Apple's Notebook Shipments Grew an Estimated 94% in Q1 2021

Maconplasma said:
I'm not saying that Dell makes bad machines because IMO they don't but they are in fact super boring. Nothing super innovative and no special WOW factor that grabs the consumer's attention.
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I agree--Dell actually does still make ok looking hardware. But once you're done looking at the outside, you still have to deal with Windows on the inside, as well as all the crapware Dell insists on shipping with the machine. The "soul" of the nice looking hardware is still a tangled mess of bad software.

Windows 7 was, in my honest opinion, the last usable version of Windows. It was stable, pleasing to look at, and intuitive. Did it have all the same problems Windows has always had? Yes. But at least it was a nice UI and I only had to completely wipe and reinstall it once a year, which is less frequently than I've had to do it with other Windows versions in order to fix stubborn problems.

I keep having people assure me that Windows 10 is "so much better now", but I disagree. In my experience having to support it, it's still the same mess. It's still layers and layers of old Windows interface the further down you click. Still the same old registry problems, still the same weird crashes and errors, etc. The last thing I'd want to be right now as a business is a PC manufacturer married to Microsoft Windows. It's currently going nowhere (again, just my opinion).
 
There is a big gap between No. 2 and No.3, and another big gap between No.3 and No. 4, the gap between No.4 and No.5 is basically ignorable. So, Apple has ~0% chance to grab a higher rank in the foreseeable future, but could easily drop to a lower rank AT ANY TIME.
 
spiderman0616 said:
I agree--Dell actually does still make ok looking hardware. But once you're done looking at the outside, you still have to deal with Windows on the inside, as well as all the crapware Dell insists on shipping with the machine. The "soul" of the nice looking hardware is still a tangled mess of bad software.

Windows 7 was, in my honest opinion, the last usable version of Windows. It was stable, pleasing to look at, and intuitive. Did it have all the same problems Windows has always had? Yes. But at least it was a nice UI and I only had to completely wipe and reinstall it once a year, which is less frequently than I've had to do it with other Windows versions in order to fix stubborn problems.

I keep having people assure me that Windows 10 is "so much better now", but I disagree. In my experience having to support it, it's still the same mess. It's still layers and layers of old Windows interface the further down you click. Still the same old registry problems, still the same weird crashes and errors, etc. The last thing I'd want to be right now as a business is a PC manufacturer married to Microsoft Windows. It's currently going nowhere (again, just my opinion).
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Can't believe in 2021 people still post this lol.
Win 7 better than 10 lol.

No wonder apple is killing it financially.
 
so the market overall grew by 81%, Apple by 94%, that is good but the whole growth is due to Covid ...
More interesting is that Apple's marketshare grew from 7.8% to 8.4% - that is the real number to look at, that's an increase of 10.7%, that is far more telling
 
Probably a chunk of that is macbook owners that usually hold onto a laptop for 5,6,7…maybe 10 years, have been compelled to replace their 1 or 2 year macbook. I bought a 2020 macbook pro that I planned to keep for quite a while, but maybe not….
 
Typing on my M1 MBP - I used a 2020 Dell XPS 13 9300 (16:10, i7, 16gb RAM, and replaceable 1TB NVME, touchscreen, 4k) for the better part of 2020. It's a fantastic machine. Dell premier service was excellent. Win 10 is ok, not bad. I just prefer macOS and the M1 intrigued me. All this to say PC manufacturers have some really nice machines on offer if Windows works for you. And yes, covid drove massive growth in the market.
 
Wow, seeing those stats is a bit of a reality check. Practially everyone I know uses a MacBook of some kind, so it seems to me like they're ubiquitous... then I look at this chart and realize Lenovo, Dell and HP have like 2-3x the market share.
 
ignatius345 said:
Wow, seeing those stats is a bit of a reality check. Practially everyone I know uses a MacBook of some kind, so it seems to me like they're ubiquitous... then I look at this chart and realize Lenovo, Dell and HP have like 2-3x the market share.
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Most large organizations won't even consider a MacBook. And their replacement cycles are a lot shorter than the consumer group.
 
Nozuka said:
I wish Macbooks had the screen bezels of a Dell XPS... The ones from my M1 Macbook Air look huuuuuuge in comparison.

But other than that, the Air feels perfect.
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Why does it really matter, I mean really? I'm genuinely curious. Why the obsession with bezel thinness? And if you're going to call Apple's bezels huuuuuge (which is a gross exaggeration) then you should check out the Lenovo Thinkpad's bezels.
 
I think it goes to show what a terrible value their old low end chips and gpu’s were. People know the low end is a good deal now. Apple could have put better gpu in their low end. Also i5’s but they never bothered. Will be interesting to see how long it takes them to update them considering their track record before. Not holding my breath.
 
Maconplasma said:
Why does it really matter, I mean really? I'm genuinely curious. Why the obsession with bezel thinness? And if you're going to call Apple's bezels huuuuuge (which is a gross exaggeration) then you should check out the Lenovo Thinkpad's bezels.
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For lack of a better way of putting it, the ultra thin bezels make it like you are looking through a window. It's purely personal preference, but I appreciate it.
 
I'm not sure what some of you are taking away from these numbers? But I'm honestly not that impressed. I remember at least a decade ago when there was talk of Macs finally achieving more than a 10% market share? And here we are today, bragging that they're at 8.4% for Q1 of 2021?

The reality is, Apple has never really got more than about 10% of computer users to buy their machines and that's been consistent for as long as they've produced Macs. Back in the day, Steve Jobs used to try to spin that as a good thing - with the idea that a Mac was a luxury item similar to an exotic sports car or a gourmet meal compared to McDonalds. And that's a perfectly valid argument, except you have to really produce a product that lives up to those claims of being superior.

I think at this point, it's dubious if a Mac is notably superior, vs just a personal preference for those of us who like OS X? I've been a Mac user and you could even say a "fan" since around 2001. But it's hard to get that excited about what they've put out in recent times... That "trash can" Mac Pro sure wasn't such a great value. And the price tag on the current model ensures it's not even an option for the "power user enthusiast" who would otherwise love to have one on their desk at home. These M1 Macs feel like "too little, too late" to me, considering Mac users already had to endure the whole hardware switch to Intel from Motorola and IBM CPUs, and the complete rewrite of software packages that required. Now, a move back to M1 means dual booting into Windows 10 isn't viable anymore, and like usual -- people buying into the tech now will just be funding R&D for future generations of the architecture that are much improved. At least Intel CPUs are pretty "tried and true" at this point. (And the new iMacs feel like a total gimmick. "Hey - let's sell them in a bunch of bright colors to remind people of what we did when the iMac was first released!" Know what? I don't really want to go back to all of that!)
 
And people putting down M1 machines when Apple said they are a majority of Mac sales saying it's because it's the cheapest Mac. Here we go. Comparing apple to apple. Sales of MacBook to sales of MacBook. The increase is spectacular.
 
tongxinshe said:
There is a big gap between No. 2 and No.3, and another big gap between No.3 and No. 4, the gap between No.4 and No.5 is basically ignorable. So, Apple has ~0% chance to grab a higher rank in the foreseeable future, but could easily drop to a lower rank AT ANY TIME.
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So what? This is not a sport, ranking doesn’t matter, they almost doubled the amount of machines sold (the number that actually matters to a business) while probably capturing 70% of the industry profits given their ASP (and to be very profitable with a super streamlined lineup of products as opposed to just profitable with dozenz of models it’s what every business dreams of).
 
HP, Lenovo & Dell basically own the enterprise market. This is the market that replaces devices once the warranties expire, and expect on-site tech support to be able to handle repairs like failed drives or replacing batteries. Apple has nothing for this market.

Im not saying that as a dog at Apple. I’m just pointing out that a decent chunk of the big 3’s sales are in a market Apple doesn’t even try to compete in.
 
I’d love to grab a new machine with Apple Silicone but my job requires Windows only apps so I bought the most recent MacBook Air with an Intel i7, 16 GB of RAM of a 256 GB SSD. I could probably accomplish all my Windows related tasks by connecting to the VPN and using RDP to work in my desktop at the office but if a client calls and I’m working with no Internet I’d be SOL in certain situations. Things happen but man oh man would I love a new Mac with Apple silicon. Hopefully Microsoft nails Windows on ARM x64 and are smart enough to offer retail licenses to users who want to BOD. I’d buy a Mac with Apple Silicone tomorrow if Microsoft does it.
 
I would like to see a SoC Mac mini tower with some expandability. Think it is good that Apple is selling Macbooks with M1 for the mobile crowd. I would like a good desktop with some slots.
 
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