Ironically no one complains that the IT guys are pushing companies to support Google only browsers etc which attempts to lock out safari and other browsers from general web access.
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Apple's Popularity With Gen Z Poses Challenges for Android
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Young people have always found ways to ostracize each other. This isn’t new when I was growing up it was mostly about what designer clothes you wore
Exactly, in the 70's it was skateboards or bikes, in the 80's it was clothing etc.
Let's not pretend this is a new thing that the iPhone has done to society.
Are you upset also because Android users can’t launch FaceTime as well from the ”chat”?
Yea a phone is a single big purchase that might be made every few years with designer clothes it’s constant shopping and trend chasing
I totally agree Apple's strategy is paying off. It's interesting but in my household things have played out a bit differently. I'm an Android user, my wife has an iPhone, both my kids have iPads. I purchased my 10 year old's first laptop this weekend and gave her a choice of macOS or Windows, she didn't hesitate in choosing Windows even after I showed her how her iPad could nicely integrate into her macbook. I think she has seen me operate both Windows and macOS enough where she felt Windows was a better option. It will be interesting to see where her taste goes going into the future.
^^^ THIS!
After all, Mac/Windows/Linux don't play perfectly together, why should mobile platforms? Good enough is good enough.
Yep, people usually prefer an old or second-hand iPhone (say for around 300-400 dls) than a new Android, so even those on a budget tend to stick with Apple.
No I'm not upset personally, but I do feel it's something that should be universal. I get that Apple is a for profit company so it doesn't behoove them to open it up. But at the same time it's a shame that this has to be an issue because of profits.
In my country (Italy) even people with iPhones don't use iMessage between them.
Third party apps (chief among which whatsapp, unfortunately) are dominant and they have become part of the culture; it is literally impossible to not have whatsapp on your phone.
I tried having people shift to signal, but with kinda little success and I can only use iMessage with my sister and brother in law, as most of my friends have android phones, and not even samsungs.
Here in Italy I'd say 75% of smartphones are Chinese brands (either high or low end), and iPhones are pretty rare.
In my extended group of friends (about 20 people) only 3 have an iPhone, myself included.
12 years ago having an iPhone was something truly special and people asked to look at it and play with it, nowadays it's fortunately less "mythical" (I found the excess of admiration for iPhones very cringey), but people still notice when you have a flagship iPhone.
Anyway 15 months later, I'm still very happy with my iPhone 13 and I'll make the switch to a 15 Ultra this September, as I mostly use the phone to take videos with Filmic Pro
Third party apps (chief among which whatsapp, unfortunately) are dominant and they have become part of the culture; it is literally impossible to not have whatsapp on your phone.
I tried having people shift to signal, but with kinda little success and I can only use iMessage with my sister and brother in law, as most of my friends have android phones, and not even samsungs.
Here in Italy I'd say 75% of smartphones are Chinese brands (either high or low end), and iPhones are pretty rare.
In my extended group of friends (about 20 people) only 3 have an iPhone, myself included.
12 years ago having an iPhone was something truly special and people asked to look at it and play with it, nowadays it's fortunately less "mythical" (I found the excess of admiration for iPhones very cringey), but people still notice when you have a flagship iPhone.
Anyway 15 months later, I'm still very happy with my iPhone 13 and I'll make the switch to a 15 Ultra this September, as I mostly use the phone to take videos with Filmic Pro
Gen Z got me beat . I don't have a safe room, beanbag chair, and blaming others for their downfalls in life. lol
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For some reason some people become adults and suddenly forget about what things were like socially in their teens. I remember when kids would comment on each others backpack brand or if your notebook was a real trapper keeper
I’m not even particularly young, but… I hate to say it, I get it. At this point using an Android is like a cultural red flag. iPhone is, for better or worse, the social phone, and if you want to be a social person, you have an iPhone. If you don’t have an iPhone, it indicates that you don’t particularly care to partake in society, it indicates that you are out of touch with the culture. How can you possibly relate? iMessage is the ecosystem’s greatest strength.
There are kids, young adults even, who only ever grew up in this world with the iOS ecosystem being an established thing… I can understand how they might be sketched out by green bubbles, which are equated with text message scammers, SMS marketing and automated bots - they’re usually not coming from actual veritable people you typically want to talk to. Or how those people can’t interact in group chats, or how basic interactivity features aren’t available to them or have backwards workarounds, or when they want you to download 500 other messaging apps as if you’re going to open a separate app and make a separate account to talk to the one person in the group who doesn’t have an iPhone… you can’t effectively send them pictures, you can’t effectively send them videos… you can’t interact with them like you interact with everyone else.
It’s not even a cost or financial status thing. There are low end iPhones, there are older and used iPhones… you can very easily get into the iOS ecosystem with a very competent smartphone for $100-200.
I guess the “old people” equivalent of this is the feeling you get when you talk to someone and they give you a Yahoo or AOL email address. Email addresses are usually free, and for the most part they work the same way but their choice of something that’s very out of vogue can still be offputting.
There are kids, young adults even, who only ever grew up in this world with the iOS ecosystem being an established thing… I can understand how they might be sketched out by green bubbles, which are equated with text message scammers, SMS marketing and automated bots - they’re usually not coming from actual veritable people you typically want to talk to. Or how those people can’t interact in group chats, or how basic interactivity features aren’t available to them or have backwards workarounds, or when they want you to download 500 other messaging apps as if you’re going to open a separate app and make a separate account to talk to the one person in the group who doesn’t have an iPhone… you can’t effectively send them pictures, you can’t effectively send them videos… you can’t interact with them like you interact with everyone else.
It’s not even a cost or financial status thing. There are low end iPhones, there are older and used iPhones… you can very easily get into the iOS ecosystem with a very competent smartphone for $100-200.
I guess the “old people” equivalent of this is the feeling you get when you talk to someone and they give you a Yahoo or AOL email address. Email addresses are usually free, and for the most part they work the same way but their choice of something that’s very out of vogue can still be offputting.
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Well yea, that’s been basic marketing for decades. But it also has to be effective, otherwise everyone would be clamoring for Chromebooks right now seeing as Google is basically giving them away to school systems…
all the tiktok rich kids have iphones so that could be a major driving factor
The problem is a lot of kids don’t enjoy their Chromebooks. I know my job gave Chromebook’s to several of my coworkers when we first started working remote and they each complained about their experience and finally the hospital has swapped them all out with thinkpads.
💯 only outdated people disagree
a $100 used iPhone 6S in 2023 is a lot more respectable than a new Galaxy S23. imagine spending $1000+ and still screwing up the group chats with your ugly green bubble.
Yea, but as others point out this has been going on since Thag and his cave man crew ostracized Ogg for using flint instead of obsidian for his spear tip.
No dilemma - in the end Apple is a for profit company and makes decisions based on maximum profit and margin.
It is interesting how they act as the gateway drug to the ecosystem by being arguably the best smartphone.
As we age our priorities and obligations change, and we adjust spending to match that.
My thoughts exactly - an iPhone (or top of the line phone) buyer is likely to have the money for more expensive toys. I wonder how the percentages play out for Android buyers buying the equivelant phones to teh iPhone.
Two forces at play - as they move into decision making positions their preferences may impact purchase; but will be counterbalanced by cost concerns as they have budgets to meet as well. They may want Macs, but reality dictates cheaper PCs.
Android still rules in Germany (and Europe) in general though: market share is 67,8% Android and 32,2% Apple.
Chromebooks are awful, but at least they are cheap so I can understand why they are a viable choice for schools, but I hate having to help my daughter with her school issued Chromebook. At my practice we have been using Surface Pro's to take daily patient notes, view test studies, billing, etc for years now.
Why do people in the US not use WhatsApp, like everyone in Europe does ( it is more secure, has more features, is easier to use, and works across all platforms)? Or Snapchat if you are a child? So odd.
And what's does "blue bubble" mean? All messages I receive from other iPhone users are grey, same as messages from Android. Its only messages I send to Android that are green, but why would that bother anyone?
And what's does "blue bubble" mean? All messages I receive from other iPhone users are grey, same as messages from Android. Its only messages I send to Android that are green, but why would that bother anyone?
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Well that's funny, because Google had all these kids using Chromebooks in school and where did it get them? What in the world makes you think these kids can't use Windows because they choose to use iPhones?