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Apple's Phil Schiller Explains Why Valve's Steam Link App Was Rejected
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I think you're bending the definition of a monopoly here. In this example with Steam Link, they did not disallow it because it's a threat to their sales. Their store guidelines are pretty strict, and I'm sure Valve was thinking of all sorts of ways to bypass it.
They've made it clear that they get 30% of the sales of any software sold through third party stores. Valve probably did not mention that feature nor has that part integrated. It's probably one of the major reasons Steam Link got disapproved. Keep in mind that the rules get even more vague when it comes to in-game content sales through a 3rd party store. I imagine Apple gets a piece of that as well which would hurt content creators more than Valve.
If Valve was to instead to NOT allow purchases via iOS, only allow purchases via PC, and still got rejected, then this would be an entirely different story.
It's a weird one you have to go out of your way to find. Have you ever encountered that yourself on accident? I'm sure it's more common to see totally broken games on the iOS App Store.
Most of the time, the worst thing I got was games crashing on launch. And that has happened, I have had to get refunds.
I completely agree, yet there are plenty on here that say due to their relatively small market share, they aren’t. I’m with you though.
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True. Good thing lot’s of people have iPhones I guess. For now.
I have to wonder what the person means by saying you can’t control your HomePod with an iPad.
The original post I was replying to mentioned using Apple Music on an Android phone and streaming to a HomePod. Hence the ‘you need an iPhone to use the HomePod’ comment from me.
Because you can’t stream to the HomePod using Bluetooth. Right now there’s no way for an Android to stream to a HomePod.
Source: AndroidAuthority.com
I'm confused by the HomePod. To set it up, you need an iOS device. To use the 'smart' music streaming features, meaning accessing your music via voice control, you need Apple Music. To use it to stream audio from your TV, computer, or any other device, you need an AirPlay (Apple) capable device. And Siri on the HomePod is less capable, less able to pull information from the internet, and unable to recognize individual voices. Oh, and no physical ports, so no wiring your way around any restrictions.
As for the Steam Link issue, I'm glad that there's pressure on Apple to find a solution and it has put a focus on Apple's current status going into WWDC with respect to gaming. Maybe they'll back off on their hatred of Nvidia and allow their customers the choice of what cards to use for eGPUs.
I don’t see how it’s confusing. The HomePod is one more thing for people in the Apple Ecosystem.
Sigh....
The original post I was replying to said you could use an Android phone with a HomePod. No you can’t. Other than that this is a thread about a Steam app being denied by Apple. There have been a lot of threads already about HomePods and there will probably be more, so I don’t think that a post about Steams software app rejection which has nothing whatsoever to do with a HomePod needs an off subject side discussion especially when I’m sure something soon will bring it back to the forefront without high jacking an unrelated article.
To me, this is even a hard sell for those in the Apple ecosystem, like me.
It is (IMHO) too focused on being a great speaker for Apple Music at the expense of other functions and services, even within the Apple ecosystem. Smarts-wise, the HomePod version of Siri is less capable than the one on my Apple Watch. No ordering anything. Limited access to the internet. It's not even a great Apple TV speaker. If I connect my Apple TV to it and then later that day, stream Spotify to the HomePod, they don't automatically reconnect. Again, easily fixed if it had a audio port that I could physically connect to my TV to take advantage of that great internal tech.
I'm confused because I don't see the business signals for the need for such a device. Before Apple entered the market, (again IMHO), music players sucked, computers sucked, phones sucked, tablets sucked, smart watches sucked, BT headphones sucked. But, the smart speaker market? Especially a speaker focused on Apple Music? I'm not seeing it.
Yea I understood what you meant. I honestly wasn't 100% sure you couldn't set up a HomePod without an iPhone.
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I think they will certainly expand on it's capabilities (likely WWDC this year), but it works great for what it is today. I use mine for music and smart home stuff, Siri works really well for both.
unRAID would probably be enough for a home user who does not get so easily overwhelmed.
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This is actually GOOD news, it means they aren't rejecting the app because of a business decision. But rather they are rejecting it on hopefully stuff Valve can fix. I've definitely been looking forward to this as Steam remote play is something I'm very impressed with. I prefer PC games, but don't really like the hunched over a keyboard/mouse thing anymore. What a breath of fresh air it is to connect a controller and play anywhere in the house, including my big screen and sofa. But this requires a PC, if the app becomes a reality then I just need my Apple TV. Although I'm curious how the keyboard/mouse/controller will connect as Bluetooth has severe limitations on distance, will these peripherals connect to the Apple TV?
Anyhow really hope Valve can tweak this and get it out, it can only be a plus for Apple. I mean seriously, Valve is going to compete with the sh...ty junk that Apple sells as games? I know there is some overlap, but overall the games seem to be much different. Unless Apple has plans to distribute major studio games via the app store, I just really doubt any major studio would want to take the 30% hit to their profit. A good solution would be for Valve to charge us maybe $10 or $20 for the app, and then Apple would get some profit from it, I have no doubt it would be a very popular app.
Anyhow really hope Valve can tweak this and get it out, it can only be a plus for Apple. I mean seriously, Valve is going to compete with the sh...ty junk that Apple sells as games? I know there is some overlap, but overall the games seem to be much different. Unless Apple has plans to distribute major studio games via the app store, I just really doubt any major studio would want to take the 30% hit to their profit. A good solution would be for Valve to charge us maybe $10 or $20 for the app, and then Apple would get some profit from it, I have no doubt it would be a very popular app.
Phil the "shill" Schiller can take this and Apple's collective courage and stick it where the sun don't shine.
That’s a weak argument. Basically, you’re saying anyone who got through the door and established a foothold (enough users to make noise if Apple decided to be a bad Apple) years ago now get a pass and anyone late to the party gets screwed. Would you call that fair? I sure as hell wouldn’t and neither would most other rationally thinking people. Let’s see your reaction if Apple ever decided to nix a competing service you frequently used if they felt they could do it now.
When you buy a game on the mac app store, it's mac only. Same game on the steam store is Mac, Windows, and Linux (and usually cheaper). Apple hates that. Now steam link means that single purchase is Mac/Windows/Linux as well as iOS and Android. No wonder Apple will do anything to prevent it.
This is nothing but Apple punishing their own customers so they can make more profit off an inferior product. Sad to say its just more of what Timmy's Apple is all about.
But... But... BUT...! Apples profits are at an all time high, and we have to protect the ecosystem so that they can make even more money! /S
I don't understand why some people are defending this, as if Apple is making a good move by initially denying the steam store, or having the store disabled in the beta. Wonder why EVERYONE else can access the store...hmmmm