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I think their approach will be mainly evolutionary and as a result, revolutionary products will come about.

If you look at Apple's product line, the products all work together in some way or another. That's the drive behind the products. If you look at the iPhone, yes, it was a huge piece of innovation. But it had products that lead up to it being releases. Apple had applied the multi-touch concept to their trackpads and mighty mouse. They had gained experience in this area. They have extensive user interface experience, have plenty of knowledge of music playback and distribution and wrapped a whole load of knowledge into one little package to make the iPhone. The most revolutionary thing about it was the user interface, but even that was a logical evolution of previous concepts and applications.

Technology in 2005 or even 2006 would not have been sufficient to bring about the iPhone, and Apple knew it. I've seen stories discussing the development cycle of the original iPhone and how things finally came together at the right time to be able to put it out.

This is what will happen with Apple in the future but its also why I found the Macbook Air surprising. It takes existing technologies and wraps it in a very nice little package, Apple leveraged their relationship with Intel to get the chip small enough to fit. But its not revolutionary as much as the iPhone is.

Apple wouldn't go ahead and put a full version of OSX on a tablet in the next 6 months, touch-screen only device because their own knowledge in this area is not sufficient (yet) to be able to go ahead and compile such a device. It is possible from a technological stand-point but the UI as an idea is not polished enough. But you can be that Apple is gathering feedback on the iPhone user's experience like hell and figuring out how to make that work in OSX.

If you look at developer builds of Snow Leopard, and some of the improvements recently covered on AppleInsider, you can see that iPhone innovations are coming to OS X and vica versa.

iTunes is another example. Apple had the Mini-Store in iTunes for a couple of years with links that would take you to iTunes. Along came the iPhone, it built on that idea and put in the iTunes Mobile store. For the first time you could buy songs from an interface other than the iTunes store as it exists in iTunes. But now with Genius, they've applied the concept to the desktop version of iTunes and buying a song in the side-bar no longer takes you to the iTunes page. That's something they've learnt how to do (and well) over the last few years.

So its only a matter of time but if Apple feels they can leverage their intellectual property and experience to put out a device, they will.

I would have to say I strongly disagree with the notion that Apple is focusing less on the Mac line because of improvements in other areas. Firstly, they have been hiring as a company, not aggressively but their engineer numbers are increasing. Secondly, improvements on iPhone, Online services (Mobileme), Apple TV and iTunes infrastructure do come back to OS X; design concepts get transposed from the device line to the desktop and laptop line (as I'm sure we'll see on 14th of Oct). All the while, Apple has shown that it can integrate its product line with other areas of their business without too much hassle. Its part of the reason they are gaining marketshare while others are loosing it.

Product line expansion or not, Apple will have learnt from the Mobileme Fiasco and tread carefully. But anything they do bring out will build on what they have at the moment, and more so than some realize right now. Either way, all product lines in the Apple arsenal benefit from innovation anywhere in Apple.
 
I like the "Better, faster, cheaper " mantra used by the author. That should be their theme for 2009. I'd like to see a Apple netbook, but it wouldn't expect it until at least Q2 2009.
 
Originally Posted by TheSpaz
But what about the iPhone? Any news on that? I'm sick of hearing "New MacBooks!!!" I think they should focus more on the iPhone. After-all, Apple is not "Apple Computer" anymore. Oh yeah, and Snow Leopard is going to KICK ASS!

It's the other way around, it has all been about iphone iphone iphone ect...
Mobile Me was there in the first place for the iphone, expanding itunes with the appstore, 3G problems and fixes,........

Please let it finally be about macbooks for a few months!

And indeed Snow Leopard is going to kick ass!

That was my little way of being funny/sarcastic. I know that it's been pretty much 100% iPhone and iPod and 0% Mac. I thought it was a pretty obvious joke.

However, about Snow Leopard... that wasn't a joke... it really is going to kick major buttage!
 
iPhone

iPhone OS: Once stability is finally nailed down, Apple needs to prioritize efficiency and productivity on iPhone.

For one, I have nearly 50 apps now, spread over 6 home screens. We really need a folder/stacks organization system implemented. Additionally there are a number of obvious functions (cut/paste) which are screaming for implementation.
 
i say nay

with the tablet coming out...wouldn't it be possible for it to take the place of my suckyarse dvd player display and the crappy nav system? I mean, I can literally envision a tablet that would fit perfectly on the dash.

I hate how I have to buy one thing and in order to play my stuff I have to get an adapter and compatibility with my own device is an issue...Just get me a tablet I can put in place of my eclipse system!!! Then I'd be happy.

So no, let Apple continue to be innovative, besides, anything related to music and film is the R&D they do anyways isn't it?
 
Better, faster, cheaper:

Pick any two.

You're confusing homonyms.

The "pick 2" concept here only applies if "faster" means development and shipping time.

Clearly, in this context, "faster" means faster hardware processing speed. In that case, you can have all 3. (It's just going to take time to get it to you.)
 
iPhone OS: Once stability is finally nailed down, Apple needs to prioritize efficiency and productivity on iPhone.

For one, I have nearly 50 apps now, spread over 6 home screens. We really need a folder/stacks organization system implemented. Additionally there are a number of obvious functions (cut/paste) which are screaming for implementation.
Don't forget MMS.

I also agree with the "make existing stuff better" philosophy. There really isn't anything wrong with the Macbook, Macbook Pro, or Macbook Air as far as design goes. All three are suited for different needs and are generally well-designed.

Desktops are another story...how 'bout a friggin' minitower already...
 
But what about the iPhone? Any news on that? I'm sick of hearing "New MacBooks!!!" I think they should focus more on the iPhone. After-all, Apple is not "Apple Computer" anymore.

The dude lives up to his name; is this called MACrumors or iPhoneRumors. I am sick to death of iPhone news.... bring on the Macs!

Apple need to update the Macbook Pro mega soon, or all their new customers are going to be dropping from the tree.

I am in the 'Make existing stuff better' camp.
 
This sounds like a better approach. I have felt that Apple has stretched its self too thin. Look, bad iphone 3g until they recently updated it, mobile me was a disaster, push notification delayed.
 
Not a homonym. The word "faster" is only different by implied object, not by inherent meaning.

Faster delivery, faster hardware. Same meaning, different object.

Ok, thanks for the English lesson.

None of that changes my point, though. Someone can "have all 3" things the earlier poster was talking about.
 
pls rls the new macbook, i have been windowz user for a longtime. But now i wanna try mac, tried it at a friend it was great.

Pls rls the newmacbook:cool:
 
The way I see it, Apple's success for the next 12-24 months depends hugely on the iPhone. Macs are solid right now, and if they barely changed at all for the next 18 months, Apple would still be just fine on that front. Moreover, no matter what they do in the computer market, their marketshare is only going to grow gradually.

In the cell phone market, however, Apple has a foothold and they have an opportunity to make a real push. This means taking a gamble. Some companies would play it safe, but I don't think Apple wants to. They need to invest a lot of time and money in the iPhone, making it better and preferably also cheaper. I think it's possible for Apple to secure 10% of the global cell phone market by the end of 2010, and that would mean big things for the company.
 
Apple has done a great job of grabbing a larger share of the market with their latops and desktops. I agree that they may need to consolidate and make sure this isn't a temporary blip in sales.

However Apple and Jobs have also leveraged the continued success of the iPod and now iPhone to bulk up the revenue stream.

Also the mini, macbook air and the iMac line have also worked to keep the Dell's and HP's of the world off balance the last few years. Apple has been able to grow their market share and at the same time avoid as much direct competition.
 
True, the fun is in the anticipation of something new.

But I really feel that Apple should get back to doing what it did better in years past - they put out products that "just work" right out of the gate. I'm seeing too many issues, nowadays, to feel that slogan has the same merit it once did. Good quality control should be higher on the list.
 
Pro Apple Branching Out


Apple should hire a bigger team of developers, branch out, give us a damn Apple Tablet, new MB/MBP's and make things faster, better (stronger?? like the old TV series LOL).

Seriously, also where is the promised push?? stick to making things better and if they want to explore new territories I say simply get more man power.

Quite easy huh.
 
Half agree - as much as I want to see Apple maturing their products and designs (iMac for example), new innovations is what keep me tied to the Keynote Presentations.

However there room for further establishment with certain products - the Apple TV is probably the best example.

Same here. :cool:
 

Apple should hire a bigger team of developers, branch out, give us a damn Apple Tablet, new MB/MBP's and make things faster, better (stronger?? like the old TV series LOL).

Seriously, also where is the promised push?? stick to making things better and if they want to explore new territories I say simply get more man power.

Quite easy huh.

Yeah! With all this extra revenue they've been reporting it should be a cinch for Apple to hire more engineers.

I think that Apple REALLY needs to work on its current Macs. The iPods are good enough for the time being. The Mac Mini needs more power and aesthetic work, the iMac needs a price drop, and the Mac Pro needs a cheaper and less powerful brother; the MacBook needs everything - price drop, aesthetic revisions, more power..., the MacBook Air needs A LOT more power, plus a price drop would be nice, and the MacBook Pro needs a price drop and design refresh.

Basically, Apple should strive for price cuts across the board. The main reason why some people don't switch is because how expensive Macs are. Yes, I know, Macs are higher quality and therefore are worth the extra cost, but try telling that to someone who is obstinate, old-fashioned, and narrow-minded and who never stops bleating that PCs are cheaper, and therefore better. (We all know someone like that, for instance, my father and the IT department at my office.)

The only way Apple will regain the popularity it had before the unfortunate advent of Windows is if they remove this last obstacle - COST!!! :mad: It took me MONTHS to convince my parents to get me an iMac for college because they didn't like the $1,500 price tag and wanted to go for a $300 PC.

(Rant over)
 
Here's my ideal lineup:
-full tower workhorse for hard-core gamers, film makers, etc. (Mac Pro)
-mini-mid tower (new computer)
-all-in-one desktop (iMac)
-pro laptop (MacBook Pro)
-consumer laptop (MacBook)
-combine :apple:TV & Mac Mini
-server (xServe)

w/ the iMac, laptops & Mac Mini, have a BTO option for SSD drives. W/ the laptops, let the displays swivel around and be able to use them as tablets. Add stylus & multitouch support as well so you can use your fingers or a stylus. Whichever you prefer. Also, have all the computers have dual-link DVI (either the full thing like Mac Pros or Macbook Pros) or through a dongle while also upgrading all the laptop/cinema displays to as high a DPI as possible and still inexpensive enough for the average Joe on the street. Plus, add iSights to the cinema displays.
 
More time on existing products? Approved!

Of course, I would approve, being pretty much the official Mac Mini whiner. Myself and Marbles, lol.

MacMini EOL / redesign coming soon...

-Clive
 
stuff...stuff...stuff...

Very good post there.


It is true that apple has reached some kind of apex in the developement now. Not because their own technical inabilities but because there is not that much market genres to exploit at the moment.

They have covered :

general computing = macs
music = itunes
movies =atv and itunes
mobile= iphone
pro arena = logic,final cut


There are not that much viable market genres left to exploit at the moment.
Apple has never been a "creator" in that sense, it has more been a "refiner" of potential marketing possibilities. Now with the snow leopard coming this might just be the perfect time to intregrate the stuff to work properly together and get rid of all legacy stuff. Mental and codewise.

Maybe some small adiditons might be expected in the ways of ultraportable laptop but the next couple of years might be dry in the sense that no new (re or e)volutionary products will be in the pipeline.


Just a better user expreience and aggressive push to the general market.




Obiously,apple have still lot to do in some arenas. Intresting to see if they are going to try to compete at all in the server arena. The pro area in general might be slowly downplayed as the Bigbucks reside in the consumer segment.
They might just try to keep the pro business alive enough that the media/production world still loves their darlings. After all,it is where the apple image got its big startup.

Intresting times we have.
 
You guys bicker too much. :rolleyes:

They need to fix the products on their current lineup or come out with a completely new lineup.

The details and speculation of what those will be are a matter of opinion. The only thing I'm wanting right now is a MacBook or whatever transcends from the MacBook line.
 
They have covered :

general computing = macs
music = itunes
movies =atv and itunes
mobile= iphone
pro arena = logic,final cut


There are not that much viable market genres left to exploit at the moment.
Apple has never been a "creator" in that sense, it has more been a "refiner" of potential marketing possibilities. Now with the snow leopard coming this might just be the perfect time to intregrate the stuff to work properly together and get rid of all legacy stuff. Mental and codewise.

Maybe some small adiditons might be expected in the ways of ultraportable laptop but the next couple of years might be dry in the sense that no new (re or e)volutionary products will be in the pipeline.


Just a better user expreience and aggressive push to the general market.




Obiously,apple have still lot to do in some arenas. Intresting to see if they are going to try to compete at all in the server arena. The pro area in general might be slowly downplayed as the Bigbucks reside in the consumer segment.
They might just try to keep the pro business alive enough that the media/production world still loves their darlings. After all,it is where the apple image got its big startup.

Intresting times we have.


How long do you think they can control all of that? I mean, that is a lot of different projects to keep a hold on. Things get neglected, other's suffer (the mini). The iPhone is still pretty new, as is the Air. They have so many new things, do you think they'll be able to handle it? I know they're a big coorporation, but at what point will the products start to suffer?
 
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