Apple's notebooks are not loaded with peripherals

[darienphoenix]

Sounds like a few people in here are just bitter that Apple has decided to stop marketing to you and started marketing to me. Given their annual reports the last few years, it looks like they made the right decision. So keep on whining, boys.

I love the smell of someone hitting the nail on the head in the morning.

Smells like... obvious.

 

[Tosser]

At this point I kind of want apple to create a computer with ZERO ports just to hear you guys whine, whine away. Like, literally, some sort of tesla-inspired wireless charging, or something.

Sure. That would be great. In 50 years time or more.

I currently have a Macbook Air that does everything *I* need it to (I'm a Sr. Consultant at a Fortune 100 company), and the only times I've ever used the USB ports on my system were to sync up my iPhone, which is completely capable of wireless syncing though Apple hasn't implemented it just yet. Given that I travel all the time, the fact that the chassis is sleek and as thin as possible without having to worry about a parallel port is a value to me as I travel a lot and I probably wouldn't have bought the MBA if it didn't have that.

You want me to congratulate you for not having more needs than connecting your iPhone?

The engineering advances made possible by ditching peripherals that I personally don't care about anymore (such as an optical drive) have allowed them to make a product that does things for me that nobody else does. If you really enjoyed those ports, then I'm sorry, but if the back of a Mac laptop looked like an Alienware M17x I probably wouldn't have bought it.

Again, are we saying that the MBA shouldn't exist? No, you can have your lightweight crippled MacBook and feel fine about it. However, it seems like you, from the get-go, want your lack of needs, to be all that the rest of us can get.
Alienware, huh? Who's talking about alienware?

Sounds like a few people in here are just bitter that Apple has decided to stop marketing to you and started marketing to me. Given their annual reports the last few years, it looks like they made the right decision. So keep on whining, boys.

Yup, as I figured: Instead of having a choice for all us, you're one of the many people that think the lowest common denominator should dictate the rest of us. Sr. consultant, lol.

I wouldn't have gone to the whole job card if Tosser wasn't acting like whatever he does with his laptop is so much more important than what anyone else does.

Oh, ha ha, so that was the reason? I see. So having specific technical needs aren't more important than connecting your iphone, simply because the iphone-connector works in a Fortune 100 company? Are you serious? Do you think that working in big company means you per definition are the one with the most needs, or that noone should have any more needs than you? Man, if that isn't moronic thinking, I don't know what is.

That's all I'm saying, I'm not using it for "only WP and e-mail." Plugging in audio interfaces isn't the only sort of high value use a computer can have. I'm not trying to throw around status.

But that was exactly what you were. You were trying to play the job card, in order to "prove" that your LACK of needs were more important than my factual needs.

Dude well said. We are moving towards a wireless society. I'm sick of all these laptops being filled with all these ports. If you need all those ports get a friggin desktop. The MBA showed the way, that's how laptops will be in the future.

Thank you. Now, will you come work for free for me, carrying a generator, diesel, a Mac Pro, and Cinema Display?

Tosser, seriously, stop using the 'iPod crowd' term. It's completely meaningless.

No it's not. In fact you used it yourself, and you did so quite precisely. You even said something like "people who have to have the latest gadget", using one of the connotations the term has. You can't have it both ways.
The thing is, it covers a certain flok of people quite well. Yourself included.

Oh, and it's "iPhone Crowd"

Besides which, you first castigated me for making a distinction between 'consumer' and 'pro' users, and you're now making the exact same distinction yourself. Hypocrisy is fun, isn't it?

No I didn't. I said that the distinction APPLE makes on THEIR laptop-line-up was arbitrary and ridiculous. I even explained it to you. But once again, you have shown yourself to refuse to understand even the basics and instead go on to make strawman argumentation.

Your entire problem, it seems, is that if you need to buy a new laptop, you need to buy one which can run Mac OS X. You can't buy one of the new aluminium models because of the lack of/apparently useless firewire (the latter problem I still don't quite get, but I'll take your word for it).

Yes. The "useless" firewire is useless because it simply won't work properly with a lot of interfaces and cause problems with a slew of others, not to mention my recorder.

Either buy a previous-gen Macbook Pro/Macbook as a replacement, buy a Whitebook, or buy a HP/Dell/any other manufacturer's laptop, and install OS X on it. Problem solved.

Didn't I explain this to you - like ten times - before?

Better still, find a new interface to use which isn't Firewire. Firewire is on the way out all across the industry, not just on Macbooks.

Oh, this reminds me of the post I made, where I said that I really didn't like when a moron from the iPod Crowd who had no knowledge whatsoever on these matters came in only to suggest that we should go with USB.
Once again, I have explained the problems associated with such a "choice" numerous times. You continuing to suggest something as moronic as that, really does show how little you know on these matters. It is NOT an option, no matter how much your ignorance and lack of needs tells you it ought to be an option.

If none of these options are suitable, and I can see why they might not be, then bad luck, **** happens. Of course, you're still in a minority of users, which is why Apple made the design choice in the first place. the benefits outweighed the negative comments they'd get from hardcore Firewire users.

Ah, that argument never becomes tiring. It's an appeal to popularity (look it up). You see, it would take away absolutely nothing from your iPhone-experience, but without it, I can't do my work, forcing me and others to migrate.

I cannot believe the number of apologists on these boards trying to force their lack of needs (most could propably do with a large screen PDA) on the rest of us, using their ignorance as a lever to lift the agenda "We don't have any particular needs, so noone should want more than us".

I love the smell of someone hitting the nail on the head in the morning.

Smells like... obvious.

Smells like a moronic statement backed up by yet another moronic statement.

 

[darienphoenix]

Blah blah blah

Right, I'm not going to bother anymore. Your entire method of argument revolves around calling other people morons, acting like you're the only person who does professional work on their Macbook, and that your needs are so important Apple should have you consulted you personally during the Macbook design process.

Seriously Tosser, get over yourself, get over the lack of Firewire, and stop whining about something which isn't going to change. The only legitimate complaint you have is regarding the Firewire 800 interface on the new Macbook Pro, something I freely admit to not knowing a thing about.

Your other argument involves whinging that Apple left a port used by a minority of Macbook buyers off their newest revision.

You're the reason the phrase "get over it" was invented, mate.

 

[mcdj]

It just occurred to me why some people may be so up in arms about the "missing" FW in the aluminum MacBooks. I think the answer is...aluminum.

I'll bet that if Apple had nixed FW in the previous white/black MacBooks, while there may have been a few grumbles here and there, older Apple customers would have accepted the computer for what it was...an entry level, plastic Mac that was primarily designed for, and targeted to, the growing legion of iPod owners who had yet to buy a Mac.

Now Apple has shifted the definition of entry level, boosting the construction quality (and price) of the Macbook. The gap has been narrowed between the MacBook line and the Pro line, but the older customer base has been conditioned to think Pro when they see aluminum.

The mistake Apple made was not removing FW in the Aluminum MacBook; it was not removing it from the plastic MacBook.

 

[jsimmons]

Your obviously not an Engineer

Being an Apple Technician there have been many times I've thought why didn't they do this or why couldn't we have this. Yet time after time when fixing machines I find that there is a reason for everything. While I will note your mention of not wanting to dig up the mud obviously this conversation did.

The way I've begun to look at it is; I can complain or learn and attempt to make a difference. Complaining will get you nowhere. So learn, invent, and built something.

I'm just tired of hearing people sit back and rant about what is not but they don't even begin to know what it took or takes to make it what it is. And I'm sorry but a lot of you don't even begin to know how to create something as beautiful and the way most apple machines are designed to run and run well. So don't complain. Get a degree and do something with your life.

 

[dextermorgan]

Personally I bought the MacBook to be a simple, easy to carry computer for class/working on the road. When I am at home I have my powerhouse of a desktop to cover tv tuning, memory card reading, etc. If I wanted a desktop replacement I would have bought a MacBook Pro.

 

[sreehemanth]

peace out!

for all those who are saying that "people are whining about the lack of peripherals"...

i guess they missed actual point that we don't have any better technology to replace these peripherals yet, for the same expense. So talking about wireless technology as someone mentioned... i guess that will take a long while to get it into market and that too... again.. for a good and aggressive pricing.

so... if some person from a fortune 100 company thinks that his MBA has everything he needs and that everyone else's wish for some good and useful gadgets (read peripherals...) in their respective MB's or otherwise is just whining ... then I think it is just ignorance that is prevailing... as these requirements of peripherals may seem to silly, cheap, or useless... but they do add value to the premium price of the product (not being biased on either side of being able either afford the cost or not... )

finally, i did not ever intend to bring any topic such as this to end up seeing people getting too personal in either defending perspectives or offending others'...

peace out! think openly and perceive the difference...