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Apple has protected their ecosystem for years to minimize problems for the users.
If they‘d really minimise problems like the one you mentioned („going wonky to require a complete reinstall“), they‘d have focused on making their system secure. By sandboxing and app permissions - not through minute-long cursory reviews of hundreds of thousands of third-party apps.
 
It just means you have to be careful and not install “Super Ultra Cool App We Swear We Won’t Rob You Blind This Time We Promise.”

Most users will stay in the Apple Store, because it’s there. They won’t see much of a reason to leave. Some users will install ******* when it inevitably becomes available. And others will just do whatever they want.

For the record I am in the “some users” category but live in the USA.
 
No one who has an opinion on this subject is going to change their mind. I just find galling the naivete or selfishness of those who say “just don’t download third-party apps.” Now that there will be new pathways for malware to make it to Apple devices, more of said malware will be written. And I guarantee once it’s out there, it’ll find its way around the globe pretty quickly.
I've never had a problem with malware on my Macs, so it's unlikely I'll ever have an issue on my iPhone. Malware can't just magically make its way to a device, you need to click on or open something you're not supposed to. Fact is, I haven't had a virus on my Mac or PC is some twenty years, probably more. I don't click on things I don't know, I don't download or install stuff I don't know, and I don't visit questionable websites. It's not hard. Usually the people falling prey to this stuff are those that are not tech savvy... and for them it's best to stick to the App Store, but I shouldn't have my mobile device crippled because Archie and Agnes continue to do things that the average person wouldn't do.
 
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Once again, the Mac already has third party access to apps direct from developers, in app bundles, etc. It's ALWAYS been this way. Odds are good that most anyone reading this has at least ONE app they've downloaded from a third party and NOT through the Mac App Store. Unlike these app stores he's referencing, this is GLOBAL availability to get Mac apps however anyone wants to get them... from ANY source.

iDevices sync passwords to iCloud which syncs them to Mac Keychain. The same passwords are generally as accessible on the Mac. Can you auto-login to your bank, your credit cards, etc on your Mac? Does it auto-fill passwords to the most secure sites you use? If so, some nefarious software able to access such stuff on iDevices can access such stuff on your Mac. The "organized crime syndicates" would have already harvested such passwords from Macs years ago.

How many long-term Mac owners have suffered financial catastrophes, had "bank accounts drained", lost their home and possessions, had their children taken into slavery, endured locusts/frogs/plague/famine because of evil doings of Mac apps in the 40 years since Mac was born?

Let the "Apple is always right" crowd sing the same chorus but all it takes now is patiently giving it a few months to see if millions of people in the EU are devastated by this new flexiblity. The EU has MORE people than the U.S. So, if the risk is as high as spun over and over and over again, the fire & brimstone destruction should be abundantly obvious very soon.

Another EU law basically "forced" the switch from lightning to USB-C. That was always spun as very negative by Apple and thus chorused by Apple fans as terrible too. That too was not spun as being about the money (proprietary port and licensing revenue). Remember wobbly? Lint-magnet? Broken tongues galore? It's been many months now. Where's the abundance of broken tongues? Where's the abundant USB-C port replacement kiosks springing up like cellular kiosks? I'm STILL finding lint in my pocket. The pre-change spin made it seem like I'd never have to clean the lint filter in the dryer again, but there it is every time... exactly as it was before the USB lint vacuums were installed.

Just like USB-C, this is much ado about nothing in terms of how it will destroy millions of people's lives in the EU. What it will do is undermine a very lucrative stream of easy cash for Apple. And that's the actual reason they are against it. Nobody with complete control of any kind of market wants to facilitate competition. And they always make up very good (sounding) rationale why they should retain complete control of a market they 100% own. Why? Because "We want to 100% retain this easy & very lucrative cash cow" doesn't come off as well.

Again, doubt it??? Just stand by and gloat when millions of EU people are devastated by this change. Then, Apple and Apple fans can spin "I told you so" to no end. It will only take a few months to either witness the rampant destruction or realize it was only another big pile of spin. The risk from this is limited to those places where third party options are possible (so not the U.S.). And even the fans in the EU who believe the spin can opt to just keep getting apps only from the Apple App Store until they see what happens.

My guess is there will be a handful of cases that will seem like big news... just as there are a handful of cases for Mac... just as there are handful of cases of iPhones spontaneously combusting. Otherwise, countless millions are about to enjoy getting the same great apps for less money (robust competition almost always drives prices DOWN) and will have access to stuff that Apple- for whatever reason- has decided people shall not have via their store (such as Epic games). I hope the EU people enjoy their better values and broader selection of apps. As an American myself, I envy your Mac-like freedoms for the iDevices you own.
 
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they‘d have focused on making their system secure
That would be nice, but real world has proven that impossible. Windows has been dealing with security issues for years. There are security issues in MacOS, iPadOS and iPhoneOS. Just look at the patch history. Android is particularly vulnerable as some really nasty apps have been in the App store. Routers have vulnerability issues, home and business.

Security at 100% is just not possible. Opening up another venue for nefarious apps is going to be a problem.

People will blame Apple for problems just as people blame Android and Windows. When in reality it is the app the person loaded, exploiting an unknown security hole, that has now borked their system. Or worse silently steals user data and credentials.

I understand Apple protecting their ecosystem. Apple is not a monopoly. If people don't like Apple, there are alternatives. What Apple was doing was protecting their environment, the user experience of their customers.
 
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One of these risks is the potential for users to download malicious or unsafe apps,
This is the ONLY one ever mentioned by Apple. Sure, when you go outside, there’s always a risk that you get hit by a falling tv, but it doesn’t really help if you only allow one electronics store to sell tvs. It works wonderfully for the electronics store but does fairly little to stop falling tvs.

Now, if you have affordable mental health services, that stops way more tvs from falling 🤕
 
Malware can't just magically make its way to a device, you need to click on or open something you're not supposed to
And in fact, that happens all the time. Particularly home users. Some business users have been infected using the same method. Clicking on a link in an email that supposedly contains "pictures of little Joey at the zoo".
 
The Mac analogy is interesting to me. Obviously if Apple could've had a monopoly on desktop apps and forced everyone to download apps through the Mac App Store, they would have, but it was too late to do that by the time the Mac App Store was introduced. The Mac/personal computer is not as locked down and controlled of an environment as the iPhone or the iPad. Prohibiting "sideloading" on the Mac would've been as unworkable 20 years ago as it is today.
 
Every time Apple execs go through this song & dance about how risky it is to install software outside the App Store, they’re basically saying that the sandboxing built into iOS is garbage and doesn’t work. You can’t have it both ways.

They seem to be counting on their customers being idiots that are "easily confused" by whatever stance Apple takes up at a given time to support their own financial interests.

This company has turned into a generic self interested mega corp with an Apple logo on the door
 
Someone should ask Phil if there are privacy and security concerns when people do stuff in the browser. Someone should ask him privacy and security are such a concern why does Apple’s IAP only apply to digital goods? Why does Apple allow certain digital goods to bypass IAP and be purchased in the browser?

Honestly I’d have more respect for Apple execs if they just said “we built the platform; we have a right to monetize it and this is how we’ve chosen to do it”. Stop with the privacy and security BS.
 
You are not wrong, but from Apple's perspective, not only do they not want to lose control, but when security issues inevitably occur, people will blame Apple for it, so I think they want to minimize that.
So if Phil Schiller had his way would there be no browsers on iOS? Or would they be completely locked down like the App Store?
 
Well anything in life is a risk but if I want to jump out of a plane or install some 3rd party app, that’s my decision to make.

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Honestly his attempts to make it sound worse make it sound better. They’re still notarizing and vetting (which still gives them total control, in the end.) Oh, and oh no, people won’t have to follow our arbitrary rules and jump through our hoops and deal with random rejections and purposeful rejections to protect our business models.
 
The Mac analogy is interesting to me. Obviously if Apple could've had a monopoly on desktop apps and forced everyone to download apps through the Mac App Store, they would have, but it was too late to do that by the time the Mac App Store was introduced. The Mac/personal computer is not as locked down and controlled of an environment as the iPhone or the iPad. Prohibiting "sideloading" on the Mac would've been as unworkable 20 years ago as it is today.
Just like if Apple knew Uber and Lyft were going to be a thing back when IAP was conceived they absolutely would have taken a cut of every Uber/Lyft ride. Think what Apple’s gross margins would be if they were getting 30% of every ride sharing/food delivery transaction.
 
That is fine. Then don't blame Apple when your iPhone or iPad goes wonky and requires a complete reinstall of the OS.

Apple has protected their ecosystem for years to minimize problems for the users. Opening up the system to apps that have not been vetted by Apple is not a good idea. Think about Windows driver problems and user software. Or better yet, look at the problems with nefarious apps in the Android world.

This decision was made by government workers, technological clods, most of whom still have their VCR flashing 12:00.
You’ve never used a Mac have you.
 
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