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Shouldn't there be a monitor for people like you and me though? Why does it have to be all+100 or nothing?

There is, from many vendors...LG, Eizo, Dell, etc. Simply pick one that meets your requirements.

Like laser printers and WiFi routers, Apple is no longer in the commodity display business.
 
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I likes this comment from a similar article on TheVerge:

"If they hadn’t announced this they would have had a CLEANGATE or whatever. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t."
 
I'm a freelance motion designer, so I'd love a pro display but this is overkill for me. If it was the same price as their cinema display, then I would have thought about it but this is silly money. This thing won't sell and Apple will say there's no market for it. Same with the Mac Pro.

I don’t know about your work and I can’t say if a “freelance motion designer” needs a Mac Pro.
But I surely know a motion designer isn’t a market analyst, and Apple has many brilliant market analysts that know how to place a product, so your “this thing won‘t sell” is a baseless statement.

And your avatar says something to me about your bias...
 
What if I let the polishing cloth dry only for 23 hours? I’ll cause serious damage?

Does anyone know where can I find iWater and iSoap;
 
All this bitching about there being no "pro-sumer" options and how "niche" this product is.

Are people trolling? Or have they really completely forgotten that Apple JUST updated the Mac Mini, finally?

You can get a powerhouse Mac Mini with a giant, 27" 5K LG display for less than $3k total, brand new. Which market, exactly, is being omitted?

This here. I've said this a few times to people who're looking to replace the Trashcan but don't have the $7000 (the REAL base config price for the Mac Pro since the 8core chip isn't ideal). The Mini is not a slouch anymore, and properly spec'd the only thing missing is the GPu and that's just a T-Bolt cable away.

Doesn't look as impressive, but are we WORKING or are we showing off our toys?

Well, I tend to do both from time to time.
 
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I thought so, but according to this link it was $4K in August of 1999. I'm sure that is what I am remembering as our office had one... crazy expensive at the time.

https://everymac.com/monitors/apple/studio_cinema/specs/apple_cinema_display.html

I've been writing Mac software since 1987.

Interestingly enough, if you take the 30" Cinema Display introduced in June 2004, that cost $3299 at release. Adjusted for inflation to 2019 that comes out to $4473; not far off of the the $4999 price (minus the stand of course). Considering the vast difference in target market and technology in those two displays, that's pretty consistent pricing. Keep in mind that the 30" was not meant to be a reference display.
 
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watch out! don't get too excited
Apple will offer Cloth S, Cloth Pro and Cloth Pro Max for you to choose from

And maybe with PRO detergent...
 
I don’t know about your work and I can’t say if a “freelance motion designer” needs a Mac Pro.
But I surely know a motion designer isn’t a market analyst, and Apple has many brilliant market analysts that know how to place a product, so your “this thing won‘t sell” is a baseless statement.

And your avatar says something to me about your bias...


Wont' sell is a broad statement...Do you think the last Mac Pro was a success? It sold but in no way sold like the previous generation tower that everyone loved.
 
Wont' sell is a broad statement...Do you think the last Mac Pro was a success? It sold but in no way sold like the previous generation tower that everyone loved.
We don’t know how many they sold.
It was quite different from the previous generations, so I wasn’t expecting the same numbers.
In the same way, today‘s Mac Pro is targeted at an higher level of customers, so we really don’t know how many Apple would like to sell, to consider it a success.

I think that most common configurations will be in the 12-15000$. Surely not a computer for everyone.
 
The fact that 4 years after it's been discontinued Apple's only options are either the extremely high end XDR or LG's fugly 5K duckling, is.. you know.. kinda tone-deaf on their part?

No, it's smart. Apple isn't making something just to make something, they are making something where they can differentiate or offer a significantly superior experience. Just because they CAN put out a lower cost monitor that looks prettier (but is the same as the LG monitor screen wise) doesn't mean they should. Just because you want one doesn't mean it makes sense for them to spend the time, effort and money to make one.

Its not remotely tone deaf.

On the other hand assuming that your individual needs are indicative of the broader set of users and therefore somehow justifies Apple doing something they may have very well studied and decided isn't worth it.

Just because someone doesn't do what you want doesn't mean they aren't listening. It could mean what you want isn't a good idea for them.
 
The issue is apple will use this as an excuse to deny any possible warranty claims.
Post it when it happens versus speculating. Besides, wiping it with something harsh and then making a warranty claim on the finish would be silly.
 
Shouldn't there be a monitor for people like you and me though? Why does it have to be all+100 or nothing?

Because Apple chose to go down that route. They don't have to provide a product for you, me or anyone for that matter. They just chose to release a product for 'pros' with a lot of cash.
 
I don’t know about your work and I can’t say if a “freelance motion designer” needs a Mac Pro.
But I surely know a motion designer isn’t a market analyst, and Apple has many brilliant market analysts that know how to place a product, so your “this thing won‘t sell” is a baseless statement.

And your avatar says something to me about your bias...
Mac Pros have been the industry standard and motion design is a thriving industry, so trust me, I know what I’m talking about
 
Mac Pros have been the industry standard and motion design is a thriving industry, so trust me, I know what I’m talking about
You surely know about your job, but you are not a market analyst.
And coming here with an avatar designed to insult Apple customer doesn’t speak very well about your bias.
 
Because Apple's first screen for professional use since the Cinema Display shouldn't have been an ultra niche curiosity (or at least not JUST that). Shows how out of touch they are.
Apple primarily got criticized for putting 'Pro' behind products that didn't meet quality & innovation targets tech professionals expect & demand. Accordingly, I'm not sure it's out of touch this product existing and Apple finally tasking steps appeasing to such audience w/ the Mac Pro & Pro Display XDR.

The actual target audience of pro devices isn't complaining in masses with many freelancers at worst admit it's overkill for them but wouldn't mind their clients/employers paying for them which is exactly what these products account for with their design & price.

The 'pro' audience Apple is referring to is deliberately vague and has been conflated with a lot of professionals who aren't tech professionals in salary, responsibilities, & tech needs over the years.

There are also professionals in industries that always position these products as halo products for their employers to pay for, but never actually themselves (many small business photographers & developers + all tech writers come to mind).

Overall, the product isn't niche more than it has correctly positioned itself to be readily available for creative professionals checking most of their boxes that need or prefer MacOS (with the notable exception of *MacOS* not supporting Nvidia GPUs & AMD processors and Pro Display user-customizable reference modes coming soon rather than at launch), at price ranges only professionals can comfortably afford. It's well-positioned among the existing line-up of pro monitors offering great impossible-to-copy, hard-to-copy, or will-take-a-while-to-copy features for professionals (the closest competitor, the Asus PA32UCG, will not launch until Q2 2020).

This all makes sense considering the products were revealed at a *pro* conference, not their consumer-oriented events that usually take place in the Fall. It is at those events instead Apple will likely reveal consumer-level products like a low-end but just good enough monitor for average joes (a low-end monitor that would make consumers very happy seems imminent for the Mini Pro alone)
 
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