It is going to be closer to an iPad Pro than a Mac. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/apple-arms-stefan-brunner
Filed for future claim chowderIt is going to be closer to an iPad Pro than a Mac. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/apple-arms-stefan-brunner
Too weak for a development machine. 8 GB is barely enough to develop at all.
Good lord people will look for any excuse to whine about nothing. This seems like such vapid criticism.
Something that just keeps getting repeated, like a meem, with no real thought behind it. Just something snarky to say.
Buy a Mac, use it, move on with your life. Who cares what other Macs Apple offers?
What does it matter to any of you how Apple’s marketing and product teams decide to segment their product lineup? They will still keep offering the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, iMac, iMac Pro and Mac Pro,
so what skin it it off if anyone’s back if they re-introduce a tiny, light use MacBook with ARM in order to field test the new architecture without disrupting the current lineup and users who depend on those machines?
Or would you rather have them try out a brand new chip and software rollout on a MacBook Air or Pro, upending the workflow of millions of users and likely inciting a cacophony of complaints and whining that this should have been rolled out more slowly, and on less critical machines?
8 GB is plenty for testing Mac App Store apps (if you want your apps to run for typical customers). Run the Xcode builds and other junk on your "real" Mac.
Its very unfortunate that they continued to use the butterfly design. However, of all the peoplewho I know who bought Butterfly KB macs (~10 or so), none of them have had a problem, including several owners of the 1st gen 2016 MBP. But regardless, its also more expensive to manufacture the butterfly (specialty mfgrs) so it makes sense all around for Apple to use the conventional design. I guess they got lucky. I still hate the way it feels, though. I think if they used the Magic Keyboard, though, it would come too close to the MBA, and at that point Apple may not have an excuse for having only one port, even if they do choose to use Thunderbolt, which I would think would be possible since it uses a discrete controller.Other than the ****** keyboard.
I just lucked out - literally two weeks ago, a week before apple care expired, we brought in our 12” to get the keyboard fixed (space bar completely stopped working, and several other keys intermittently double-press or miss strokes. Already replaced keyboard once a year ago). The lucky part was the Battery also failed their testing, so i got a whole new top case/keyboard and a new battery all for free.
Sadly, while that would mean many more years of use for any of apple’s scissor-keyboard designs, I’m sure that the 12” keyboard will fail again within the next year or so.
Its very unfortunate that they continued to use the butterfly design. However, of all the peoplewho I know who bought Butterfly KB macs (~10 or so), none of them have had a problem, including several owners of the 1st gen 2016 MBP. But regardless, its also more expensive to manufacture the butterfly (specialty mfgrs) so it makes sense all around for Apple to use the conventional design. I guess they got lucky. I still hate the way it feels, though. I think if they used the Magic Keyboard, though, it would come too close to the MBA, and at that point Apple may not have an excuse for having only one port, even if they do choose to use Thunderbolt, which I would think would be possible since it uses a discrete controller.
Has anyone been able to run benchmarks on the T1 or T2 chips? Wondering how it compares to a full-fat A* chip and what it means for the potential of an Intel processor and a full-fat Apple processor in one machine.
Not true. VIA also has the x86 license.
i forgot about Cyrix, which i think is the license that VIA owns. at any rate i was taking the word of my colleague with whom i worked at AMD. i guess he was wrong![]()
When did you work at AMD? I was there 1996-2006/2007.
You work with Dhiraj?much more recently - serious black sheep - seamicro.
You work with Dhiraj?
he was around yeah but at the time focused on trying to find a buyer and didn't spend too much time in the office. it was late in the game.
If they really fix the concept and wait 2 years maybe. But don’t call it butterfly, and have an upgraded version of whatever computer that is available with their standard keyboard at a higher cost. Some people will buy the cheaper model because is cheaper and if there aren’t any problems most people will eventually accept it. Call it butterfly and every piece of bad press gets rerun and all computer sites will talk about is how stupid Apple was to bring it back even if it is fixed.Dear god, no. It was a mistake. It's been fixed. Leave it in the dustbin of electronics history, where it belongs.
Call it whatever you want, but as soon as iFixIt takes it apart and sees a butterfly mechanism the ********* starts over again.If they really fix the concept and wait 2 years maybe. But don’t call it butterfly, and have an upgraded version of whatever computer that is available with their standard keyboard at a higher cost. Some people will buy the cheaper model because is cheaper and if there aren’t any problems most people will eventually accept it. Call it butterfly and every piece of bad press gets rerun and all computer sites will talk about is how stupid Apple was to bring it back even if it is fixed.
Maybe, but I don't think "we have a great transition plan for developers: buy two Macs!" is going to be a popular message.
If you are a developer, you already have one or more suitable development Macs.
What one might be missing is yet another test device for some hypothetical new brand configuration. Many developers already have a shelf and/or box full of regression test devices (multiple A chips, performance levels, and display sizes, multiple iOS and macOS versions, and etc.). If the cost of one more test device is significant, that developer is probably doing far too little testing.
Buying one more test device may not be popular, but it is a sign of competency.
These people would probably just be better off with an iPad Pro.the "low end" of the mac line is most likely used by people to surf the web and do other light tasks for which apple already supplies all the apps
I'm cautiously optimistic about the ARM transition, but concerned Cook will use this as an opportunity to eliminate whatever ports are left (save for a "Smart Connector") in order to drive iCloud subscription revenue. Hopefully Apple won't pursue this path.
The T1 is based on a TI microcontroller, while the T2 is an A10 variant, which means most likely a quad-core (2+2) with a modified GPU (Less 3D and more compute) and of course additional security features. I'm not sure if an upgrade to a T3 is necessary yet.T1 is unclear I'd guess is A5 variant so iPhone 4S performance. T2 is an A8 variant so iPhone 6 performance.
T3 that runs apps could be A12 variant so imagine having an iPad Pro inside your MacBook for catalyst apps on your main screen instead of on the touch bar like they are now.
Nope don’t think they even considered that for one minute.The T1 is based on a TI microcontroller, while the T2 is an A10 variant, which means most likely a quad-core (2+2) with a modified GPU (Less 3D and more compute) and of course additional security features. I'm not sure if an upgrade to a T3 is necessary yet.
On a side note, does anyone here think its possible that Apple would include an atom-based x86 cpu (Celeron or Pentium Silver) to maintain computability, while also crippling performance, to help with and force the transition?
On a side note, does anyone here think its possible that Apple would include an atom-based x86 cpu (Celeron or Pentium Silver) to maintain computability, while also crippling performance, to help with and force the transition?
I've seen Intel refuse to sell parts because they don't like the other parts being used in the product. Intel won't help ease the transition pain here.