Apple's Next External Display: Everything We Know About Key Features and Launch Date

[ponzicoinbro]

27" is too small. Can we please get a bigger one that doesn't cost a fortune?

Most professionals still use 24" Eizo everywhere I have sene because they last a long time and they didn't upgrade them yet.

27" is considered big. 30+ is massive.

If you want big like that with microLED you will pay a handsome amount for at least 5 more years.

 

[Bustycat]

A 5K monitor at 120Hz, 10bit, needs 57 Gbit/s bandwidth. So not enough bandwidth available in a Thunderbolt connection. You can bring it down using DSC, but then you are introducing additional input lag and picture quality degradation, so you might as well not use a 5K resolution.

Pro Display XDR uses DSC already. Is that inferior to you?

 

[Bustycat]

Simply use two Thunderbolt connections, if one connection isn't enough. That's what they did when they built the first 5K iMac in 2014.

One Thunderbolt 4 connection can carry DisplayPort 2.1 at the full speed, and DisplayPort 1.4 can carry 5K 120Hz already with DSC just like Pro Display XDR.

 

[Freida]

I wasn't talking about microLED. That tech is still years away (probably 5-7+)

I had 30" ACD back in 2008 and its not massive. Don't know why professionals have 24" although I have 24" from my work too (VFX) and still think its not enough (even though I have 2 of them).

We already have 27 so my point was to get another size and 30+ is perfect for a lot of people.

Most professionals still use 24" Eizo everywhere I have sene because they last a long time and they didn't upgrade them yet.

27" is considered big. 30+ is massive.

If you want big like that with microLED you will pay a handsome amount for at least 5 more years.

 

[ponzicoinbro]

I wasn't talking about microLED. That tech is still years away (probably 5-7+)

I had 30" ACD back in 2008 and its not massive. Don't know why professionals have 24"

Because the viewing distance is sufficient in most cases. The bigger the monitor the further back you must sit otherwise you will get neck ache. I can't imagine using these ultra wide 20:10 whatever monitors.

 

[smetvid]

Not interested if it isn't XDR. We need something in between 13" iPad, 14"/16" MBP XDR screens and 32" $6,000 Pro displays. Apple has done so much to make HDR a reality for pros that cannot afford a $30,000 HDR grading display and consumers watching HDR content effortlessly. Then they just stopped and did nothing for desktop users who cannot afford a $6,000 display. Just seems odd to me to focus so much energy on HDR laptops and the $1,100 iPad Pro and not help out the middle tier pro user who needs HDR larger than a 16" screen but doesn't need a massive 32" 6k display. We really need 27" or 32" 4k HDR to help keep the cost down. We also need HDMI support for video I/O devices to better fit within our production workflow.

Make a 27" 3840 wide XDR Display and we will be all over that.

 

[Schnegg]

Who exactly do they want to sell these to? Regular users are already struggling with the Studio Display value proposition...

 

[aeternitas]

Unless I can easily hook it up to my Windows laptop (yes, I need support for a PC, it's what I use for work) it'll be a hard pass for me.

I bought the Studio Display a couple of months ago. Tried everything I could come up with and read online to make it work with the PC. There was no way to make it work and eventually had to return it.

 

[zesta]

Having paired an ultra-wide 5K2K with Mac Studio, I could never go back to 16:10 or so formats. The productivity of that extra horizontal space is much better than anticipated.

So if this thread is going to become a wish list: I wish Apple would roll out their own ultrawide monitor.

And, while they are at it, include more than one input so that it can be used with more than one source. In basically killing bootcamp, Apple created a need for traditional bootcamp for some of us, remedied with a Mac-Mini-like separate PC. The monitor I chose has multiple inputs so it is very easy to switch between the two or even share a screen between both Mac and PC at the same time without having to swap cables.

So again, if we are making wishes, how about a solid USB KVM/Hub instead of just a few thunderbolt ports and only 1 input?

I expect neither but one can wish Apple would compete with others already offering BOTH.

How does a 5120x2160 screen give you more space than 5120x2880? Unless you are talking about a physically larger screen, running in low-DPI mode, which doesn't at all sound pleasant to me.

 

[Tagbert]

For the standard one at $1500, I can get a 65" Sony. What a joke.

Because those things are equivalent? This is not a big screen TV for watching upscaled compressed 720p video. This is a computer monitor for viewing interfaces in high resolution. You could tap each pixel with your finger on that 65” beast.

 

[Marx55]

Just make a much, much, much cheaper 27-inch display, like the one in the iMac 27-inch.

 

[lovehateapple]

...that doesn't cost a fortune?

Probably not, this is apple you're talking about, right?

 

[lovehateapple]

I wish Apple would roll out their own ultrawide monitor.

I would also like to see apple release an ultrawide monitor, but I'd be very afraid of the price...

 

[t0rqx]

This product is the first product designed on how to milk the customer in any every way. Every option needs a premium price. This is a big joke. Not even able to integrate a simple quality camera says it all. People wonder why key figures leave the company and the customers are tired of buying recycled products.

 

[lovehateapple]

My Thunderbolt display just died, so I'm in the market for a new monitor. Probably going to buy a used Thunderbolt display for now and maybe pick up a Studio Display next Christmas.

 

[Jason wise]

27" is too small. Can we please get a bigger one that doesn't cost a fortune?

Here we go… this forum is always toxic and complaining

 

[Jason wise]

For the standard one at $1500, I can get a 65" Sony. What a joke.

So toxic. Just need everyone to be happy for once. Why does everyone complain

 

[enc0re]

Bandwidth is not a problem. The Pro Display XDR only had DisplayPort 1.4 three years ago. It’s 2022 going on 2023. DP 2.0 is widely available and can handle 6K120 no problem. You could run it over plain USB.

Apple uses Thunderbolt because they want extra bandwidth for the USB-C ports which they like to stick on the back of monitors, and I appreciate. It’s not to get over resolution/refresh rate hurdles.

 

[Instrumentality]

Would love to see Airplay to the screen from devices not plugged in AND wireless charging for phones, headphones, mice, keyboards, etc.

 

[JamesHolden]

A monitor with an operating system is the nearly the stupidist thing ever, though not as stupid as a digital washing machine. A monitor is an appliance. It should just work.

While I agree, Apple no doubt thinks it's brilliant. Talk about planned obsolescence! Now they can end-of-life it, not provide any software updates, and push customers to buy new monitors.

I'm sure I could look into why this is the way it is, that a simple display device needs to run an operating system millions of times more complex than what it took to land men on the moon, and many reasons would abound, but I will not, because no amount of reasoning can change the fundamental stupid.

There's absolutely no reason a monitor needs an OS other than planned obsolescence. It makes the whole device more complicated, more expensive to fix, and therefore more likely to be replaced when something goes wrong.

Also, if you think your "smart monitor" isn't watching you, you're an idiot.

At this point I assume everything is watching me. The privacy ship sank a long time ago. These days I roll my eyes when companies talk about privacy. There's no such thing in the digital world.

 

[jdb8167]

My Thunderbolt display just died, so I'm in the market for a new monitor. Probably going to buy a used Thunderbolt display for now and maybe pick up a Studio Display next Christmas.

It might not be completely dead. Buy a Thunderbolt 2 cable and plug it into the second TB2 port on the Thunderbolt display and connect it to your computer. The hard-wired connection can get corroded and fail but the second port can still work.

 

[Freida]

How is a desire for bigger screen when we already have 27" a toxic one?

Mr.?

Here we go… this forum is always toxic and complaining

 

[spec-ank]

what will be the realistic apple pricing for this? Actually I was a bit shocked that apple only asked for 1599 for ASD as LG ultrafine is 1299, so I assumed something like 1999 given how notorious apple was. I see many mini LED monitors under 1k that are using AUO panels coming out recently that has ~1000 dimming zones, 4k and over 120hz. So it is likely that the panel price for 5k 120hz mini LED monitor won't be so crazy. If the new one is less than 2k, it would be better for me to cancel ASD and wait for the new one to be released...😓
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[Danfango]

At this point I figure I’m the only person on the planet who likes the studio display 🤷‍♂️

It charges my MacBook, works fine, sounds pretty good, the webcam isn’t that ****, the panel is miles better than any 4k turd on the market, the chassis is better than anything else on the market and, well you can actually get one and service it if you need to.

 

[jdb8167]

I agree.
I'm still using my old and faithful HP LP3065c it's 30" and the resolution is 2560x1600.
Never had a dead pixel or any problems of any kind.
Use it every day all day and the resolution is perfect for reading and seeing images easily.
No pixel peeping necessary.
Just a basic monitor that works.

If you think Apple is going to make a display that is 100 PPI you haven't been paying attention. There is no chance that Apple will do that. And if you already have a display that meets your needs, why do you need another one from Apple?