Store when its carrying incase products on the shelves.
Artists get paid more, and Spotify wasn't making money on the free tier anyway. If anything, it's unfair for the paid subscribers who are subsidizing the free tiers. Apple is not hurting a competitor when Spotify's business model wasn't working anyway.
Free tiers don't pay the bills. If they dropped the free tier I bet they'd be making profit literally overnight. If anything, its helping Spotify as it will force them to get rid of a bad business model.
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I don't see the big deal when it's Apple's damn App Store. It's not like Apple is preventing Spotify from having it's own website or own marketing promotions that they could do else where. This is like complaining that Apple won't let incase do separate advertising in the Apple Store when its carrying incase products on the shelves.
I'm sure they would if there was another way to get their app on iOS devices. Apple doesn't force developers to use the Mac App Store but with iOS you have no choice.
Can you explain what you mean by double dipping? Apple takes 30% of Spotify's subscription revenue, Spotify is just passing that tax on to the consumer as any company would do. If you sign up via their website you pay the normal rate.
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By double dipping I mean, Spotify chose to use IAP and also their website for subscriptions. That is they want to tell their customers not to pay the 30% extra that Apple takes a cut from every developer - and not pay the in app purchase Spotify themselves tacked on an extra 30% to make their bottom line. Netflix operates at a loss with IAP because they see the value of the customer using Apple's method.
What Spotify was doing "telling customers it's cheaper on their website" is completely against the rules of using IAP alongside with their normal payment method. Like I said, Netflix takes a loss for a subscriber.
What is the value of customer using Apple's method may I ask? Because I don't see any from customer stand point. I would rather sign up from website than give 30% of my money to Apple.
I can honestly say that in all my years on-line, I can't remember anyone who missed the point so completely. Just, wow. You're a miracle. I'm seriously going to use you as a prime-example of a selfish person who lacks any ability to think critically. I mean, I think you believe what you're saying and it's not just willful ignorance.
Seriously, look at the other discussions in this thread. Sure people disagree, and they get a bit testy, but for the most part, it's just disagreements. But with you, you miracle of stupidity, you actually don't even comprehend what the discussion is about.
My advice, attend a logic course. That's free advice.... I know you wouldn't take it any other way.
Freemium is a crap business model.
Oh no, I meant boycott the store and iOS in general. Show those Apple people that you're not going to take it.
Must be nice to live in a world where you don't have to do work that needs a real office solution.
Real office work, you'd expect your work place provide you with a computer with MS installed. My company does that and my company issues laptop to us with MS office.
With personal computer, I use either open office or Kingsoft Office. Both are free.
As for freemium, I take free than pay anyday. And I don't give a f if developer operate at loss
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Thanks. But no. I appreciate your advice, but you can go to your own room and mind your own business.
And no. I did not miss the point. I don't care about the thread about. I was merely reply to someone that I download music. People start acting like freak if moral guards. WTF... One last time, I will continue enjoy my entertainment in free way.
And if Apple trying hard to squeezes out free music streaming, then Apple is anti-competitive greedy crap. And if Apple successful drive free stream service out of business, then I will restore to torrenting.
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So, willful ignorance it is.
And by-the-way, theft of intellectual property is part of my business.
"The law of intellectual property can be seen as analogous to the law of tangible property in that both consist of a bundle of rights conferred upon the property owner. However, the law of intellectual property is separate and distinct from the law of tangible property. Where the right of exclusive possession is at the core of the bundle of rights protecting real and personal property, land and chattels, the same can not be said of intellectual property. The law of intellectual property is commonly understood as providing an incentive to authors and inventors to produce works for the benefit of the public by regulating the public's use of such works in order to ensure that authors and inventors are compensated for their efforts."
As long as Spotify drop free tier streaming I will either switch to others or drop streaming entirely. And I will be the one against streaming all the time, anywhere possible.
Cannot even remember how many times I am forced to watch even blurrier lecture video because internet is slowed down for some reason, as lecture videos are STREAMED.
I don't really care how Apple hurt Spotify but Apple is hurting users using free tier streaming services for sure. Artists would not earn more from that, and only one who can Benefit are those publishers, who deserves zero contribution on content creating. Apple is sort of a publisher, so free tier hurts them.
Someone says business is about to anti-competition. I agree. We need to defeat our enemies after all. That is so simple.
Cannot even remember how many times I am forced to watch even blurrier lecture video because internet is slowed down for some reason, as lecture videos are STREAMED.
I don't really care how Apple hurt Spotify but Apple is hurting users using free tier streaming services for sure. Artists would not earn more from that, and only one who can Benefit are those publishers, who deserves zero contribution on content creating. Apple is sort of a publisher, so free tier hurts them.
Someone says business is about to anti-competition. I agree. We need to defeat our enemies after all. That is so simple.
If businesses can't make money, they won't make those precious free apps that you love so much.
Edit: Also, could you do everyone a favor and turn yourself in to the police? What you're doing is illegal after all.
And pirates like him are why DRM exist, so he makes my life worse.
I don't care if what is your business... As long as you don't act like a moral guard where point finger to people who download music.
I don't care about IP and never will be. And downloading is not theft. I don't care about what you believe.
And, whatever Apple is doing now, people will regret when Apple turns guns to its users. Thinking Apple cares about its user it is like thinking pig can fly.
"I don't care about the rule of law, but don't act all moral about it."
So? There are plenty of sources to get none DRM videos or music. You just need to find them.
Regardless, company will lock its content, so companies can grab more money. They just shift blam to pirates.
You honestly think companies would spend millions on DRM if there weren't criminals like you?
So by using Google Music or Spodify free is leeching? I fuss I will continue leech.
Oh, it is entirely legal in Canada streaming videos, musics and TV show from any website.