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I don't care whatever type of business goes under if that depends on privacy invasion. It can be Facebook or the corner cute bunnies and happy cats seller.

So even if small business were being hurt (which they aren't) that just isn't an acceptable excuse. Hiding behind those business is just a bit more of Zuckenberg's sleaziness.
 


Apple's privacy rules are "negatively affecting" Facebook, and its business, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg claimed during its most recent earnings call.

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As a quick refresher, starting with iOS 14.5 and all newer versions of iOS and iPadOS, Apple requires that apps ask for users' permission to track them across other apps and websites. Under the App Tracking Transparency (ATT) framework, the latest change gives users a choice on whether they wish to be tracked for ads or other purposes.

In the weeks leading up to ATT's launch, Facebook was vocal about its displeasure with the change, explicitly framing it as unfavorable for small businesses who use its platform to target customers. When users opt-out of tracking, Facebook and other ad providers have less data for targeted advertisement, possibly, in one example provided by Facebook, making it harder for local businesses to target ads to potential customers nearby.

Continuing on its anti-Apple's privacy rules campaign, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was quick to blame Apple for his company's lower than expected growth in the third quarter of the year. Kicking off the earnings call, Zuckerberg said Apple is "negatively affecting" Facebook but that he believes the company will be able to "navigate" the challenges Apple is presenting thanks to its long-term investments.
While Zuckerberg and the Facebook executive team hold Apple's changes accountable for this quarter's performance, it may also be an asset. Zuckerberg has in the past stated that ATT could ultimately help Facebook, and it's a sentiment he again repeated during the earning's call.

Apple's changes, according to Zuckerberg, are making "e-commerce and customer acquisition less effective on the web." Still, Facebook could benefit from the lessened effectiveness as "solutions that allow businesses to set up shop right inside our apps will become increasingly attractive," Zuckerberg added.

Facebook's chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg, also criticized Apple and its privacy rules, going as far as to claim that the new rules are negatively impacting Facebook while benefiting Apple's own advertising business.
Despite Facebook facing an avalanche of pressure amid leaked internal documents and scrutiny, Sandberg pointed the finger at Apple for Facebook's lackluster performance this quarter. "Overall, if it wasn't for Apple's iOS 14 changes, we would have seen positive quarter-over-quarter revenue growth," Sandberg said.

One document as part of a trove of internal documentation leaked to the press this week indicates that Facebook is increasingly concerned about the youth demographic on its platform. Specifically, Facebook wants to take additional steps to make its platform more attractive to younger users, a portion of the online audience that is increasingly shying away from Facebook, according to leaked company documents.

One area in which Facebook hopes to achieve a more appealing look to younger users is by steering them away from Apple's iMessage platform. Zuckerberg said during the earnings call that iMessage is "growing in popularity," potentially posing a risk to some of Facebook's messaging platforms, such as Messenger.

Apple has time and time again defended App Tracking Transparency, claiming it simply wants to give users a choice on whether to be tracked or not. In a video posted to its YouTube channel following ATT's launch, Apple said that "some apps have trackers embedded in them that are taking more data than they need. Sharing it with third parties, like advertisers and data brokers... This has been happening without your knowledge or permission. Your information is for sale. You have become the product."

Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, has also been vocal about Facebook in the past. At a speech at a privacy conference earlier in the year, Cook implied that platforms such as Facebook lead to polarization and violence. "If a business is built on misleading users, on data exploitation, on choices that are no choices at all, then it does not deserve our praise. It deserves reform," Cook said.

Article Link: Apple's Privacy Rules to Blame for Facebook's Lower Than Expected Quarterly Growth, Says Zuckerberg
As a small business owner, I can tell you from personal experience that Zuckerberg and Facebook couldn't care less about small businesses. They provide ZERO customer support for their ads marketplace, they arbitrarily disapprove ads and ban/block pages of small business ad accounts without any recourse and provide absolutely no support We have been dealing with these issues for 8 months now with no help from FN, the company who like to say they are the champions of a small business when in fact they could care less about us. Hay facebook, if you care shoot me an email to help a small business with real Facebook support then ill gladly change my comment
 
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I will take most out of touch first world comparison ever for $500 Alex.

Yes… just like it. It’s almost like the Great Famine plus the killing fields plus the Holadomar plus Auswitch all in one completely optional website that millions choose to go to each day. In many ways….

What are you going on about? I didn’t make mention to any of those events, you did, so it’s strange you brought them up. You’re free to disagree with my characterization, but do at least try to make some form of logical disagreement. That last part about Facebook being an optional website is perhaps the most ignorant statement I’ve seen. Their data collection on you is not optional. Funny how you didn’t quote the first part of my comment, which is 100% correct.
 
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A few years ago, I quit FB and "deleted" my account (as far as they really delete it that is).

Then I lost track of some family member and some close-ish friends. It was an uphill battle to get them to communicate without it.

Now most of them don't even use email, they just use Messenger...

I just gave up... :-(
Pretty much the same here. I deleted my account almost a year ago. Haven't heard from anyone I used to communicate with (family and friends) since then, even though I shared my email address. Oh well...
 
You must be 15. Let’s be more specific - Facebook is still popular with Gen X (old people in their 40s?) and boomers. It is not as popular with younger generations as other social platforms. Long term that was always going to be a potential problem and why Facebook owns Instagram and WhatsApp. And will probably buy more up and coming social media platforms as they develop.

The Trump supporter comment…that’s just weirdness.
As a Gen X'er, I left/deleted it with 5k so-called "friends" and 150k followers on my monetized artist page. Facebook and Twitter are completely unnecessary for day to day life and does not reflect any kind of actual reality. All SM is pretty much unnecessary. I remember posting that I was deleting my pages, and people were saying, "you know you won't". Challenge accepted. If people need to speak with me, they can text, call me on the phone or send an email. Did the same with Twitter in 2017 (18k followers back then). All of it gone. I personally do not care what my ex GFs are doing, what they're making for dinner or peoples' baby pics.
 
What are you going on about? I didn’t make mention to any of those events, you did, so it’s strange you brought them up. You’re free to disagree with my characterization, but do at least try to make some form of logical disagreement. That last part about Facebook being an optional website is perhaps the most ignorant statement I’ve seen. Their data collection on you is not optional. Funny how you didn’t quote the first part of my comment, which is 100% correct.
I changed my comment because I was too rude. Sorry.

You brought up the slave trade as a comparison for an optional website that lots of people enjoy. I was mocking your comparison by extending it to include other things that are also a million times worse than Facebook and should ALSO not be compared to a free website.

I deleted the first part of your comment because it wasn’t the absurd part … it did sound fine.
 
I wish Apple's decision would have bankrupted Facebook. Also, he's used his opportunity; he can't finger point at Apple after their next quarterly report. At some point, financial analysts don't give a damn about what Apple has done to Facebook; they only care about what Facebook is doing to themselves.
I do have a question. How can he be sure small businesses are hurting because of this? Does any of his data support this? Sure, FB may be sending less cash to small businesses, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t found a way to offset said loss.

You have lost millions of dollars every time your companies services I.e Facebook crash or go offline. ???
Oddly? Doesn’t seem like that was mentioned as a factor. Wasn’t it a particularly bad occurrence this past quarter?
 


Apple's privacy rules are "negatively affecting" Facebook, and its business, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg claimed during its most recent earnings call.

tim-cook-mark-zuckerberg.jpg

As a quick refresher, starting with iOS 14.5 and all newer versions of iOS and iPadOS, Apple requires that apps ask for users' permission to track them across other apps and websites. Under the App Tracking Transparency (ATT) framework, the latest change gives users a choice on whether they wish to be tracked for ads or other purposes.

In the weeks leading up to ATT's launch, Facebook was vocal about its displeasure with the change, explicitly framing it as unfavorable for small businesses who use its platform to target customers. When users opt-out of tracking, Facebook and other ad providers have less data for targeted advertisement, possibly, in one example provided by Facebook, making it harder for local businesses to target ads to potential customers nearby.

Continuing on its anti-Apple's privacy rules campaign, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg was quick to blame Apple for his company's lower than expected growth in the third quarter of the year. Kicking off the earnings call, Zuckerberg said Apple is "negatively affecting" Facebook but that he believes the company will be able to "navigate" the challenges Apple is presenting thanks to its long-term investments.
While Zuckerberg and the Facebook executive team hold Apple's changes accountable for this quarter's performance, it may also be an asset. Zuckerberg has in the past stated that ATT could ultimately help Facebook, and it's a sentiment he again repeated during the earning's call.

Apple's changes, according to Zuckerberg, are making "e-commerce and customer acquisition less effective on the web." Still, Facebook could benefit from the lessened effectiveness as "solutions that allow businesses to set up shop right inside our apps will become increasingly attractive," Zuckerberg added.

Facebook's chief operating officer, Sheryl Sandberg, also criticized Apple and its privacy rules, going as far as to claim that the new rules are negatively impacting Facebook while benefiting Apple's own advertising business.
Despite Facebook facing an avalanche of pressure amid leaked internal documents and scrutiny, Sandberg pointed the finger at Apple for Facebook's lackluster performance this quarter. "Overall, if it wasn't for Apple's iOS 14 changes, we would have seen positive quarter-over-quarter revenue growth," Sandberg said.

One document as part of a trove of internal documentation leaked to the press this week indicates that Facebook is increasingly concerned about the youth demographic on its platform. Specifically, Facebook wants to take additional steps to make its platform more attractive to younger users, a portion of the online audience that is increasingly shying away from Facebook, according to leaked company documents.

One area in which Facebook hopes to achieve a more appealing look to younger users is by steering them away from Apple's iMessage platform. Zuckerberg said during the earnings call that iMessage is "growing in popularity," potentially posing a risk to some of Facebook's messaging platforms, such as Messenger.

Apple has time and time again defended App Tracking Transparency, claiming it simply wants to give users a choice on whether to be tracked or not. In a video posted to its YouTube channel following ATT's launch, Apple said that "some apps have trackers embedded in them that are taking more data than they need. Sharing it with third parties, like advertisers and data brokers... This has been happening without your knowledge or permission. Your information is for sale. You have become the product."

Apple's CEO, Tim Cook, has also been vocal about Facebook in the past. At a speech at a privacy conference earlier in the year, Cook implied that platforms such as Facebook lead to polarization and violence. "If a business is built on misleading users, on data exploitation, on choices that are no choices at all, then it does not deserve our praise. It deserves reform," Cook said.

Article Link: Apple's Privacy Rules to Blame for Facebook's Lower Than Expected Quarterly Growth, Says Zuckerberg

YES!!! I would LOVE for Facebook to tank. It's time something better came along and replaced Facebook. I wish Apple would come out with its own version of Facebook. That would be awesome.
 
I think WhatsApp excels in group messaging. iMessage seems quite weak in that area. iMessage isn’t intuitive when it comes to groups. It’s not easy to spot groups, administer them etc. WhatsApp is kind of built on it.
Problem with iMessage is that it's not cross platform. Until then WhatsApp will continue to dominate.
 
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There isn’t?

Settings -> Privacy -> Apple Advertising -> Personalized Ads

Slide it to off.

Done.

I believe it was even a question asked when setting up new phones after iOS 14.
That only controls Apple's direct advertising to you in places like the app store. skAdNetwork is how Apple is able to tell an ad buyer that you clicked on an ad and works best when you buy ad space using Apples ad network. That means that ad buyers can get around ATT by switching from Facebook ads to Apple ads, i.e. Apple turning you into the product.
 
This is all I needed to see this morning. I was on the fence about whether I really needed a screen cloth and Touch-ID capable keyboard; I may not need them, but I sure want to let Apple know I appreciate what they’re doing here. Ordered!

Edit: ”…And we would have gotten away it if it weren’t for those pesky kids….”
 
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Facebook is not making anyone do anything. It's giving people what they are saying they want. For many people that is cruelty and conspiracy theories.
The problem isn’t so much giving people the kind of content they want, it’s giving people the kind of content they click on. What people click on isn’t necessarily what they want to see, it’s often stuff that makes them angry or fearful and they can’t resist peeking. Then The Algorithm says ‘ah, I see you like rage-bait hot takes from biased sources, you may enjoy these articles…’ and the cycle continues.
 
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Pretty much the same here. I deleted my account almost a year ago. Haven't heard from anyone I used to communicate with (family and friends) since then, even though I shared my email address. Oh well...
Maybe they don’t want to talk to you.
 
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